Hey, everybody.

[WarloccParticipant 204]

How’s it going?

How long has MGTOW been a thing? I only discovered it last year, but I wish I had found it sooner.

I’m fairly young, 35. Had a bunch of terrible relationships where girlfriends cheated on me, (thankfully I discovered them all and never married).
One with her boss, one with a dude that she actually paraded in front of me while I was at work, one even was married to a guy in the Air Force, and she was using me while he was deployed. Boy did I feel dumb when I found out why I could never meet her “roommate”.
This sort of thing kept happening. I thought it was my fault, that something was wrong with me for years, wondered how I kept screwing up my relationships.

I don’t think I ever really recovered my self esteem or confidence, although sometimes I’m overconfident and I wonder if I’m overcompensating. That’s the leftover beta, I suspect? Not sure.

And then a couple years ago I saw all those articles detailing women rating nearly all the men on dating websites as below average. That’s when I sort of went, “Hey, wait a minute…” And researched more. Found MGTOW and what a game changer.

Before I knew it, I was lurking here. I figure now’s time to upgrade, get forum access, and get involved. So, hello.

[Anonymous 3]

Welcome!! Glad you decided to jump in.
I actually had a woman say to me I was her ” flavor of the month” Got tired of it all awhile back
Went my own way, found this site in May of last year.
A great place
I read a lot of the posts & contribute when I find a spot where I can.
I hope you continue to post.
Again, welcome
Stick with the winners
Stick with MGTOW

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Warlocc wrote:

I don’t think I ever really recovered my self esteem or confidence, although sometimes I’m overconfident and I wonder if I’m overcompensating. That’s the leftover beta, I suspect? Not sure.

Hey man. Thanks for sharing. I’d like to know… How long has the recovery proces been for you? And what are your coping mechanism? I’ve experienced some tough s~~~ myself, and my way of living and getting validation was… through women…
Now that I am about to reinvent myself, and reprogram everything, I am searching for some ways of coping to recover from the damages that those whores have done to me – both mentally and socially speaking (not physically or financially: thank God for no STDs and no pregnancies).

I am left with zero self-esteem and zero self-worth so I can somewhat relate to your story as well.

[ShineParticipant 1696]

Hey Warlocc,

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=MGTOW

This gives you an idea of the growing popularity of MGTOW in modern times.

Alot of us were already going our own way, as we chose to live our lives as singles and didn’t have a club house to plug into the manoshpere.

Japanese herbivour men have been leading the charge for remaining single, and it is catching on in the west. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

The funny thing is I have always been attracted to Japanese women but not western (after unpleasant dealings with exs in my 20’s.) grass greener I guess.

Welcome aboard!

"Society is to blame" Denton

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Your self esteem will return. It just takes time, and to not squander it on the flavor of the month, sexual urges. Women have ALWAYS been this way, but they have never had such freedom and protection to be this level of evil. The longer you do not partake in the filth, the cleaner you will feel. Here is to a brighter future. Welcome to the Jungle.

[WarloccParticipant 204]

Meek Mill wrote:

Warlocc wrote:

I don’t think I ever really recovered my self esteem or confidence, although sometimes I’m overconfident and I wonder if I’m overcompensating. That’s the leftover beta, I suspect? Not sure.

Hey man. Thanks for sharing. I’d like to know… How long has the recovery proces been for you? And what are your coping mechanism? I’ve experienced some tough s~~~ myself, and my way of living and getting validation was… through women…
Now that I am about to reinvent myself, and reprogram everything, I am searching for some ways of coping to recover from the damages that those whores have done to me – both mentally and socially speaking (not physically or financially: thank God for no STDs and no pregnancies).

I am left with zero self-esteem and zero self-worth so I can somewhat relate to your story as well.

Well, it’s been about… Oh, seven or eight years now.

One thing that really helped for me was getting some hobbies and projects, finding things in my own life to be proud of. I fly drones, I get involved in some video game communities with other guys. Another example, my forum avatar here, a picture of my computer. Built by my own hands- really, anything you create with your own hands is a great option. It’s something to be proud of and enjoy.

When you can say “Look what I made. I’m pretty awesome.”, that’s a great feeling.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Warlocc wrote:

Enablr wrote:

Warlocc wrote:

I don’t think I ever really recovered my self esteem or confidence, although sometimes I’m overconfident and I wonder if I’m overcompensating. That’s the leftover beta, I suspect? Not sure.

Hey man. Thanks for sharing. I’d like to know… How long has the recovery proces been for you? And what are your coping mechanism? I’ve experienced some tough s~~~ myself, and my way of living and getting validation was… through women…
Now that I am about to reinvent myself, and reprogram everything, I am searching for some ways of coping to recover from the damages that those whores have done to me – both mentally and socially speaking (not physically or financially: thank God for no STDs and no pregnancies).

I am left with zero self-esteem and zero self-worth so I can somewhat relate to your story as well.

Well, it’s been about… Oh, seven or eight years now.

One thing that really helped for me was getting some hobbies and projects, finding things in my own life to be proud of. I fly drones, I get involved in some video game communities with other guys. Another example, my forum avatar here, a picture of my computer. Built by my own hands- really, anything you create with your own hands is a great option. It’s something to be proud of and enjoy.

When you can say “Look what I made. I’m pretty awesome.”, that’s a great feeling.

It’s a cool approach. I haven’t really considered it and I even build apps. Thanks for the feedback!

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Removed wrote:

Your self esteem will return. It just takes time, and to not squander it on the flavor of the month, sexual urges

But this is the worst man. This is what kicks back in the withdrawal symptoms… This is what opens up for vulnerability and enables setbacks to one’s personal development… How do you deal with these lusts, temptation and urges…?

[WarloccParticipant 204]

Meek Mill wrote:

It’s a cool approach. I haven’t really considered it and I even build apps. Thanks for the feedback!

Welcome.
Be proud of those apps. Show them off, enjoy ’em. Not everybody can do that. I guarantee none of these whores that messed with us can’t do that.

[Anonymous 13]

Welcome to life beyond The Matrix.

It’s safer out here.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Sexual urges fade in time. If you feed it, it gets worse. It is like a drug, because it works like a drug in your body. Your body releases chemicals, and you feed it more chemicals when you feel down, by giving in. The more you give in, the more power it has over you. This is were fetishes and other sick crap comes from. Your sexual urges are based on how you feed it, representing your sensations of good with that behavior.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Warlocc wrote:

Enablr wrote:

It’s a cool approach. I haven’t really considered it and I even build apps. Thanks for the feedback!

Welcome.
Be proud of those apps. Show them off, enjoy ’em. Not everybody can do that. I guarantee none of these whores that messed with us can’t do that.

They definitely can’t. The amount of drama I’ve had due to my work with programmering and designing, was just unbelievable. What made me kick my ex girlfriend out was her quote “if you spend too much time on your computer, then I’ll go to the clubs and get attention somewhere else. I might as well do that since you don’t care about me”… Wtf? Bitch, I am f~~~ing working and this is what pays for the food on the table… This is what lets me keep being hired at my workplace, because in the tech-industry, you always have to be one step ahead of the others, or else you’ll get booted for someone else, who’s actually willing to put the extra hours into advancement of his technical skills… And these guys are hungry for the jobs. They don’t even care about high salaries. So much pressure I’ve been put on because of her. But yeah, she definitely can’t. None of them I’ve dated could. You’re absolutely right. I should be proud of it. Even if the application sucks (being a perfectionist in terms of one’s work is not a good thing at all)…

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Removed wrote:

Sexual urges fade in time. If you feed it, it gets worse. It is like a drug, because it works like a drug in your body. Your body releases chemicals, and you feed it more chemicals when you feel down, by giving in. The more you give in, the more power it has over you. This is were fetishes and other sick crap comes from. Your sexual urges are based on how you feed it, representing your sensations of good with that behavior.

Makes much more sense. While I was going through the withdrawal symptoms, my grandmother described it as if I was a drug addict, who have been using heroine for a long time and suddenly had to go through a ‘cold-turkey’: hyperventilation, throw up, no sleep, fever, suicide thoughts, paranoia, anxiety, no eating, no water, unrest in the body etc… Damn…

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

You can still masturbate, but associate it differently. Your urges, to an extent, are defined by you. I believe one guy said he uses a mirror, because he loves how well he has taken care of himself. Sure, might be a bit of TMI, but it is better than spiraling out of control for someone who will 100 percent take advantage and ruin you.

[WarloccParticipant 204]

Meek Mill wrote:

Warlocc wrote:

Enablr wrote:

It’s a cool approach. I haven’t really considered it and I even build apps. Thanks for the feedback!

Welcome.
Be proud of those apps. Show them off, enjoy ’em. Not everybody can do that. I guarantee none of these whores that messed with us can’t do that.

They definitely can’t. The amount of drama I’ve had due to my work with programmering and designing, was just unbelievable. What made me kick my ex girlfriend out was her quote “if you spend too much time on your computer, then I’ll go to the clubs and get attention somewhere else. I might as well do that since you don’t care about me”… Wtf? Bitch, I am f~~~ing working and this is what pays for the food on the table… This is what lets me keep being hired at my workplace, because in the tech-industry, you always have to be one step ahead of the others, or else you’ll get booted for someone else, who’s willing to put the extra hours into advancement of his technical skills…

Yeah, that’s how they are. Expect us to support their lifestyles, but get upset when we have to spend 50 or 60 hours a week earning that money.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

I’d never use a mirror. It seems to radical for me… I don’t know. It’s okay for me to appreciate the woman’s body it self, after all, I am a man who loves to dominate sexually, but yeah… I just don’t want to pay the price that they require for me to actually enjoy their bodies, you know… Hint: divorce rape, manipulation, anxiety, paranoia, financial fraud, paternity fraud, STD, infidelity and so on… It’s not worth it when you think about it in the bigger perspective, as what the Keymaster, told me on my intro-thread. I am not sure if it is the correct mindset to have, but it’s an honest one at least. I don’t want to continue to pay such a high price for something that will f~~~ me up eventually, whether it is in a mental, financial, physical or social way. Just no.

But to get back to your point. I think a mirror sounds like… A radical, extreme approach…

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Indeed. I could not use a mirror either, but each person has their feel good approach. The important thing is, do not associate the sacrifice as a good feeling. Women are not worth a single time of having sex, and I can speak from experience. If I could trade off all of my sexual interactions for something more productive, or less draining at least, I would. The journey to find it is in yourself. Personally, I find playing guitar better than sex. I have replaced sex with writing and playing music.

[Meek MillParticipant 90]

Thanks for the advice. I’ll work on finding something that can replace the good feeling, but as the state that I am currently in, man…. It’s tough as hell and I would be lying to say that I am not thinking about going back to old habits. You know, hit her up again, reestablish everything despite all that s~~~ I’ve been put through. It’s hard but every day is a win for me. I was never educated in sex, as I went to catholic school, nor was I educated in it during high school, so I had no idea what it really was, nor how dangerous sex and bonding with a woman really can become. I always associated with something sacred, which is probably why my unconsciousness considers it to be like a drug…

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Welcome to the forums, Warlocc!

We will set you free and unc~~~ your life for good.

MGTOW is the passage to freedom for all men willing to see the gynocentric truths in our society.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[joetechParticipant]

Welcome to the forums, Warlocc. By the time you’ve hit your mid thirties your parents have gotten a lot smarter (remember how dumb you used to think they were?) and you’ve figured out quite a bit, including your hair. I remember when I was in my mid twenties in college there was this married girl who wanted to have an affair with me. Since my first wife had cheated on me while I was deployed, and my last girlfriend had been married to a sailor that was deployed, I was exposed to the true cheating nature of women at a relatively early age. These women were going to cheat on their husbands with or without me. So, why feel guilty about it? These women came onto me, not the other way around. So, just remember, your self esteem belongs to you, not them. Women pump and dump all the time (c~~~ carousel?), so why not us, too? Live your life like today is your last day, and forget about impressing the ladies. As the decades roll by you’ll notice these hot little princesses packing on the extra pounds and getting more bitter about it. What are you really missing out on? Not a damned thing.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

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