Heroism and Toxic Femininity :: A new article in the works

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

I’ve been working a another article and wondered if any members have thoughts that could/might help contribute to this article on HERIOSM…..

My BIG question is are MEN the only people who rush in and save other peoples lives, or do you know women who do this also?
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Masculinity to the Rescue
While women’s and gender studies declares that masculinity is responsible for violence the reality is that millions of men are known to demonstrate compassionate behavior and save innumerable people’s lives. These heroic men are not trained to save lives, something inside them snaps and they just do it. Without a concern for his own life a firemen saved a woman and her cat from a burning house. The news is full of incredible acts of male heroism. A police officer saved a man from jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. Two men confronted suicide bombers and saved lives. A sixty one year old Brazilian homeless man, a victim of poverty and social oppression saved a woman’s life, and sacrificed his own. It appears that men are born with some kind of emotional empathy for life that turns them into everyday superheroes. Men do not perform life-saving miracles for no reason other than empathy and love of his community. Masculinity is an incredible gift to our societies.

Women and Heroinism
Women’s fears that keep them immobile and needing safe spaces is the present day evidence that many women generally cry and run away from danger. They use their voice to communicate for help.

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I’m looking for feedback that might help expand this article

[BigDParticipant 3024]

There are countless tales of women saving the lives of others. However, these women are called mothers, and the lives they saved are of their children and husbands. Have to save those who take care of you now financially and those that will take care of you later.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

i know a woman who saved a man’s life. he had a heart attack and she got the defibrillator and saved him. now if you’re talking about saving someone’s life while putting yourself at risk, i don’t know anybody. i know 1 firefighter who may have had to do that but i haven’t spoken to him in a while.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

YES MOTHERS save their children lives. Thank you for that… I will exclude these as acts of heroism because they are saving their own children and self. I will define HEROISM as an act to save a STRANGER, someone you do not know?

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

The defribulator story is good. Thank you….

[Anonymous 0]

I know of no woman who would risk their lives for someone else. You could THEORETICALLY include mothers, but, I have not seen mothers actually do that. Does that mean women wont? No, but from my life experience I have never seen a woman put herself in harms way to protect a man. From observation its always been assumed the man takes the hit so to speak. People will deny at face the “women and children first” but deep down they expect it. I’ve been told by ex female friends that this does not apply to today while watching them selfishly contradict themselves when it came to actual danger let alone picking up the tab on dates. Most Women simply do not admit that they are underhanded, but their actions suggest otherwise. I admire your ability to write. I used to enjoy reading and writing, but then I went during and after college I lost all motivation or enjoyment.

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In fact I’d go as far as saying women benefit most from heroism. Males in any human society are disposable while woman are viewed and treated as in-disposable. This is nothing new of course to us here. We know this and this is partially why we have sought this forums out. Our Validation of the rigged game called life. Men are expected to be valued based on what they can do for others while women are valued for the perception of what they could be.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22531]

Anonymous wrote:

I know of no woman who would risk their lives for someone else.

That is likely due to princess mentality and women taught not to dirty their hands with such dangerous work.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Perfect: WOMEN benifit from heroism.

[Anonymous 0]

The “pendulum” has yet to reach its apex before returning to center. Things for men will continue to degrade. Most Women benefit if not all from the degradation of men’s rights and power. Men are not seen as human beings, but resources. Most of my friends who I’ve tried explaining this to have had mixed reactions. They still project the notion of sacrificing themselves for the better of the whole as a device for self validation, even if the whole does not care or view them as human. They’ve been duped by the whole to give their life for the queen bees. The hive does not stop if a drone dies. We know this here, but many brothers either willfully or naively think and act that this is not so. I have disconnected from these notions or at the very least tried. It is not easy but I am aware of the futility of giving my life up for someone else who may be part of the society which undoubtedly works to my disenfranchisement. The question becomes of course “why?” Why do that? The urge is there but now the brain functions are too. The wool has been peeled back, the rose colored glasses are off now. I am reminded of a law now that you can be held liable I think if you do not help. Society will fine you. It goes without saying that women do and can get lighter sentencing when it comes to law enforcement and punishment. Logically that leads us to a reason to help someone is to not be punished. It avoid conflict by jumping into conflict. The phrase “You’re screwed if you do, and screwed if you don’t” comes to mind. Here it is not only in the mind but an active force looking to bend you to its desires. The only answer I have found for myself is limited human contact.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

The line: The only answer I have found for myself is limited human contact.

I have found that I screen people much more than ever but I have many friends who visit my place almost every day. I am retired so I allow company often…

[RoyDalParticipant]

@tim Patten;

Mothers saving children come to mind, of course. So do stories of highly trained women EMT workers and nurses and doctors.

Pick a woman at random who is not in the above categories? Nope, not a one that I recall.

By the way, my all time favorite scene of a woman working to save a man’s life happened in the movie In Harm’s Way between John Wayne and Patricia Neal. She (a low ranked nurse) orders an Admiral (Wayne) to get out of her light. He does so and jumps to it! A man’s life is more important to him — a real man — than his dignity, rank or privilege.

Edit: It’s been too long since I’ve rewatched In Harm’s Way. I’ve gotta drag out that DVD and pop it into the player soonest.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Mothers saving children come to mind, of course. So do stories of highly trained women EMT workers and nurses and doctors.

Pick a woman at random who is not in the above categories? Nope, not a one that I recal

I think I can make the argument that a MOTHER will save her child and NOT her husband.

[Anonymous 42]

Hi Tim, I can tell you from my own experience that when faced with a dreadful situation a man will ponder strategic actions to change the outcome.

We rapidly compute a way to change the outcome then act on that information and the hopes therein.

The women in this case (a house fire) stood around crying in hysterics as valuable minutes slipped away.

Had myself and another dude arrived only 5 minutes earlier there would not have been a tragedy, just a house fire…

I think women have the “poor princess syndrome”.
For whatever reason, inaction and panic seems to overtake women as they become startled or shocked, genuine fear overtakes them as they become terrified.

I think the feeling of “terror” is more common in women than men.

They remind me of goats when it comes to being overtaken by fear….

[RoyDalParticipant]

Tim Patten wrote:

I think I can make the argument that a MOTHER will save her child and NOT her husband.

Yep, Hollywood movies aside, in real life hubby has fulfilled his biological function. Now, he can just crawl off and die as far as she is concerned.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

The women in this case (a house fire) stood around crying in hysterics as valuable minutes slipped away.

My experience also!

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

uchibenkei wrote:

now if you’re talking about saving someone’s life while putting yourself at risk,

I think uchibenkei makes an important distinction here.

It’s not heroic for someone to see a car accident, then call 911. That’s just good citizenship.

But to crawl in to a crumpled, burning car & pull someone out? Yeah, that’s heroism.

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

It’s not heroic for someone to see a car accident, then call 911. That’s just good citizenship.

But to crawl in to a crumpled, burning car & pull someone out? Yeah, that’s heroism.

LOVE THAT!

[Anonymous 42]

Hey Tim, I also did a shake’n’bake on the interstate as I began to jackknife braking for wreckage where women were walking around on the highway like it was a sidewalk! They didn’t even RUN FOR THERE LIVES when the wall of skidding shifting traffic came down on them, they just stood there like chickens!

If you know anything about chickens, they’re the easiest thing on earth to run over, they just stand there, like women…

[Tim PattenParticipant 660]

Hey Tim, I also did a shake’n’bake on the interstate as I began to jackknife braking for wreckage where women were walking around on the highway like it was a sidewalk! They didn’t even RUN FOR THERE LIVES when the wall of skidding shifting traffic came down on them, they just stood there like chickens!

Good anecdotal infor that enhances the story

[GrumpyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I am reminded of a law now that you can be held liable I think if you do not help. Society will fine you.

^ This is why The Good Samaritan Act had to be put in place to prevent this (in Canada at least, IIRC it is also valid/upheld in the U.S)

Anonymous wrote:

The only answer I have found for myself is limited human contact.

^Exactly, my experience has been that no good deed goes unpunished.

RoyDal wrote:

Mothers saving children come to mind, of course. So do stories of highly trained women EMT workers and nurses and doctors.

^ The “training”(programming)is what stands out IMHO. The level of the training will dictate the level of commitment to provide aid.

Anonymous wrote:

Hi Tim, I can tell you from my own experience that when faced with a dreadful situation a man will ponder strategic actions to change the outcome.
We rapidly compute a way to change the outcome then act on that information and the hopes therein.

MG, this is spot on. This is also why “men of action” are regarded, and expected to react as little more than biological machines.

Just a personal note on the GS act.
My brother in law and I were involved in a little emergency several years ago.
A biker blew himself up checking his fuel tank with a cigarette in his mouth, launching him into oncoming traffic in front of us. He landed just in front of us still on fire. We just had enough time to stop and put the 4 ways on. My BiL starts redirecting traffic while I put out the flames, and started first aid, another man steps in to help, 911 gets called, and we get the situation under control. Paramedics are on the way. To us is was just a standard first aid scenario, things went as smooth and calm as could be expected.
A woman identifies herself as a “nurse”, and states she “has this”, so we hand over the scene to her (competent authority takes control).
She promptly goes to the biker (remember the flames are out, F/A given, he is being monitored, a professional has been briefed on the situation, and has taken control of the scene), ID’s herself as a “nurse”, puts her hands on either side of his head and moved it. Guess what happened. Yup she broke his f~~~ing neck.
The reason I remember this is the amount of time we were in court (the biker actually called us in on his behalf). Despite witness statements, she still maintained no wrong doing, and that she was actually a “hero”, and we were at fault for making it worse.
This “nurse” was actually a f~~~ing clerk in a vets office.
If it wasn’t for the Good Samaritan Act we would have been screwed.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

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