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Hello everyone, just wanted to introduce myself. I am a 23 year old from Toronto, I suppose what brought me here was …damn I dont even know how to begin. All my life my parents have taught me, or “given” me this idea of what a gentlemen is supposed to behave like, to be myself and find someone who “loves you for who you are”. Growing up in elementary school girls ignored me, but whatever besides a couple small crushes I was a boy with plenty of friends and that made me happy. High school was pretty much the same, I grew uncomfortable being around women because I felt that my shyness or at times awkwardness made women find me undesirable. I treated women like I treated my male friends, and its kinda funny looking back but perhaps this was wrong.
Towards the end of high school I started working out, even got myself a girlfriend. S~~~ got real, I knew nothing about women and did not realize till later that I was being used. So a few months go by and I can proudly say that at least I was the one who ended it. Didn’t get into another relationship till last year after college, and that ended terribly. When we finally started getting serious she broke it off because she told me “she didn’t trust me”. Now I’m not perfect, by no means lol and if anything I felt like my value as a human being diminished over this time, I was confused because I was myself with her, always told the truth and when I didnt want to I would stay quiet (passive aggressively) and I should also note I have never so much as held a girls hand outside of a relationship.
This ended in April 2014, I quickly spiraled into depression and have been dealing with it since, honestly having random sex or one night stands with sluts probably made me a misogynist but who knows/cares. I stopped working out and lost ambition which in turn has put me behind getting a career and getting my life together. I never knew about the red pill or mgtow but when I found out about it, well s~~~ its like I had an epiphany, “Don’t let a bitch determine your value”.
I’m glad I found this place, I am glad that there are other like minded men who have been s~~~ on and realized that in order to live a happy life you must be happy with yourself first. Im working out again and have made a promise to myself to improve, but for me not some skank who wants to use me for whatever the f~~~ reason women use men. I feel like Ive been a sheltered idiot my whole life and I just woke up, if you actually read all this then I thank you for taking the time to do so. I look forward to chatting and contributing to future discussions and hopefully I can help young men who are going or have been through what I have.
Welcome DT. And thanks for joining. Of course we read it. MGTOW always read it. Top to bottom. They may not always respond because your story (as you know) is common, and we get almost exactly the same words from men who arrive from all other cities and different lives – exactly the same way. So thank you for dropping it.
I have family in Toronto and know exactly where you came from… and how you got here.
But here is something you may not know….When we finally started getting serious she broke it off because she told me “she didn’t trust me”
That’s very convenient. But the f~~~ing bitch doesn’t know anything about how trust works.
RESPECT is earned.
TRUST must be freely given (or not) until it is abused or taken for granted.
When women say “i don’t trust you” it’s a f~~~ing s~~~ test. And totally transparent. This is every woman’s lazy way of sitting back with her arms folded, thinking she can say 4 words… and now she expects YOU to stand on your hind legs to somehow jump through hoops to *prove* you are trustworthy. She does this for her own entertainment so she can sit back and say “AW, how cute. Look what I can make him do.” Never fall for that s~~~. Here’s why…..
Women will tell complete f~~~ing strangers (online or offline) the most intimate details of their relationships and sex lives with strangers and everyone else before the guy they are in a relationship with. We actually had a woman here(!) who did that last week. She came and asked us about how to get her boyfriend to engage in her sex and bondage fantasies and we told her to f~~~ off this website and talk it over with HIM.
99.999% of the time when a woman says “she doesn’t trust you”, it means you can’t trust HER. She doesn’t even know the meaning of the word.
TRUST works like that. People tell hairdressers, bartenders, complete strangers sitting next to us on an airplane (and even people online!) some completely personal things we don’t discuss with friends or family. And why? Because those people can’t hurt us. You girlfriend can. Your family can. Your wife can. Your boss can. Except complete strangers won’t … because they don’t give a s~~~. You automatically “trust” more easily people you don’t know… before the people who are closest to you.
You don’t EXPECT someone to prove trust.
You either trust them FREELY… or you choose not to.
That’s how trust works.But women think RESPECT should be automatically given to them….. and TRUST must be EARNED. Both are f~~~ing lazy as s~~~. They are cop outs. They are trying to get off easy. And it’s pathetic. “You need to respect women”…. and “I don’t trust you” are complete bulls~~~. You want to break up because you don’t trust me? Fine. LEAVE. Go get a puppy to perform tricks for you instead. You will trust me freely or you will not. Your choice. Or get out.
Simple as that.
So the next time a chick says “how do I know I can trust you?” you know exactly what to do.
Ask her: “How do you know you CAN’T?”
You will not prove you are trust worthy to anyone. They will, trust you. Or they won’t. When you make a business deal you shake hands. Right there, a stranger trusts that you do the job… and you trust that you will be paid for it. You don’t ask them to PROVE it right then and there. That would be tacky. Just like a woman who says “I don’t trust you”. OK then. Get out.
Trust is up to THEM. Respect is up to YOU. As a man, you will learn this – like it or not. As a woman, this would get lost on her and she will get mad – because you called her out, you know better, and she won’t get her way. She knows she has got WORK to get respect. And “I don’t trust you” is a goddam LIE. She will trust some stranger before you, so you get rid of her when she says that.
Thanks for the inspiring thought.
You just got here and you already made a valuable contribution. And probably didn’t know it.Cheers.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I appreciate the thoughtful response, and yeah looking back at it now I wish I handled it differently, to be honest she could have also been cheating on me behind my back but I will never know and neither do I care. If anything she did me a favor, made me realize that she was not the perfect sweet angel I thought she was. And I certainly got taught a lesson lol.
I also hear what your saying about respect, I believe that is a byproduct of poor parenting, mom or dad telling their daughter that shes a perfect princess and that everyone should love her for who she is and if they dont blah blah blah. Im sure you’ve heard it before and have a better understanding of it then me. Makes me wonder though, do women have any concept or understanding of the word “honor”?
Interesting question….
do women have any concept or understanding of the word “honor”?
One of our esteemed members (VileNord) dropped a quote a while back. Its been immortalized in our quotes section:
I’ll just leave this here:
Smiles.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.AND PS…. I just took a trip over to the members page and saw your profile bio / quote.
I read:
No means yes, yes means anal
Doubled over laughing. S~~~ that’s hilarious. I can’t believe I almost missed that gem.
Congratulations. You just got here and are now immortalized on the MGTOW wall of fame.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Hahaha glad you like it! Thanks for the link, its an interesting quote and I feel like I should do some personal research into the topic. If I do I’ll be sure to post a topic with some results.
I did some personal research on the topic. I was in bed with a chick making out. She looked fantastic nearly naked. We’re about to make the beast with two backs (or so I thought)… the train is about to enter the tunnel, and she says “no”. My nut is sacred and as far as (not just) I am concerned you don’t DO that. You don’t give a guy f~~~ing blue b~~~~ like that. She did this on purpose. She went as far as she could before she said “No”.
That’s like getting all the way up to the wedding, and when you’re exchanging vows, you tell her “I don’t”.
So fine. I get up , put my pants on and get ready to leave.
Where are you going? she says. “no means no” I said.
My hand is on the door knob…. and she JUMPS me changing her mind.“NO. MEANS. NO.” I said.
… and I left. She was SO p~~~ed. And I enjoyed every minute of it as I strutted the f~~~ out of there as if I kicked her cat across the lawn on the way out.
So it turns out she was testing me. To see what I would do. And then she “changed her mind”. I wasn’t gonna indulge her so she could wake up the next morning and “change her mind” AGAIN. I’m not ending up on the front page of some paper because some bitch can’t f~~~ing make up her mind.
So your quote really hit home with me.
And I learned: NO only means “NO”…. when a MAN says it.Good research here.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.- AuthorPosts
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