Hardest job in the world – I don't think so.

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

Men,

I am a single father of two children (8 year old twins – boy/girl). I (fortunately) have 50/50 custody. I love them dearly.

I have often heard the phrase that raising children is the hardest job in the world. Now I have had many jobs in my life (age 53 now) and raising my two children is far easier than any job I have ever had. It is ridiculously fun and quite a joy.

So when Oprah or some other stupid c~~~ says, “she’s a hero for doing the hardest job in the world – raising children” I call bulls~~~.

I have worked retail, poured hot tar in the summer, been a lifeguard, worked as a supervisor in various areas, worked in a legal department for insurance companies; physical jobs, desk jobs, warehouse jobs – All harder than raising children.

In raising children I don’t have to worry about office politics, commuting, being late, p~~~ed off customers, being politically correct.

I am deeply involved in my children’s lives. I am a great father. I spend all my time with them. It is not difficult. Oh, there are moments when it can be hard. But, come on, really. What’s so hard about it? Just be there for them and take care of them and love them. Show them what it means to be respectful, responsible and caring.

I was talking with a friend (male) about this and he said something very wise. He said, “raising children may not be the hardest job in the world, but it is the most important one”. Blew my f~~~ing mind. He is right on.

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[RoyDalParticipant]

I’m all in for “most important job.”

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 13]

Well done on getting 50/50 and being a big part of their lives and enjoying it. I think enjoying it is key here. When you enjoy something, it’s not viewed so much as work or a job.

So I have to question women when they say it’s a hard job? What are they actually saying?
They go on and on about how much they want kids and how important they are to them, then spend all the time bitching about what a hard job it is, playing victim (again) and getting ego strokes about how hard the job is and how well they’re doing it.

I find the same thing when they complain about things like housework and making food. I used to hate when my wife would start bitching about housework and cooking, not like I didn’t do my fair share from working, to cutting grass, hedges, maintaining cars, fixing house, decorating etc etc. I never seemed to stop, always doing something, always fixing something. Hell I even did the damn housework myself too.

No, but when SHE does it, it’s the hardest job in the world?

Now I’m alone, it’s funny I never found dragging the hoover around and wiping the surfaces once or twice a week a chore? It’s easy and quick, job done.

Anything YOU do is put down in some way. Anything they do is such hard work.
And they never let an opportunity pass to tell you how hard they work. F~~~ off.

Never stop doing things with your children, or enjoying it, for it’s that what they will remember about their childhood and take it with them through life.

[bladeParticipant]

I had my children full time on my own for three and a half years . I use to think the same . When my kids were littrally dumped on my doorstep my youngest was a toddler and my other was five . My five year old was pretty messed up for around six months . But i put everything into my kid’s and kept routine . Lots of woman winge how hard it is and it f~~~ing isn’t. Routine is very important . I really mean it when i say men make a better single parent than a single mother . Men are more protective than woman to of their children . In those three and a half years i seen some f~~~ed up single mothers and am adimit men are better . I honestly think it is one of the biggest myths promoted in society today . My youngest who know has just turned 11 still wants to be with me . Baby bond . Both my kids are still are p~~~ed at what has happend and havent forgotten . I try discouraging them from this. When i speak to my 11 year old she always will bring up random stuff from when she was little . Things are happening . fingers crossed they might be back . My case has got some real intrest and some other things i have . It is not just about my kids but all kids because they all have to grow up in this world together . Even just one kid that comes from a bad home and cross paths with your kid could have major effect . Woman only care about them selves .
Thats why these woman never march for childrens wrights . Children have a wright to have a mother and father .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

NEVER PUT DOWN THE OTHER PARENT TO YOUR CHILDREN OR QUESTION THEM ON THE OTHER PARENT. LET THEM BE CHILDREN . IF YOUR CHILDREN HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THEY WILL TELL YOU .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

If you see a young child with a mark on them just ask what happend and leave it at that for them to tell you . Don’t interogate kids .
Way kids play with toys and interact can speak volumes on there own .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[UntamedParticipant]

Weemins always want to shove lies down our throat because that’s all they got to compete against Men’s engenuity.
Queens of fibbing and princesses of pretention.
They will invent any and all pretext to debase, shame and kill Men and nothing is too low or underhanded for these bipedal demons. The truth matters little to them and facts are troublesome to their murderous agenda.
Here’s a fact: Men are more capable in raising kids than women.
Here’s another fact: Men don’t need women around for anything at all.
that’s right, bitches. Read it and weep.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Is raising kids a job at all?
In my blue pill days I have been raising 3 daughters and 1 son from toddler to mature personalities. I do have an additional son, who happens to live with his mom (now 15).
I think, I have changed more diapers and cared for sick kids, tought to ride bycicles and stuff, than a whole lot of other guys (Along with a 60hr+ working week).

so what is the “work” of raising a child? you look after them, you play, read them books, cook, clean after them and teach them basics. But what would your life look alike, if you would not have kids? You’d still be cleaning your house, cook, do the dishes, wash clothes and when spare times allows read, play or do things kids actually enjoy, if you let them participate.
So where is the “work” then? just because of that 2 or 3 extra washing machine fillings? that is a few minutes a week, at max.

Spending time with your kids is a “reward” to divorced / seperated men (some of us do really have to fight hard for this), so how comes the same “reward” suddenly becomes “work” just becaue a female is enjoying it?

in the western societies, “work” is very easy to define, it is the activity someone is willing to pay you for. If no-one is willing to pay you for the activity, then it is no work, then it is called a hobby.
I do enjoy working on my car, there are professional mechanics, too. But that does give me no right to call my hobby “work” just because there is someone somewhere, who is gettig paid for it.
think about chefs, hookers, professional sportguys, someliers, authors, dog trainers… – all of them do things and are getting paid for it, which makes this activity their profession.
Just because I also enjoy cooking, f~~~ing, sports, drinking, writing or having a dog, that doesn’t make this my “work”.

If someone decides to pick up trainig and to run a marathon, then this is exhausting, nevertheless it is just a hobby (most likely).

If someone decides to have a child, it is a long-term obligation, but nevertheless in times of 99,x% reliability of contraceptives and the possibilty of terminating unwanted pregnany, it is not a “job”.
Is it exhausting? – yes sure, but so is the Iron Man contest, too. And still plenty of people decide to participate.
Is it expensive? – yes, it is, but ask a computer nerd, a yachting guy or a motor freak, if their hobbies are “cheap”.

A hobby can become a job, but only to those, who are actually good at it. Choosing the wrong partner, breaking up or not being able to properly finance your “hobby” – does not make you good at it.
A woman seperating from the father, but still relying on child support is NOT good at raising children. An abusive mom ist NOT good at raising children. Not being good at things, does not magically turn such things into jobs.

sorry for the long post, props to whomever made it to here. regarding grammar and spelling mistakes – it’s all finders = keepers 😉

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[BoarParticipant]

Of course it is hard for whimyn: raising children requires sacrifice and maturity. How dare you ask whimyn to do this!!!!

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[SolidParticipant 7520]

Muglintar wrote:

Is raising kids a job at all?

Well, raising kids in the way I was raised, that can be considered a part time job, really. I’m not defending those nowadays c~~~s, but since I remember (2yo), my mother used to teach me all afternoon long, and by that, give me a challenging homework to do or other puzzles, or if I had some homework, help me with that.

I started to write and learned the basic mathematical operations before I even started school (Here we start at 7yo), she helped me until I was about 11 to 12yo, then I learned about computers, and that was a topic that she wasn’t able to explain to me, so from there on, I gone by my own.

But in her very particular case, I would consider it a part time job, considering that I and my family always have excellent meals prepared for her with fresh ingredients, a lot of them she cultivated in our garden. She have to wash our clothes by hand, NO MACHINES. We had a wood house who required far more cares than a concrete house. And she was really busy with that around 8 hours every day.

But this is ONE case that I never would see again, why ? Today’s c~~~s can’t even cook or clean. They can’t wash their clothes even if they have machines to do that ! To them, take care of a child is be a “loving mother”, take thousands of pictures and put on instagram with quotes from movies and books, feed the child with s~~~ just to make it shut up, put it in front of the television, so she can talk with chads on tinder…

For today’s c~~~, child is pure gold, why ? Child = FREE MONEY, Child = A PET THAT WILL LEARN TO TALK
Just that, I know that there are several women who really love their children BUT I also know a lot of single moms that you just drop their children in anyone’s house just to f~~~ a chad. Leave your children with people that you don’t know, seriously, how insane is that ? On my bluepill days I f~~~ed a single mom in an 1 room apartment, it was late night, she leave her daughter watching TV, and we have sex in the bed where she and her daughter usually sleep. The kid fell asleep in front of the television, and she didn’t give a f~~~, she just keep talking to me and after I kissed her good buy, she grabber the kid as I was a bag and gone to their room with that.

I won’t even consider raising a children like that as a job, neither consider those c~~~s as mothers ! Yes, you read it right, to me, they aren’t mothers, they are just some random bitch opened their legs to anyone and get pregnant by accident or strategy, and them put a kid into this world, and instead of orientation, they just threat the kid as a pet expecting it to become a medical doctor, or a CEO, so they can talk about it to her friends.

I’ve heard it from a lot of people, that being a good parent, isn’t about being a loving parent, kids need balance. That why we have those mangina generation today. Too much safe space, too much crying for mommy, too much daddy buy me anything, too much “oh, you are so special, you are so smart”, too many single moms, because seriously, a man to become a man without having a real father, is to expect a Miracle ! The kid will grow seeing his mother being banged by everyone that he knows, and listening to her saying that men are all pigs ! So you have a generation that just studied what school expected them to study, that can’t think by themselves, that inside think that they are so special and smart, that everyone else is just a trained monkey, that need their safe spaces because can’t face adversity, everyone against them is a “close minded hater to dumb to see the truth”. Those snowflakes, won’t last a day in the world that I and the majority of MGTOWs here were raised.

You know what is shocking ? Parents can’t spank their kids anymore ! Maybe you don’t agree with that, but when I was a kid, if I wanted something in the super market, I asked, a NO, was a NO, I can’t remember, but my mother tell me this story, that once, I was 3 or 4 years old, I started nagging, she just spanked me in the middle of super market and we gone home just after that. After that I NEVER done that again.

Brothers, I don’t know by you, but I put my foot outside my house to go anywhere, and there are several c~~~s with kids from 3-10yo, that with the same behaviour, but you know that it’s repetitive, because the c~~~ instead of putting an end to it, just keep negotiating with the kid. So, the kid grow like “ok, I will just cry and people will give me stuff”. That’s why several c~~~s when they are wrong in a discussion, just start crying, the very same essence, the very same child behaviour.

But back to the point, if a today’s parent spank his kids in a super market and go home, he/she won’t make until home, the cops will get them first.

I don’t have kids, but I was one, and I’ve seen a lot of kids growing up, and by far as I can remember, nobody in my generation have any psychological problem regarding being spanked, neither I.

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