Growing Marijuana and where to Move? Done with TECH

[Learn2L8Participant 86]

Where would be the BEST place to pack up, move to, and legally grow medical Marijuana? I am concerned about that market becoming saturated if I don’t hurry and get on the ball before everyone is doing it.

What should I except both good and bad? I know this is NOT a WEED FORUM, but my observations here at MGTOW are that people here are rather intelligent.

Due to job struggles, and corrupt competition, I am losing interest and spirit in working with technology for other people, and after repairing computers, TV sets, and audio amps for a year at a TV shop and being exploited and disrespected, by both the owner, AND by customers, I want to get back to growing Marijuana again, and maybe even other plants for a living. I simply enjoyed it much more.

I am REALLY good with electronics, and computers, my soldering skills are top notch, I have an AS degree, (stopped before getting more debt) and many years of experience, but after mistreatment from people over the years, I don’t feel they DESERVE my skills, or my repair work anymore. The money has not been as good as I had intended either.

Other MAJOR reason, is most computer repair guys or shop owners are a bunch of WEIRD NERDS that only know how to install Windows, plug in wires, and swap parts, and don’t know S~~~, but are excellent bulls~~~ters! Customers get fooled by these phony guys, but yet I do not get a GOOD job setting up networks, or repairing computers/electronics. I just don’t fit the geeky stereotype people expect. I’m nearly over it.

What state/city/country should I start? I want to do it medically, because prices are high and profitable, and my tech skills are a MUST for growing GOOD POT! I have designed some killer growboxes using electronic fan controls, safety light shutoffs, and I am excellent with nutes and trimming and drying.

Anybody have ideas, or do I just need to smoke a joint, and stick with electronics/computers?

[ChuddoxParticipant 585]

Colorado seems, on the surface, the best choice, since its legal for casual use as well as medical. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

[MENGINEERParticipant 583]

A lot of places are going thru a green boom in the States..

California Colorado have always been huge but my recent trips to Vegas and Alaska are 21+ canna card friendly also.

Building or selling DIY growboxes is a market its really more about where you would like to live..

[Learn2L8Participant 86]

I am in Tennessee, now going on 3 years, and I am over it. I know Colorado is booming, but I have never been there before, I don’t know if Colorado is a good place, or just a dump where you have to stay high to keep your sanity, like it is in Tennessee.

The demand for pot here is very high , but prices are way low, and of course, it is illegal here. People here are NOSEY++ and I don’t know how I could get away with it here. EVERYBODY wants to know what you do behind closed doors here, no matter where you go.

[ChuddoxParticipant 585]

Be careful, no matter what you choose to do. Regardless of state law it is still FEDERALLY illegal.

“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.” - Robert E. Howard

[Anonymous 42]

Chuddox wrote:

Regardless of state law it is still FEDERALLY illegal.

Good point! Stay under the radar!No more than 49 plants (if you chose more) no more than 99 plants! Past that you are a TRAFFICKER! no matter what the state says, under 50 plants and it’s not a federal case! Read your state’s law! Here in Massachusetts it’s 2 years while in places like Missouri it’s more time than if you held a televised rape of a child!

The weed market is in full collapse due to overproduction and ease of availability, you can get pot mailed to you over the internet no questions asked.

You’re gonna need allot more than a cardboard box with an exhaust fan and a light-bulb! That won’t even pay your Cheerios and milk bill! leave alone operating costs!

This econ’no’money is bleak on all fronts, we’re suffering from a long and arduous journey being led by the most vile and corrupt people to have ever walked the earth. You may have to do both just to survive!

If you need any high purity 2 part plant food made with human/pharmaceutical grade ingredients (no dyes, preservatives, fillers, additives, urea, or ammonium). Made from all the right stuff including our bloom booster. I/we have produced a granular hydroponic/all purpose plant food that doesn’t suffer from chemical precipitation through ion exchanges that happen on the shelf before you even purchase it.

It’s kick ass!

Rule #1: Don’t tell anyone, don’t show anyone, and no photographs. What they don’t know won’t hurt you!

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Speaking as another Tennessean, I would suggest anywhere but here. Those who don’t like TN [with its low property taxes, NO state income tax, and budget surplus] should leave, and take two illegals with you. That’s the great thing about the US; if you want to move somewhere else, you can.
You might want to look at Panama or Nicaragua.

PS: If you live West of Nashville, I completely get it.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

Get a grip! Keep the tech and smoke the weed; go to ANY of the medical or recreational states in the USA.

[BeeParticipant 700]

You are already late to the party. Others have a big head start in time, finances, branding etc. Big money players are emerging that will dominate. Denver has thousands of pot heads a month moving there. The cost of living is like LA. Colorado takes a certain kind of person to live there.

Some practical suggestions…. do you want to work in the weed business or smoke a lot? Grow as a hobby? My concern would be the weed business seems fun on the outside, but it’s not fun day in and out. Plus at this point it takes about 250,000 to get started and most of them get audited by the irs.

Another poster mentioned building grow boxes. This is a really good idea. Sometimes when there is a gold rush it is good to be in the shovel business.

My suggestion would be to work in healthcare or the police/ security industries or government. Then do what you want but keep it very quiet.

[RennieParticipant]

Learn2L8 wrote:

Other MAJOR reason, is most computer repair guys or shop owners are a bunch of WEIRD NERDS that only know how to install Windows, plug in wires, and swap parts, and don’t know S~~~, but are excellent bulls~~~ters! Customers get fooled by these phony guys.

Yeah that’s the problem with that stuff. It’s at the point now where you don’t actually need to know anything anymore, it’s almost fire and forget now.

Not like it was in bygone years.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

Learn2L8 wrote:

but after mistreatment from people over the years, I don’t feel they DESERVE my skills, or my repair work anymore. The money has not been as good as I had intended either.

Congratulations. You just described pretty much EVERY JOB ON EARTH. My advice is to suck it up and get over it. Assholes are going to use and abuse you and you’ll be lucky to save up a nice little nest egg before you bite it. Everyone else is in the same boat.

Learn2L8 wrote:

Other MAJOR reason, is most computer repair guys or shop owners are a bunch of WEIRD NERDS that only know how to install Windows, plug in wires, and swap parts, and don’t know S~~~, but are excellent bulls~~~ters! Customers get fooled by these phony guys, but yet I do not get a GOOD job setting up networks, or repairing computers/electronics. I just don’t fit the geeky stereotype people expect. I’m nearly over it.

As a computer technician myself, I can say this is 100% accurate. I’m a business owner and frankly that’s the only way to make it in this industry (and pretty much every industry). You will NOT make it working for someone else.

Most other technicians I meet are beyond stupid. All they do is nuke n’ pave systems and swap out parts. They’re unfriendly, anti-social, and generally unpleasant to be around. Thankfully I don’t fit that geek stereotype either. I’m a great people person and I run a thriving business.

As for other technicians not knowing how to solder, get used to it. The main reason is it isn’t worth it for the business owner to learn that. As business owners, our main responsibility is to run the business. Doing work ourselves is secondary. It’s much smarter for us to pay someone like you peanuts to do the hard s~~~ for us.

If you can start your own business, DO IT. The problem isn’t your employer. It’s the logistics of it. I can’t pay more than $50 – $70 to get board level work done and still run a profitable business. The problem is, you’re living in the poor house on those wages. But there’s nothing I can do about it. It’s not like the heydays of the 80’s and 90’s where people spent $1,000 to fix their computers. Margins are razor thin and the government steals more than half of everything you make. At the end of the year I can have $1,000,000 in revenue and take home about $120,000 of that if I’m lucky. If the government didn’t ass rape me so badly I could take home more like $260,000

[Learn2L8Participant 86]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Speaking as another Tennessean, I would suggest anywhere but here. Those who don’t like TN [with its low property taxes, NO state income tax, and budget surplus] should leave, and take two illegals with you. That’s the great thing about the US; if you want to move somewhere else, you can. You might want to look at Panama or Nicaragua.
PS: If you live West of Nashville, I completely get it.

Thanks for your “help”….Tennessee Pride is alive and well. Pride in ANY state is arrogant and stupid.

BTW, I’m in EAST Tennessee. Been from Bristol to Maryville, and everywhere in between. Traveled as far west as Tipton as well.

Tennessee IS one if the most BEAUTIFUL places in the US, and sure has its advantages, and I was drawn here by the beauty of this place…mountains, weather, and the CLASSIC CARS! Believe it or not, I LIKE IT HERE……….except……..

HERE is the problem – people are crooked and mean and aim to make your life hell if you are starting out here, or don’t look like or talk like you’re from “round here” and then tell you to go somewhere else. THAT is the problem. TN folks cause trouble for you, nose in your business, then tell you to leave.

It is not Tennessee itself, is it is the PEOPLE that are fighting over this place with a BLUE PILL scarcity mindset! Also, combined sales Tax is almost 10% and the line between rich and poor is very bad, and average pay is low. Also, not very many illegals in TN, try NC or FL in comparison, and TN looks like a walk in the park.

Lets keep it MGTOW here and offer good advice, and leave the foolish pride for the fools, and NOT make this about TN.

[Learn2L8Participant 86]

DarkRyu wrote:

As a computer technician myself, I can say this is 100% accurate. I’m a business owner and frankly that’s the only way to make it in this industry (and pretty much every industry). You will NOT make it working for someone else.

Thanks for the advice. I have been planning on starting a shop here, just getting the resources available seems difficult, but you have instilled some extra confidence in me not to give up on TECH. Thank you.

DarkRyu wrote:

As for other technicians not knowing how to solder, get used to it. The main reason is it isn’t worth it for the business owner to learn that. As business owners, our main responsibility is to run the business. Doing work ourselves is secondary. It’s much smarter for us to pay someone like you peanuts to do the hard s~~~ for us.

I found board-level work to be quite rewarding at times, especially when you can tell the customer you saved them money on parts cost by being able to repair their board, which makes them feel like they are getting a good deal. Also speeds up turnaround times tremendously! I can fix some TV’s in under an hour, vs having to order another board and wait for it to arrive by mail, can charge less, and make the same profit! I can do SMD soldering and swapping IC chips with hot air, SMD reflow, as well as the usual replacing transistors, diodes, and capacitors. If running my own business, I can leave the time-consuming stuff for someone I hire, and the board repair for me, as well as run the business and can see me turning a profit. Especially repairing a $100 board with less than $10 of parts. I don’t want to sit around and do no work and let my hires do all the work, especially when it is slow. That is what the last guy I worked for done, as well as poor money management, and the doors closed just after a year.

DarkRyu wrote:

If you can start your own business, DO IT. The problem isn’t your employer. It’s the logistics of it.

Point taken. Again, thank you for your well-meaning advice. I see there is some challenges ahead, but you have inspired me to still continue in TECH with my own shop, instead of moving somewhere to grow pot. I am glad that running your own shop has been good for you. Thanks again DarkRyu!

[Learn2L8Participant 86]

You could create remote grow operations with servos and cameras.

Set it up, monitor it via computer, send in a guy to harvest.

If I were an under world dude, as in the collapse of s~~~, I would grow magic mushrooms.

Thanks, if I can’t get the shop going reasonably, I will take your advice. Managing a grow would be better than doing it all yourself.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

@learn2l8 Honestly if I were you I’d go around to all the shops in the area and offer to do their board level work. We have a guy that does rounds to every shop in the area and picks up anything that needs board level work done. Instead of opening a retail shop and having all that expense, market yourself as doing board level work ONLY. When you get bigger (because you’ll get a LOT of work), train and hire on more people to do the board level stuff.

The main benefit of this is an extremely LOW startup cost. Hell, you can do all the work out of your home. You don’t even have to do any marketing other than hitting the streets and talking to the owners of these shops. You’ll find that when you’re not an employee that shop owners are going to treat you a LOT better. They have to otherwise you won’t do their board level work for them. They’ll see you as an equal and not a pee-on. And if you don’t like their attitude, you can fire THEM.

I treat my employees very well and with respect. But I always treat other business owners and independent contractors as good as I possibly can because I want them to feel like they’re getting something out of the arrangement.

[RyshParticipant 134]

I am REALLY good with electronics, and computers, my soldering skills are top notch, I have an AS degree, (stopped before getting more debt) and many years of experience

I could see a couple of alternatives. First and foremost, do not work in the consumer domain. Forget it. There is no money in there.

Why not going for industrial customers? A consumer does not care if his device is out of order, he will just rant a bit. If an industrial production site is down, that costs A LOT of money. So the bosses can afford to cash out more if that gets them technicians who can fix the issues faster.

Next thing, electronic devices are manufactured in Asia, mostly. But that is only viable for the mass market. So what about sophisticated stuff that comes in small numbers? Doesn’t exist? It does, namely in testing facilities. Companies like Boeing or all the system manufacturers need to test their stuff before releasing it.

Since the cost of an grounded aircraft are extremely high (it can’t earn the money it cost), there is an incentive for decent testing, plus the regulations that mandate thorough testing, of course.

If a test rig is down, they cannot afford to let some phonies fumble around with that because that is a major risk to the whole project schedule. And they have to do all their tests because of the regulations, so the bosses can’t say “well let’s cross fingers and deliver things untested”.

If you are experienced with electronics, you might also consider to qualify in the EMI domain. That is real black magic, and competent EMI experts are worth a lot. That will increase because there are more and more devices interacting with ever smaller and sensitive chips.

To tell a little story from one of my past companies. They had a grumpy old man there, with absolutely NO social skills at all. Not only that they didn’t try to get rid of him, they absolutely wanted to keep him. He had the ability to only LOOK at a prototype board, and he could tell you right away “nah, won’t pass the tests, add this and that here and there”. That saved a lot of of expensive lab tests and sped up the projects.

When he became 65, they were legally forced to fire him, much to their regret. Guess what, they convinced him to start up his own little business (at age 65!), and whenever they needed his help, they would contract him. They were not allowed to hire him at this age, but it was perfectly legal for him to run his own business.

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