Hello, this is my story…

[WOTGMSpectator 749]

I’m a good looking guy in his 30’s who is fed up with the way women act. For a long time I thought I wanted a “relationship” with a woman, and that it would solve all my problems of feeling alone. But then I realized that the fact that I even “needed” a woman to be happy proved that I had bigger issues going on than just not being able to find a companion. Note how I said “companion” and not “f-buddy” or “one night stand”. Those things are actually FAR easier to find than a loving, supporting woman. Which is hysterical to me, because women cry so much about only being valued for their bodies. Oh really? Then why is it when I try to value you for who YOU ARE AS A PERSON you treat me like garbage in return, and are only interested in a quick shag?

I find women in today’s scene to be toxic. Self-entitled, with a “me me me” attitude. The scary part is these women will blatantly hurt you, do things only a bad person would do, and then actually BELIEVE that they did nothing wrong or even WORSE, try to pin the blame on YOU! The scarier part is HOW MANY of these women are like that in today’s U.S.A.

I have had it. I have given up trying to find a good woman. They all seem to be after money! It is unbelievable how these women chase ugly, bald, fat or old men based only on how much they earn! They are actually PROUD to be this way!!! What is going on here? How can SO MANY women be so evil, so vile, and so disgusting?

Glad I found this site. My user name if you notice is WOTGM, which is MGTOW spelled backwards. It stands for “Why Opt To Get Married”. Not that anyone cares LOL! Great being here guys, the support helps. CHEERS! 🙂

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hi and welcome to the MGTOW forums! It seems your eyes are wide open.

Oh yeah… remove the vagina – pretend she has none, treat her “like a person” and there really isn’t much there. Evaluate females on their “character” and “personality” and no mater how low you lower the floor of expectation… she will consistently manage to fall below it.

If women had any sense, they would care less about what a guy “earns” and be more interested in what he SAVES. I have heard women ONLY – ONLY – care about how much a guy makes, but they don’t realize it’s not what you MAKE.. it’s what’s jingling in your pocket at the end of the year. Now ask any guy if he had more at the end of a year when there was no woman around.

I was actually curious (and wondered when you joined) what “WOTGM” stood for and googled it right away.
Thanks for the etymology.

Please make yourself at home. You’re among friends.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[WOTGMSpectator 749]

Hey KeyMaster thanks so much. You are spot on with your comment about money. You want to know something funny? I work at a job that is not what you would consider “high status” but it pays A LOT more than you would think it does, and I have great benefits. But I feel no need to explain this to a woman. You are so right about what it is you SAVE as opposed to what you EARN. The funny part is that my job is EXTREMELY SECURE as well, backed by a strong union. Yet sometimes these women go for guys who have “high status” jobs, but guess what happens? Yep, they lose those jobs, have no money saved, and then guess what happens? Yep, the woman disappears. I have seen this over and over again where I live, which is a major city.

It helps a lot knowing others are out there of like mind. I used to think “Am I crazy? Every woman seems so selfish, with a stink-face and they just act like nasty people”…even the not-so-hot ones! That’s the scary part! It’s like, you see a woman with average looks nowadays acting like she’s hot stuff! I’m thinking…”are you serious???”. Wow.

I realize now, everything I was chasing with a woman, I could get WITHOUT the woman. Ideas of marriage are now a distant memory for me. Get screwed in divorce court? NO THANKS!!! THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS SITE!!!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

It’s not your fault that women aren’t smart (correction, are downright STUNTED ) in their ability to see real value in men.

It’s an advantage! I knew I guy who made $250K a year and had very little show for it when tax time came around. Yeah, he was out every weekend dropping $400 on dates and had $1200 a month in Lamborghini payments… and $4000 mo in rent…. but a $90K guy with a 7 year old Toyota who lives in a $1200 mo apt can sock away some good cash and end up with MORE at the end of the year. Women will walk right past him, while he’s laughing his motherf~~~ing head off.

WOTGM wrote:

THANK YOU GUYS FOR THIS SITE!!!

Now THAT’s the spirit.

Smiles. Have a f~~~ing excellent weekend!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

@wotgm what KeyMaster has said here is spot on. I went through something similar and posted something not long ago here and i will quote it again:

“I want you to know that there are a lot of guys here who know exactly what you are feeling right about now and the mental circus that keeps going around in your head. Women are wired differently to us, men are problem solvers and we are always finding solutions to our problems so when something like this happens we continually play it over in our head and try to solve the problem by looking at every transgression in the relationship for a solution which leads us to blaming ourselves. Women love this s~~~ as mentioned enough times on this site, they take zero responsibility for anything.”

I had a similar experince to you, had a highly educated (university lecturer) woman like this and she threatened to put a Restraining Order on me or an AVO (Apprehensive Violence Order) under false allegations. I kept EVERYTHING, every text, email and call record and when things went bats~~~ crazy and she’d call me i’d put it on speaker phone and record it with my iPad next to me. Then I said “go ahead, serve me your Police paperwork and writ” I am really well off and I assured her I would bring THE best Queens Counsel, Barristers and Solicitors to Court and destroy her and when we were finished we would sue for damages and a legal bill. I actually said to her “Please serve me this paperwork, I have the time and money to take this to the High Court of Australia to change the law and expose you to the media.” I went and saw my Barrister over a boozy lunch by Sydney Harbour and he was salivating. She disappeared so fast.

But isn’t it surprising how alot of guys don’t have this option and are screwed over because they try to do the right thing? Better still, women like this run to the Police (mainly men) to protect them?

Any woman who issues or attempts to serve a “stalking” charge on me is going to be in a 3-5 year legal fight. I will f~~~ing destroy them emotionally, legally and financially for the rest of their f~~~ing life.</span>

@wotgm – keep your chin up mate, what KeyMaster said is correct, drop the baggage and never trust a woman 100% ever again. They are deceitful and as the joke goes “they are so f~~~ing low, they could parachute out of a snakes asshole and still have a freefall.”

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

DeepInThought wrote:

I actually said to her “Please serve me this paperwork, I have the time and money to take this to the High Court of Australia to change the law and expose you to the media.” I went and saw my Barrister over a boozy lunch by Sydney Harbour and he was salivating. She disappeared so fast. Any woman who issues or attempts to serve a “stalking” charge on me is going to be in a 3-5 year legal fight. I will f~~~ing destroy them emotionally, legally and financially for the rest of their f~~~ing life.

That’s f~~~ing awesome.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I find women in today’s scene to be toxic. Self-entitled, with a “me me me” attitude.

Same here. In my early grade school days and through my prime dating years, I wondered at the crap they pulled. Now I’m grown up and wonder no more. I wish I had caught on sooner; it would have saved me a lot of grief, time and money over the decades.

Congratulations on taking the red pill.

Keymaster wrote:

That’s f~~~ing awesome.

Ditto!!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[WOTGMSpectator 749]

Thank you DEEPINTHOUGHT for your reply. The thing that gets me is that if someone sent me an angry text, cursing at me, insulting me or whatever, it would never cross my mind to “go to the police”. I would handle my problem DIRECTLY with the person who was insulting me. And I would not try to ruin their life over something where they lost their cool spur of the moment.

What she did to me was different in that it was cold, calculated, and with intent to cause PERMANENT DAMAGE. That’s what eats at me. How can anyone be so vindictive? And she did not come across that way AT ALL. Trust women? Never again.

[RoyDalParticipant]

WOTGM wrote:

Thank you DEEPINTHOUGHT for your reply.

DeepInThought is wise. I was once in a milder form of the same situation while working for a major corporation. The fact that I kept careful records saved me a big bunch of grief once — mind you I kept backup copies off company property.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

WOTGM wrote:

Thank you DEEPINTHOUGHT for your reply. The thing that gets me is that if someone sent me an angry text, cursing at me, insulting me or whatever, it would never cross my mind to “go to the police”. I would handle my problem DIRECTLY with the person who was insulting me. And I would not try to ruin their life over something where they lost their cool spur of the moment. What she did to me was different in that it was cold, calculated, and with intent to cause PERMANENT DAMAGE. That’s what eats at me. How can anyone be so vindictive? And she did not come across that way AT ALL. Trust women? Never again.

 

How can they do this? Because mate, women are not rational. They are forever and a day told THEY are the VICTIM, they have rights and the feminists have it so ingrained in their heads that they could be killed any time by a crazy ex partner. Fact is women seldom give closure and when they do it is to alleviate their guilt for getting a new c~~~ in them. You know, as I got older I thought it would get easier with women, I though over 30 “we’ve all been in the wars, a little battle fatigued and wiser'” well I can tell you it doesnt, in fact it gets worse and I have met women now 50+ years of age who try to play on their age as wisdom and yet they are are a DADS (Dumb As Dog S~~~).

Contacting your ex post police warning was a bad idea, don’t worry most guys have done this, we try to smooth things over and be amicable and yet they play the victim, more-so her because she would have used her academia as a leg up to represent herself as a standing member of the community, it’s total BS. It is hard mate and it hurts ALOT but you’ll heal, never forget, and move on. It took me 18 months but I got there!

P.S. Thanks guys, I’m not wise, I’ve made some really dumb mistakes in my life been the mangina and white knight, But things have changed but like KeyMaster quotes the power of “NO” is powerful. I have read so many book by entrepreneurs who say “the more you say no the easier it is to say yes” is very true. People will get the s~~~s, people will call you everything under the sun and shun you…awesome because they aren’t worth it. The friends I have, male and female, are solid, successful, intelligent and affluent and none of them will put up with such tripe. Take care and feel free to ask me anything, i will try to give the best and honest answer based on my experience.

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