Hello Brothers

[Anonymous 0]

Hello Brothers,

 

I’m 26, from London, and woke up 3 years ago.

 

I grew up with an absentee father and a feminist single mother who made it her life’s work to ensure me & my siblings knew how sinful every aspect of my father was. I actually don’t blame him for leaving, he left to pursue and enjoy his life free from the artifice of routine and the ritualistic s~~~ testing, his motivations were at least pure.

 

Discovered I liked guys at 17, to the delight of the women in my family. Finally they could drop the pretence of making me into the kind of man that women wanted and instead try to feminise me into the gay best friend, their ultimate expression of control over the masculine (it’s eradication). I hated every single moment. Every single cheesy “hunky” poster they’d buy me for Christmas featuring some gaunt little twink that I was supposed to find attractive, the looks of expectation on their faces at how I should be wrist-clappingly overjoyed, foaming at the imaginary vulva they demanded I inherit. I disappointed them routinely, I wasn’t a “proper” gay.

 

If you think feminisms erosion of the typical hetero masculine life narrative are bad, you would do well to look at what they’ve done to gay men (& women for that matter) with prescient horror. Coming out is a conscious rejection of the narrative you’ve spent every waking moment of your life living, the sheer panic & dread of not knowing what course your life should take and how to define yourself is like red pilling as a child, with no MTGOW or redpillers to look to for guidance. You feel lost. And in that vacuum the feminists have been twisting men’s perceptions and expectations into their own ideals. They made me feel wrong in my own skin and I hate them.

 

I moved out as soon as I could at the age of 18 and progressively began to untangle the decades of schema building and conditioning. First I discovered Objectivism; it’s simple methodology and clear rationale gave voice to the relationships between my values, beliefs, and helped me to identify how the various aspects of my life were interwoven. I was not, as the feminists claim, a nebulous cloud of feelings being acted upon by the tyranny of life (a life controlled by masculine forces). The choice was simple and it was mine; choose to live or choose to die.

 

Next I had to distance myself from the desperation of finding a group to belong to. To not sublimate my individuality for the objectivist persona but to forge my own personality qualified by nothing but my will to live it. This was by far the hardest part (and still is). Like many here I have my stories of betrayal but I choose not to let them, or my reaction to them, define me.

 

I am the IT security nerd. I am the outdoors/survival skills nut. I am the amateur philosopher. I am the entrepreneur. And I am the masculine gay guy.

 

Nice to meet you.

[WallyParticipant]

Wulf welcome to MGTOW!  Its always interesting that the women in our lives try to shape us the way they think men should be no matter what direction our lives take us instead of just letting us be. I highly doubt the women in your family would have bought you posters of scantily clad women if that was your preference, but since it wasn’t it was ok to objectify the guys.  You are very wise at 26 to know the direction of your life.

 

 

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[kizellParticipant 368]

Welcome.   Too many women just don’t understand men, no matter their sexuality.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Anonymous wrote:

look at what they’ve done to gay men

What did they do to gay men, you got me curious?

(On the side note i think you’re lucky to be born gay cause you wont have to deal with t~~~s.)

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[On the PathParticipant 28]

Welcome Wulf,

I laughed a little about the women buying you posters of hunky dudes.
Ha, can you imagine how wildly inapropriate they would find it to give a straight guy a playboy.

You are right on the money with women wanting to change men into something they’re not.
Just to transform us into something that only benefits them!

Continue on the path of (self) discovery, and don’t let anyone tell you who to be (not even us!).

[Anonymous 0]

Franky wrote:

Wulf wrote:

look at what they’ve done to gay men

What did they do to gay men, you got me curious? (On the side note i think you’re lucky to be born gay cause you wont have to deal with t~~~s.)

 

Gay men now occupy this quasi-female role; women don’t regard them as “one of them”, but not quite male either. And vice versa for men. This alienation was brought about by the feminising of gay men for the largely utilitarian purposes of using their perspective on male sexual strategy, and to act as a buffer for their various neuroses.

 

In the schemaless vacuum that being an ‘out’ gay guy puts you in, it’s entirely reasonable to identify that the heterosexual schema can be adopted for the pursuit of men by men, as feminism warped the heterosexual schema they did it for everyone using it; women and gay men alike. The fact that the feminist inspired female sexual strategy is entirely incongruent with male attitudes to sex and relationships was (as far as feminists were concerned) irrelevant, it wasn’t for mens benefit anyway regardless of orientation.

 

Ultimately women don’t have any interest in gay men being liberated and comfortable with their own sexuality and narrative. Sex between men drives down the market value of pussy, if men can get sexual gratification without the s~~~ tests, subversions, games, etc, women wouldn’t be in a position to exploit their monopoly.

 

To answer your question though; I have to deal with men who should all be striving for alpha-ness, who have instead internalised and practice female sexual strategy. What should be the archetype of alpha has become the illustration of beta. So yes I absolutely have to deal with s~~~ tests, sluts, whores, t~~~s, etc. Difference is mine aren’t biologically programmed to be that way. That is their tragedy.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Franky wrote:

What did they do to gay men, you got me curious?

I guess he’s talking about gay pride/feminism whatever going hand in hand. Most gays I’ve seen are really into the feminist bulls~~~/theories.
Hopefully we have guys like Milo Yiannopoulos to counter balance it 😀

Anyway, you’re welcome here buddy :D!

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[NinjaParticipant 39]

Hi Wulf, welcome, I’m 25 myself and it’s amazing that so many people in my age group are going their own way.

When you mentioned women changing men, believe me its more than on the mental level it’s on a physical level as well. Look at married couples, the misery and mental stress feeds into the male letting himself go, weight gain, hair loss, accelerated aging etc.

[SilverstoneParticipant 133]

Welcome, man. Nice to see another guy taking the pill. I’m sure you’ll bring some unique perspectives about women that most of us don’t have, enjoy your stay 😀

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Welcome Wulf. You are amongst friends here. Thanks for the intro and nice to meet your bro.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

They just can’t keep their claws out of men …. like were a cross between slave & pet. We need training and conditioning it seems.

It’s surprising that gay men are going through that crap as well.

No matter how old I get … I’m constantly being surprised and educated.

Are you the first openly gay, masculine, bitched at, red pill taking mgtow?  Jesus … if you are .. then my greatest respect and admiration.

Please don’t tell me dating guys is not the nightmare dating women is ?

Double welcome

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

You remind me of a friend of mine that’s looks just like your average joe.And you have these t~~~s constantly trying to make him adopt this “feminine” look and constantly saying how he’s “just like a girl.”I might be imagining things but sometimes he has this tired look on his face when they do it.

Anyways welcome bro.

 

 

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