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Hello,
I’d like to greet all the brothers gathered here and thank you for all the job you’ve done in propagating the MGTOW content and ideas, which allowed me to find you.
A story of my life (sorry for the length of it):
Up to 19yo I lived in a house, in a small city together with mother, 1 year older sister and father coming home for weekends (working in another city during the week).
I was “bullied” in primary and middle school (they were joined) for not fitting in with the crowd of idiots and having good grades (literally, people in my school boasted about having s~~~ty grades and the prospects of being thrown out) even though I made next to no effort in gaining them. I wrote word “bullied” in quotation marks because it was not as aggressive as in some of the cases I’ve heard off. Mostly just being pushed around by a group of guys standing in a circle, so I didn’t even know who to fight against, because even if I tried, I was thrown off balance by a push from behind my back. Still, it was infuriating, but not often. I started training, at first by myself, doing pushups, situps, pullups and squats, soon after I joined a karate club.
Soon I started publicly calling out my bullies to single fights behind the school in attempts to force them into a one-on-one or shame them in front of everyone for being a coward. I beat the face of a guy a head taller and perhaps even 15kg, or more, heavier than me – funny thing, he didn’t know how to fight at all (not that I’ve known much more than him) I hit him lightly, when I was pinned against the wall, in the jaw, he slipped and sat with his back on the wall, then received 3 punches to the face which ended the fight. A wheel of fortune turning in my favour. After that one fight, all the bullying stopped and never appeared again, I guess primitive people only respect power. At any sight of offense, I immediatelly invited the source to the back of the school, which ended in people shaming them for being cowards.
My physical development was never an issue, my mental and sexual one was in the gutters. I’ve learned to deal with emotions by setting up barriers around me, since I had no positive male role model and you can’t learn that from a woman.
My sister and mother were manipulative and playing on my emotions, often riling me up to the moment I couldn’t contain the anger and exploded. This seemed to entertain them in a way, provided them excitement. They appeared disapproving of my eruption, but perpetually continued their riling up after a short period of inactivity. A “weekend father” has grown more distant with every week passing. Soon he was just someone who liked to watch TV loud and interrupt others. Also, I can’t call him a positive male role model, he was agreeing to every demand my manipulative mother made and proxied punishments. I immersed myself in fighting sports and in games.
I had no sex ed in school, nor parents explaining anything to me. I was 17yo when I got to know how to jack off, which was a huge blow to me reaching maturity. I was a mangina when it came to women, I could wipe the floor with men and laugh in their faces, but women were pandora boxes to me (you’d think that having an older sister would make it be the other way around, sadly, not). I was taught to respect what they want, don’t hurt them, help them and whatever other mangina trait you might come up with, I had those traits till I became a MGHOW.
My first girlfriend in highschool was such a fine example of a gossip girl, I’ve broken up with her after only one month, because the knowledge, that my female friend sitting next to me is better informed about my relationship than me, was infuriating. This one month was enough to put me on hold for 5 years (just one month and the break up made me so happy I was uninterested in women for 5 years, but we all forget the bad things over time).
At this point in life I changed myself, I didn’t want to be remembered as a sad person if I died. I stopped walking around, looking sad, I smiled at people for no reason and found it amusing when they smiled back. I’ve developed a taste for the look of laughter, shame and disgust on people faces when I was telling a nasty or perverted joke (even though I was being a virgin, oh the irony).
After those 5 years (I was 23yo) I met a girl (19yo), whom I liked. While being a virgin, she had so much life baggage not one of you would have bothered with her for respect of your own health (going for medical school -> no time for me, father that ran away after creating debts), but not me, oh no, not the mangina I was. I was visiting her every weekend (6-7h trip both ways to my hometown, she never visited me), since I was studying in another city. Often I didn’t get even as much time with her, as it was taking me to have a trip to the town she was living in. I lasted for 6-7 months without sex and when we did have sex, it was like 1-3 times a month top, with issues (she was afraid of gynecologists and addicted to masturbation from child age). Looking back I do see how much of an idiot I was for putting up with any of that. During the last vacation before her enrollment I tried to get as much time with her as possible, knowing I most likely won’t have any anytime soon, she didn’t seem to be as willing as I was though. I was slowly mentally destroyed and more and more depressed by not being able to be with her, while being on the leash of love, not getting any sex and being constantly riled up by my mother and my sister for being a parasite, that does nothing and only leeches the money. When my mother and sister made me explode I did shout out to them that I know I am being a parasite and that I can’t help it now, that it doesn’t suit me any more than it suits them (of course I wasn’t as polite, I never was). The next day my mother told me “I and your sister deserve an apology”, me – “No you don’t, I am sticking by whatever I told you yesterday”, mother – “Then leave this house and don’t come back until you find a job”, me – “I won’t ever come back”. I made some arrangements with my father (to whom my contact improved by living in same apartment while studying) and got a key to my grandparents apartment in my hometown, only to last a month longer in my pathetic relationship.
My third relationship was sort of a rebound, after a month from breaking up with the one before, I went onto an online dating site, found a girl whose profile I liked and contacted her. Well, she never introduced me to her friends (claiming they are too weird… love seriously lowers my IQ drastically), had many male friends and couldn’t stay off of her phone or facebook for a moment. Well, the big self esteem breaker for me which led to break up was her rolling eyes and smirking at my premature ejaculation the one time we had sex (still was a mangina believing you should only have sex with the person you love, after getting to know them, no hookers and having next to 0 sexual experience. The feeling of having sex without such effort like with the girl before was overwhelming, still, that can’t be used as an excuse).
During the time of my 2 and 3 relationships my parents were getting divorced and the crazy s~~~ I’ve seen will ward me off till the end of times from marrying a woman. The vindictiveness, the fight to the death, to destroy everything he has while ignoring her own losses and mental state, the downpour of hate for my father filled sms’es I received from her. Checkmating my father trying to stay in the house with the violence accusations and all the other stuff.
I’ve cut all my ties to my mother and sister and I feel so satisfied with it. It’s hard to imagine how being cut off from family could ever create a positive feeling, though it did.
I figured that if my mother and sister, the ones who were supposed to be closest to me couldn’t love me, then there is no woman capable of love. I started searching for the knowledge of mentality, of what makes women who they are and I stumbled on MGTOW.
I am a handsome man (a bit balding, but it really isn’t a big issue), fit (186cm, 90kg, well developed muscle), dick size isn’t an issue, intelligent and earning well (working as a programmer and thinking of starting my own company with 2 buddies of mine) while still studying, I have my hobbies (recently I bought a compound bow :D). And now, when I have a bright future ahead of me, I don’t have one f~~~ to give about women, I don’t feel any need for them.
It is pathological, but I like seeing them expressing their interest in me, when I am at the top of my game and only aiming higher, and dismissing them like they aren’t worth a thought.
I do not think of myself as a perfect being, I see my shortcomings, errors and faults. MGTOW has shown me, that whatever values and goals have been instilled into me, they have no value if they don’t make me happy.
For that I’m thankful to everyone in MGTOW.
Cheers lads 🙂
Welcome to MGTOW from a fellow programmer.  Sounds like you’ve had a rough go of it but you’re on a good path now.  Focus on cleaning out the trash from the past while building a positive future!
It is for very good reasons the Devil chose to tempt Eve not Adam...
Beast wrote: I do not think of myself as a perfect being, I see my shortcomings, errors and faults. MGTOW has shown me, that whatever values and goals have been instilled into me, they have no value if they don’t make me happy.
Your early knowledge about females and this type of humility puts you way ahead of where most of us old men were at your age….We believed in all that (what it takes to be a man) bulls~~~ and wasted a big part of our lives trying to live up to others expectations…Welcome to MGTOW enjoy the forum..
I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.
Focus on cleaning out the trash from the past while building a positive future!
It is exactly what I am doing now, thanks :).
We believed in all that (what it takes to be a man) bulls~~~ and wasted a big part of our lives trying to live up to others expectations.
Ironically, what, in a big part, made me not care about others opinion was my mother being never satisfied with my grades. I could score 5/5 on a random test and she’d ask me “why not 6?” (random tests, or how do you call it in english, don’t have 6 on scale) or “what did that girl who learns well get?”.
Thanks for welcoming me :).
Welcome!
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Welcome to the front soldya
"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"
Thanks guys 🙂
Hi and thank you so much for your contribution.
Your story is very real and interesting, and yet i guess a lot of what you’ve experienced we can relate to.
The part about your mother interested me the most. I’m always happy to see guys realising what a manipulative person their mother is. Don’t give up on your sister yet. There might be hope.
I guess MGTOW is the realisation that we’re alone. My family also gives me a hard time when i’m between jobs they treat me like s~~~, and then when i find one suddenly they have 50 000E to give me if i decide to get married. Why the f~~~ didn’t you give me the money when i obviousely need it instead ?
Well turns out my mother is ashamed of me not having a job.
Anyway, you don’t have to completely opt out of relationships, all you have to do is stop putting your heart and ego into it. Women are just women, they are important if you let them be, so good work on realising that they’re no godesses and breaking free fro the mangina indoctrination. Your hapiness comes from you no one else. Yes we’re alone in this world, but that doens’t have to be a sad thing in fact it’s liberating, because at the end of the day you shouldn’t give a s~~~ about others since they probably don’t care about you.
BE yourself, with humility and against the grain, that what being a man is all about.
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