High School for a MGTOW

[Anonymous 0]

Relationships are a real interesting thing to observe from an outside perspective, and it’s amazing to see just how much of an effect it has on a guy.

One of my close friends; we’ll call him John, got with the girl of his dreams about a year and a half ago. I know, sounds like horses~~~ from the get go, but they’re both art students, so stay with me here. Thing about John is, he’s f~~~ing massive. This dude would have no problem pummelling another man into the ground (he’s 6’5 and 95kg of muscle), but the nanosecond he copped a feel of his dream girl’s t~~~, he turned to mush, right before my eyes. From that point on, he and her spent the next six months or so ferociously devouring each other’s faces in public or in private; didn’t matter to them. It was f~~~ing disgusting. This hound that I knew was now becoming a pup, and the worst part is, I saw what she was doing a mile away, but I didn’t have the heart to tell him.

Fast forward post summer vacation, this guy has become her bitch. He wakes up an extra hour to ride the train with her. He dresses up his hair and his clothing to satisfy her, but then again, he’s an art student. He spends inordinate amounts of money on her, while she barely reciprocates the same amount.

The dude also began to isolate from the people he once knew, only befriending his three closest friends: Jake, Jeb, and I. And we barely even saw him.

What kills me. KILLS ME. is that the girls of my grade fawn over how he treats her. They say he “treats her right” and that he “treats her like a queen”. And whenever I point out that there is a clear imbalance in the relationship, or that she isn’t a queen and is just an ordinary 17 year old girl, they INSTANTLY hit me with that, “You wouldn’t understand. You don’t have a girlfriend,” or the classic, “That’s why you’re single.” To which I then respond by saying, “That’s not an argument,” but hey, good luck arguing with a brick wall.

Sorry for the rant, just wanted to throw out this example from my experience. I’ll throw a few more when I have the time.

Later

[Anonymous 6]

High school as a MGTOW must be hell due to all the hormones and body changes going on at that time. You want to be to yourself and go your own way, but then sum chick grew huge boobs and now you can’t stop thinking about them.

I remember when i was in the 5th grade this chick came to school from summer break and her t~~~ were huge. She was just showing them off to anybody that would look, she loved the attention. So you definitely have your hands full. Keep your mind focused on something constructive. Play a sport, work out, learn all you can, READ, and you’ll be fine.

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

If you haven’t take economy, try to learn them ahead of time. Two core concepts that get you out of trouble is opportunity cost and supply and demand.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Ridiculous. This is why I don’t miss high school. Home schooling was a godsend for me. I still had my closest male friends, didn’t worry about chicks too much. Relationships were totally odd for me, even when I did have them. Things just didn’t feel right a lot of the time, and I was just pretending to be happy. I remember going to church youth groups and everyone thought there was something wrong with me when I was disgusted with how all of the couples behaved and that I disassociated myself from a lot of them.

[Anonymous 6]

Juehue wrote:

If you haven’t take economy, try to learn them ahead of time. Two core concepts that get you out of trouble is opportunity cost and supply and demand.

Be sure to do this. So many people don’t have the simple financial knowledge to even balance a checkbook. Take finance, and economics. Again, if you need the names of some good business and economic books, send me a message.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

( Young Buck didn’t make an intro, but we’re aware, and he communicated before joining )

Welcome Buck!

Very often the Chad / Jock / “alpha” types are the opposite of what they appear and are thirsty little white knights who become mush in a girl’s presence.

I have a 51 year old friend who instantly changes in female company and literally falls apart around women. All he sees is lips and titties.

Anonymous wrote:

he “treats her like a queen”.

You can REALLY have some fun with that. . . .

He treats her like a Queen?
Or does he behave like one of her little subjects.

Anonymous wrote:

he “treats her like a queen” . . . . . I point out that there is a clear imbalance in the relationship,

Too right. You can point out the imbalance to them –>> only a KING decides who will be “queen”, and if ancient Kings were not pleased with her, it was “off with her head”.

Suddenly women don’t want to be “treated like a queen” anymore.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

“That’s why you’re single.”

I love that one:

“That’s why you’re single!!”

That’s is a woman protecting her s~~~ onto you, because women think “single” means there’s something wrong with them. She just gave herself away. In her head, commitment is more important than individuality. That’s a very common FEMALE value.

“That’s why you’re single!!”

“Is being single a problem for you? that must really SUCK. For a man, it’s the only way to live.”

“You don’t have a girlfriend!!”

“A girlfriend is just some silly chick who thinks an UNMARRIED man should not bang other chicks and pay for everything. What IDIOT would ever sign up for that??”

When women go there with these unbridled shaming attempts, don’t let them get away with it. It’s all transparent garbage.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 14]

Ah, when you are young only the strongest are able to avoid traps like this. I saw so many guys ditch all their male friends and get consumed by a girl who knew she was abusing her power over him. S~~~, my best friend had a girl who would just TOY with him openly like a cruel master with a dog on a choke chain. And he obeyed like a trained dog doing tricks for the kibble all day long… It was f~~~ing pathetic. He got lost for a few months into this black hole named Lisa, and when he came back we gave him s~~~, but over and over again this happened to guys all around us.

Bros before Hoes was certainly coined due to this phenomenon, sadly with little effectiveness for the most part.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Our OP posted:

Relationships are a real interesting thing to observe from an outside perspective, and it’s amazing to see just how much of an effect it has on a guy.

Watching, observing and learning is one of the biggest (maybe the biggest) and most important steps in life. Wonderful to see a young man embracing this vital life skill. One of two factors that where most important in making me MGTOW before there was MGTOW.

This dude would have no problem pummelling another man into the ground (he’s 6’5 and 95kg of muscle), but the nanosecond he copped a feel of his dream girl’s t~~~, he turned to mush, right before my eyes.

You will keep seeing this. There are a lot of “alpha male chest thumpers” who are often the neediest. They are not the only ones, but are the best at hiding it. A lot of them are not as tough or “macho” as they appear at all.

He acts so strong because he really is so weak.

Fast forward post summer vacation, this guy has become her bitch. He wakes up an extra hour to ride the train with her. He dresses up his hair and his clothing to satisfy her, but then again, he’s an art student. He spends inordinate amounts of money on her, while she barely reciprocates the same amount.

The dude also began to isolate from the people he once knew, only befriending his three closest friends: Jake, Jeb, and I. And we barely even saw him.

Classic. You are seeing the parasite take over the host. Odds are he has no clue of what his real SMV is, and even less understanding that it can only go up with time.

Some men never learn that women are like taxis at the airport. Why chase one when there are so many around ?

You are seeing the same weakness she is seeing, and you are seeing her exploit it. You are already far more perceptive than most of your peers, I’ll wager a hefty sum on that.

What kills me. KILLS ME. is that the girls of my grade fawn over how he treats her. They say he “treats her right” and that he “treats her like a queen”.

“He treats her right” translates to “He is easily tamed and trained, like a good dog.” In a real sense he is treating her like a “queen”, because he has become not a “king”, but a “pawn”.

“He treats her right” means he is a good, obedient and pleasant peasant. But, still minds his place, like a good peasant.

And whenever I point out that there is a clear imbalance in the relationship, or that she isn’t a queen and is just an ordinary 17 year old girl, they INSTANTLY hit me with that, “You wouldn’t understand. You don’t have a girlfriend,” or the classic, “That’s why you’re single.” To which I then respond by saying, “That’s not an argument,” but hey, good luck arguing with a brick wall.

Con artists get upset when you figure out how the con works. The last thing they ever want you to do is warn the other marks (“marks” = slang for target of a scam or con).

Oh no, you do understand exactly what is happening before your eyes. That is exactly why they are so upset ! Of course it is imbalanced, he is her resource to use until depleted, not the other way around.

“That’s why you are single” really means “That’s why we can’t use you.”

Because you are not only figuring out the game is rigged, you are on your way to understanding how it is rigged.

Don’t try arguing with them. They don’t want to hear it, and you may attract attention and enemies you don’t want or need. You are far better off being a “good listener” and let them tell you how they really are. Because if you give them enough time, they will.

Stealth can be your friend ! Keep observing and learning. Sure, we can tell you stuff here, but you don’t have to assume me or any other man here is right- you can watch and see the proof yourself !

That is why some of us men here are confident in what we say, we know the facts support us.

Keep observing my sharp eyed friend ! Your “rant” is better use of the art of observation than many men twice your age !

Frank V.

[Anonymous 0]

I study economics and history at a higher level in the IB. I also do English as a higher level, since I’d like to get into Jurisprudence sooner or later, but dear Lord; it’s absolute torture. Half the books we read are feminist and the other half are from Russia or Japan (and are looked at with a feminist perspective). But hey, suffer now to relax later, I guess.

Also, many thanks to the kind words and wisdoms, gentlemen.

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