Help! Buddy just announced engagement!

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Help!!!  I have a buddy that just announced his engagement.  He is not familiar with MGTOW.  The bride to be is only 40, and has a 16 year old daughter from a previous marriage.  Her ex husband committed suicide after they broke up.  My buddy is 45 and highly paid in his profession, with no kids of his own.  I don’t think that she is pregnant.

Is there an existing forum discussion on what I can do or say to him to change his mind, or does anyone have any ideas?  Any help is appreciated.

BVC

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Just caught this Viking. Apolz for the delayed reply but just made it sticky for others to notice and chime in.

I will say MGTOW is a calling and doesn’t really work as a sales pitch.
It’s a tough sell for any man not looking for the answers (if you get my meaning).

Dazzle (another member) actually told of a story where he had to endure being thrown out of a house for talking about it.

But I think the ex-husband killing himself is a pretty good warning label wouldn’t you say?

Have him talk to any divorce attorney. That should do it.
And if you want more, let me know. Plenty of info in our archives, like this one.

/video/traditional-relationships-nothing-but-a-business-deal/

Also, maybe you can slip in the use of the word “contract” into your conversations with him about it. Instead of talking about marriage, talk about “the marriage CONTRACT”. When he hears the word “contract”, it instantly deromanticizes it, and should make his ears perk up. You can say something like “funny you never struck me as the type to be willing to sign a marriage contract“. It has a totally different connotation than just talking about “marriage” or “the wedding”. Those are bulls~~~ fluffy terms. But contract is the merging of two corporations Nothing Disney about it.

Good luck! But lets’ hope luck is not a factor.

My best friend invited me to his wedding in 2010. He was married for only 4 months until she jumped on another dick. But I saw it coming a mile away and didn’t even fly to be guest. He thought I was a complete asshole for not springing for the airfare, but when he told me she cheated he forgave me and wished I tried to stop him. But you can’t. Some guys just won’t listen.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[YuriParticipant 185]

Try to make an effort to get him to watch this movie:

http://www.divorcecorp.com/the-film/

As KeyMaster said, use the term marriage contract extensively and tell him that her ex-husband killing himself is probably something that should raise his eyebrows. Try to get him to sit down and watch any of those “female talk-shows” where they joke and talk about trapping men into marriage, pregnancies and alimony. The archives should have plenty of those.

The right man at the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

[Jack RyanParticipant 2]

I saw your dilemma and can offer nothing except hope that he will wake up before the day. My condolences.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I just now googled “marriage contract.” It produced “About 10,500,000 results.” Most of the listings on page 1 are about saving a marriage — but there has to be something useful in there somewhere.

Some guys just won’t listen.

So true! I’m sure I wouldn’t have listened when consumed by the pink fog of what they call love.

Like the wise man said:

Married in haste, we may repent at leisure.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Thanks RoyDal for the inspiration….

I just had an afterthought….. if I were about to sign a marriage contract (wink) I would have a complete change of heart if I read this.

She’s “Happily Married Dreaming of Divorce”
http://mgtow.link/tien

THAT is what a man can look forward to after 16 years of busting his ass to make her happy. She represents a population of women who go through a “period of high irritation lasting one or two decades” (that’s like 3X longer than your average marriage!!)…. and then she resents the living s~~~ out of you in a mile-long list of diatribes.

Not too many printed words can provoke an emotional reaction out of me, but this article p~~~ed me the f~~~ off. Imagine being this c~~~’s husband and reading about what your wife REALLY thinks about you… and because you still greet her ungrateful ass with a SMILE in the morning. Then you read about it on CNN or Oprah online before you hear it from her.

What a c~~~.

Out of millions Google results when you search for “happily married”…
THAT is in the top 20 results. “Happily Married Dreaming of Divorce”

Nice.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[lukeylalaParticipant 56]

Did you see that bit in the article? “We are still visually tolerable if not downright irresistible when we’re 30 or 35 or 40. If you believe the fashion magazines – which I devoutly do – even 50 – and 60 – year-olds are (lick finger, touch to imaginary surface, make sizzle noise) pretty hot tickets.”

How full of s~~~ these women are. You’re not an irresistible hot piece of ass sweetheart. I’m sure your husband would rather be f~~~ing the hottest cheerleader at the local school.

“What this says to me (other than: my friends sure do come up with awfully good metaphors!) is that women don’t view divorce as a scary, shadowy behemoth.”

Of course not. You get half his money each month, most of his stuff and stop him seeing the kids while you f~~~ a hot new boy toy. Seems pretty great  for you.

“(as one friend’s husband put it, “I’m essentially a checkbook and a sperm bank — but I’m okay with that!”)”

You poor, poor man. A moment of silence for you.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Did I see it? It blinded me.

She should be happy someone is still wiling to LOOK at her aging ungrateful ass in the morning before Maybeline takes 10 years off.

The delusion these broads are capable of is unbelievable.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TYEParticipant 291]

Ever heard the saying “A hard head makes a soft Ass” give him your advice, and if he doesn’t listen he will come crawling back to you wishing he had ! 95% of Males have a hard time listening (NOT OVERALL LISTENING, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN ITS LIKE THEY HAVE EAR PLUGS IN), and because of this they learn by experience…which is very unfortunate, because by then the damage is already done !!!

[dominator_xParticipant 2]

My advice..  show him the facts. If he doesnt want to know or thinks he knows better.. wish him well and detach from the outcome. Zen Buddhism is a wonderful thing.

His path in life is his path… same with any other man’s.  As keymaster said.. its a calling.. and its screaming LOUD N CLEAR to the one’s who are ready to hear it.. and for those who dont.. they will suffer in silence.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

No use throwing a life preserver to a drowning man who thinks he’s f~~~in’ swimming.  Wait till he starts taking in water and floating…Then you can Throw the red-pill preserver and see what happens.

[DazzleParticipant 67]

My friend…..Forget it.

1. In hindsight if I was told NO back then. I’d say “f~~~ off, nawalt”

2. He is thinking “You are jealous”

3. He is thinking “I know my own mind”

4. He is thinking , its what’s expected, it’s what my family want, it will be happy ever after etc etc.

You can’t win, he has gone blue pill. ( I’ve been there, done that, got the gold badge to prove it!) Just wish him the best of luck and walk.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I’ll just leave this here:

Frog Soup

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[vurrichParticipant 25]

Experience is a hard teacher.

[SoldanoParticipant 108]

I say everyone has the right to choose.
JUst let him know about the consequences he might face especially in the UK or North America,
then he has every right to believe and to want a family.

IN spite of the madness of it, some people actually manage to make it work.

[gotmybellrungParticipant 6]

All I can say is Prenuptial, Prenuptial,Prenuptial, if I ever get serious with a woman again there will be a Prenuptial or no Marriage. Spend a few thousand upfront for a good lawyer and you will save your buddy untold thousands and major depression if and when the relationship ends. If the female doesn’t want one, run!

One other thing that I find works (as a reality check)  is tell your buddy to picture what she will look like in 10 years.

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Thanks to everyone for your help.  Definitely an uphill skate.  I will warn him and use the word contract, and prenup.  Best I can do.  It’s his life.  I am going to tell him to do it only if it is for him.  Not for anyone else, including her.  Most chix don’t last more than 3 years with this dude.  The announcement was a real surprise to us all.

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

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