Hey Everyone!

[AlanParticipant 0]

Hey guys.

 

I’m new here. I’m a 24 year old dude from Eastern Europe. I have been following various manosphere variants (PUA, MRA, MGTOW as well as Herbivore Men phenomenons) for quite some time. I have also read blogs like Roissy/Heartiste, Rational Male, Dalrock, etc as well as watched Sandman videos. In addition, I have read many many various threads from various MGTOW and PUA forums. However, this is the first time I actually register to discussion board.

Like I said, I am from Eastern Europe. I have to admit, women in here are surely not as bad as women in the West (although, in my opinion, they tend to be catching up on most aspects) and the main reason why I have started to consider myself a MGTOW is not because to protest against injustice against men (which, in all actuality, really does exist – not only in the West, where feminist laws and “sexual liberation” have put men in an inferior position; but also in a more traditionalist societies, where men are always the one who is put in danger, always the one who has to “bring home the bacon”, so to speak, and the one whose worth is the result of all “masculine traits” as if this is the only acceptable way for a “real man” to behave and live his life), but because of my unsuccess with women. So, unlike most of you, guys, my MGTOW roots are because of problems in ME and my failures.

So, nice to meet you, guys. 🙂

 

I have a question, however. You see, I, being a 24 year old guy, am almost constantly horny… My levels of testosterone seem to be higher than average (main tell for that is because I am ridiculously hairy). I have read about ways to reduce my sex drive and I have found that using antidepressants of SSRI with sertraline type (most famous example would be Zoloft) could, well, basically destroy my desire for sex. But the thing is – in spite of my fails with women, I am not depressed. So what I want to ask is: have you ever used Zoloft (or any other SSRI type depressants)? What were the effects regarding libido? How “bad” would it be if a person without depression used it? Have you even purchased it without prescription?

I really hope this is successful, because I imagine how awesome it would be completely without any desire and actually be free from influence from female sexuality, which I can’t really benefit from anyway (although I am not a virgin, however).

 

So, yea. Any ideas?

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Hi Alan, all my great grand parents came off the boat from eastern Europe (Ukraine, Poland, Austria, Serbia, Czech, etc.).  Sorry about the encroachment of western values over their, last I heard feminism did not have as strong of a presence there as in the west.

With that being said.

 

I would stay away from the meds, because of the side effects both short and long term can be damaging physically and psychologically.  A lot of school shooters and people I have observed who “lost it” are usually on those meds.

However,  I am 25 so I can relate to exactly what you are going through.  My advice, would be to wean yourself off the company of women as much as possible and place your “sex drive energy” into work or some beneficial hobby.  I haven’t met anyone yet who hasn’t struggle with their sex drive, even into old age, so I have no advice for you there.  Those who say they are in control, but continually talk about women are probably lying.  All I can say is that I am currently in the same scenario.  Good luck.

[SamMGTOWParticipant 95]

Hi Alan. Welcome to MGTOW, glad to see you joined after having lurked for a while in forums concerned about men’s gender roles and what’s expected of them. Yes, not only does modern society, but traditional as well placed extreme emphasis on male disposability. I see that you believe that you reaching out to MGTOW and other men’s forums was as a result of your personal failings. This is very common, though I do not know your personal circumstances. However, I see you mentioned The Rational Male. As I am currently reading the book, I would like to quote from page 10.

“One thing we all struggle to protect is a positive self image. The more important the aspect of your self-image that challenged by the truth, the more likely you are to go into denial. If you have a strong sense of self worth and competence, your self-image can take hits but remain largely intact; if you’re beset by self doubt (a hallmark of self righteous AFC thinking), however any acknowledgement of failure can be devastating and any administration of error painful to the point of being unthinkable. Self justification and denial arise from the dissonance between believing you’re competent, and making a mistake, which clashes with that image. Solution: deny the mistake. Attribute it to an outside element (women won’t play by the rules) rather than resort to introspection (maybe I’m wrong about “the rules”?). Therefore we see AFCs tenaciously cling to a moralistic sense of purpose in their methods which is only reinforced by popular culture in our media, our music, eHarmony, our religion, etc.”

They key is in understanding that before you even decide to play “the dating game”, it is already rigged in the favour of women. They would like “alphas” to f~~~ and “betas” to provide for them. And when a man with more resources comes along, well hypergamy doesn’t care. You can’t criticize this behaviour either because of chivalrous culture.

Just give consideration to the fact that women have abandoned their gender roles, and call you a failure when you do the same. Though like I said, I don’t know your particular circumstances. As for being constantly horny, I think all guys can relate to that. I would be sketchy about meds personally, our culture promotes taking medication for everything.. Not too sure about advice for that, sorry! And again, welcome.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I would stay away from the meds, because of the side effects both short and long term can be damaging physically and psychologically.

I agree for the same reasons. Whatever problems you have with sex drive, they are NOT caused by a lack of drugs in your bloodstream. I say devote your time and energy to various forms of self improvement. The money you save from dating can be spent wisely elsewhere.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[AlanParticipant 0]

Thanks for the welcome, guys!

Yea, after reading some more about SSRI type entidepressants and Zoloft, I have decided to drop the idea. I mean, I am not “depressed” per se – I am successful at my studies, I am going to the gym and I also have some kind of a social life (me, being an INTP personality type person, not much socialization is needed to achieve the optimum) and my best buddy, with whom I can also talk about various interesting issues regarding various topics, including MGTOW as well.

Anyway, again, thanks for the welcome. 🙂

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