Holy crap. My game is unbelievable now.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Lol, this thread is a hot mess.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Real game is when you look into her dreamy eyes and say, “f~~~ off”

Peace brothers

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

^ I agree, man. This thread is a whirlwind of craziness. A lot of it is even perpetuated by myself.

So, let me try to start over. This is where I’m at right now – I’ve gained an unprecedented amount of self-confidence since several things have happened:

1. I gained enough life experience through working directly with society to the point where I no longer care about what they think. I have seen the ugliness and stupidity of society with my own eyes, and have felt it as I grew up most of my life being a foolish nice guy.
2. I stumbled upon MGTOW and matched the philosophy with my own experiences. Here, I found a collection of ideas and people with thoughts that echoed my own. This reinforced what I have already seen in point 1.
3. Lots of introspection. Through challenging and refining my own thoughts and beliefs and matching them with the above, I came to the realization that society’s opinion of me, or anyone’s opinion, really doesn’t mean s~~~ to me as a person. However, I am still interested in hearing others opinions, because I want to continue to learn from them and grow.

I posted this thread when I realized that I am no longer a weak, timid poindexter. I am above women. I am no longer a supplicating pansy of a man that I used to be. I got a massive ego trip from this realization, and my post was a manifestation of this ego trip.

For the first time in my life, I have gained power by freeing myself from the psychological shackles of society. So, I want to pursue my ultimate goal in life, which is simple: To enjoy it. F~~~ing beautiful women, to me, sounds like an awesome source of enjoyment. And I now have the power to pursue that enjoyment. This realization is what spurned my original post. But, because I have minimal experience with women, and realize that I am still naive to the psychological games that women play, I fear I will misuse this power, go about it the wrong way, and walk straight into a trap.

My original post was all testosterone and no brains. In fact, it is proof that my biological urges still have power over me. Perhaps I am not nearly as strong as I think, and that also adds to the fear of misusing my power.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[SESQUI ano estParticipant 2535]

Red Knight wrote:

I posted this thread when I realized that I am no longer a weak, timid poindexter. I am above women. I am no longer a supplicating pansy of a man that I used to be. I got a massive ego trip from this realization, and my post was a manifestation of this ego trip.

Your understanding grows young Padawan!It is ok to be confident.
I may be your senior but I think you are moving miles ahead of me in the realm of MGTOW and taking control of your life.
Be careful, know you can stand the heat and jump into the fire. We learn from experience and doing. Just don’t get burned. Fasten your seat belt and do enjoy the ride:)

You are a young man and still need to f~~~ up a bit in life. Just no major f~~~ ups please. Cheers

Everyday above ground is a good one. Everyday above ground while single...better still.

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

Thanks everyone for your input.

I began to think some more about what I was doing here. Going out and actively seeking to pick up women, all in the name of enjoying life and having fun.

Then I began to remember something that I actually posted myself here some time ago. The only difference between f~~~ing and masturbating is that f~~~ing is doing it with a person and are consequently receiving validation from that person. There are fewer greater ego boosts in the world than to have someone you consider desirable f~~~ you.

When I seek to pick these women up, I am seeking validation. The only validation a strong man needs is his own. He doesn’t need the validation of women or society.

So, while I may be strong enough now that I don’t feel like I NEED the validation of women, I’m still very much attracted to the validation and would still enjoy it. If I let this attraction to the validation get the best of me, I will certainly wind up a broken man. I can see it.

And now, for my final realization – pussy/validation is nothing but a f~~~ing DRUG. I realized that what I’m pursuing by losing my virginity is akin to shooting up heroin for the first time. I’m going to feel a high that I’ve never felt before, pleasure that I never knew before. And I will want more of it. My desire for more of it will overcome all of my reason and will lead me to the path of self destruction.

I’m staying virgin. It was hard, but I canceled meeting all those chicks, including that hot sexy 20 year old 9/10 pre-med student. I f~~~ing did it. This is the path to the true strength that I had been searching for.

I realized something today. Pleasure-seeking behavior always leads to pain. Women are no exception. True happiness can only be found when you stop seeking pleasure. The only problem is, I am still a mortal man, and will be wrestling with the urge to seek pleasure all my life.

However, that does not mean I won’t work tirelessly to be the strongest man I can be.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Whatever you decide to do, be careful. They are more cunning than you think. Do not underestimate them. They’re after you because they smell money and success. I suspect you might have hinted about it on Tinder, otherwise you wouldn’t have gotten so many replies from hotties in such a short time. Other members talk about having a much different experience.

My point is, you think you’re in control and playing them. Maybe you do for some. But I bet some of them are trying to outplay you. And they hold more cards than you do. They can smell any tiny amount of insecurity. They smell your desire. And they can do much more damage to you than you can to them.

You are the target in this “game”, not the player.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

^ Yeah, I get it. They might (and probably do) have the mindset that they are going to act like I’m successfully playing them, all the while they are planning how to turn the tables on me and lock me into an arrangement with them.

And you are absolutely right. The only reason these chicks are talking to me is because they know I’m successful. I didn’t even realize it, but my job title showed up in my profile. I’m a decent looking guy (I would say 6 or 7/10), but not hot by any means, so it’s probably not my looks that are getting the women when they could be f~~~ing around with other 8s, 9s, and 10s.

It’s never clear who is the hunter and who is the hunted.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[Heave-Ho MgtowParticipant 1797]

The questions not who’s the hunter, but rather, who’s the prey

skip the cavernous vag and go your own way

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

^ You’re right. Both the man and the woman are hunters. In this case, the man hunts her for the vagina, and then woman hunts to lock him down with it. It’s like a mouse (the man) trying to dodge the trap (women/US legal system) to get the cheese (pussy).

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

Red Knight wrote:

It’s like a mouse (the man) trying to dodge the trap (women/US legal system) to get the cheese (pussy).

Excellent analogy.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

Thanks guys. Even to the ones who I called condescending or seemingly rejected outright, you guys still triggered me to question myself and what I was doing. I needed this, and I thank you.

I am focusing on my health, hobbies, and making my big stack of money even bigger. And maybe one day if I become rich and powerful, perhaps I will strive to become a pivotal force in the movement against feminism.

If there are great causes in this world to fight for…this is one of them.

And now, I’m going to leave this thread with an awesome movie clip…

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[Freedom Not SlaveryParticipant 508]

Ok MoneyOverBitches theres something that you obviously missed and that is that you can have sex but do so with escorts or hookers. If you want to enjoy life you can still get pussy but none of the BS as your paying them to leave, there is no reason not to indulge just be smart and tactical about it and how you go about it.

Your a young guy too and there is ZERO reason to not have fun, when your old, wrinkled, AND can’t get it up anymore is when you give up on getting ass.

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

Why can’t I just give it up now? I don’t need it.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[Admiral CrunchParticipant 776]

MGTOW attitude seems to attract women rather than repel them. Women want what they cannot easily have

Women do not love men. Women only love what men can provide.

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

^ Ironically, it’s true. Women love validation and attention. If you do not give them validation or attention, or maybe you even express disapproval at them, they will fight to get your approval. And this need for approval can be easily manipulated.

BUT, there are also women out there who know that guys know this, and don’t give in so easily. They will play along and bury you when the chance arises. You work your “game” on her, you f~~~ her, next thing you know she’s pregnant and it’s your kid (even when it’s not). Or you f~~~ her and she will begin to relentlessly pursue you to lock your ass down and add unnecessary drama to your life.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[Freedom Not SlaveryParticipant 508]

Red Knight wrote:

Why can’t I just give it up now? I don’t need it.

You don’t NEED to give it up either is the point, there is no harm in having sex with hookers or escorts and as a young guy you shouldn’t just go from “I’m horny as hell and want to f~~~” to “I’m giving up all women” in such a short time.

Make the choice YOU want to make not what the people here tell you, be careful yes but don’t just “roll over and show your belly” cause a bunch of MGTOW said it is best to not even try.

MGTOW is you as a man going your own way whatever that way is as long as your not a woman’s bitch or society’s slave.

[Red KnightParticipant 720]

You guys all challenged me to think for myself and this is what I came up with. I am not doing this because anybody told me to. I am not weak, I do not do things for your approval or anyone else’s. I do things as I see fit, as they make sense to me. I am not afraid to challenge my own beliefs and thoughts. I meditated on it for hours. I don’t need sex, there are obviously other ways to take care of those needs! I MIGHT go the route of escorts and hookers sometime if I feel extremely desperate. But even then, by engaging in sex, even it is with escorts who are a safe source of sex, I am giving power away to the pussy. I’d rather keep my power. That is my way.

Formerly MoneyOverBitches

[narwhalParticipant]

I think the first thing you want to do is remove the word ‘game’ from your vocabulary. It sounds to me what you really want is wisdom. You gain that by listening and observing others as well as your own experiences. It’s alright to make mistakes, we all do, just do what you can to minimize risks. As you’ve said repeatedly, confidence is important, but even the most confident ‘Alpha’ can get screwed over.

There is nothing inherently wrong with sex, nor is there anything wrong with abstinence. In both cases, apply wisdom to the situation. Don’t let your feelings and hormones get in the way of making wise decisions. And don’t get too down on yourself for making a mistake…just minimize risk as much as you can.

Ok. Then do it.

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