Sex wasn’t even in my mindset (I was 13 at the time) at the time as I simply wanted to do things like go to the movies, the arcade, or even go to the beach with her. It was then that I truly learned the lesson of “nice guys finish last”. Well while I had my head held high, that did not mean that I was not saddened by the revelation, so I began to analyze what was wrong with me first and then concluded that it was not me, but rather the influence gangsta rap culture had on both boys and girls. It was then I sought guidance from my mother who played both mother and father since she’s been a widow since 1985 and that’s when she thought back of what her philosophy teacher (likely wave 2 feminist) mentioned in her class.

1) Women will be over men
2) The concept of marriage will be extinct
3) The corrupt will rule over the good

Alas that is when the red pill appeared to me as I realized 2 and 3 was happening before me. I pondered my whole summer vacation on the matter while interacting with other kids and testing out other relationships, I realized that it was more of the same. By the time I was in the middle of 8th grade (14 years old), I decided to ask my fellow male classmates on what they thought about girls and unfortunately I received a lot of white knight answers likely influenced by their parents and environment. When I first became a red pill, I actually did have a hard time sticking to it which I now realize was due to the overwhelming amount of blue pills in my environment and my need to adapt during my youth. Although I ultimately did date women, I was inevitably too immature to realize the extent of the games girls and young women play. It was not until my final years of high school (I was 17) that I truly became the embodiment of what it means to be a MGTOW. I did not bother with proms or homecomings even though I’ve had girls ask me to go with them because I saw it as an obvious way for women to s~~~ game the hell out of guys nor have I ever voted for a single person even less a female for student council as that was nothing more than a popularity contest. Now as a grown man, I’ve seen many white knights in need of an awakening but some thought I was gay and some thought I was just nothing more than a misogynist. I never hated women nor sought to oppress them, infact I just wanted a woman that understands the true concept of equality in a relationship which after 26 years of living on this Earth I’ve finally found her and have enjoyed having my relationship with her for over 5 years now.  I applaud my fellow MGTOWs especially those who have been such for such a long time as it appears to be a tough path. I will continue to share my knowledge with the community and hope that we can solve this problem that is wave 3 feminism the threatens the way of life of the common man.

Great intro … thank you.

As you spend more time here you will come to understand why intros are so important for several reasons.

I’m sure you will enjoy this site and if you haven’t already … take a look around the archive.

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First I’d like to apologize for posting without introducing myself as I realize that it was rude of me.

Welcome! And no apology necessary, you did a great intro.

leobez84 wrote:

Until recently I have not realized that the term MGTOW exists even less that there are such like-minded individuals like the ones posting on this website.

I was MGTOW for years before I heard the term. My history with girls and women is a lot like yours … except you learned faster and younger than I did.

@RoyDal- Oddly enough I actually have my mother to thank for guiding me towards this path so early. She actually was glad to hear that I am a supporter of MGTOW as she is what you would call a now extinct breed of “old fashioned” women that instinctively understood equity.

I never hated women nor sought to oppress them, infact I just wanted a woman that understands the true concept of equality in a relationship which after 26 years of living on this Earth I’ve finally found her and have enjoyed having my relationship with her for over 5 years now. I applaud my fellow MGTOWs especially those who have been such for such a long time as it appears to be a tough path.

You have it backwards. Being with a woman is the tough path, nothing is more rewarding or easy than going your own way.

Even if you managed to hit the lottery and find a NAWALT(literally less than 1%), she still can choose to divorce you for half of your wealth, have you pay alimony, sperm jack you and have you pay child support, or call the cops on you for domestic violence or false rape, and nothing is done to her for these false allegations or entrapments. Her body, her choice. Your wallet, her choice. Your future, her choice.

*click* All Women Are Like That
*click* Enough Women Are Like That
*click* Any Woman Can Choose To Be Like That With No Accountability
*click* Every Woman I Know Is Like That
*click* My Dad My Brothers And My Friends Married Women Like That
*click* My Mom My Aunts My Sister Are Like That

Go ahead and spin the cylinder and put the gun to your head, I can almost guarantee you your brains will be blown out. The chance you don’t crash test dummy is the chance of a misfire or dud bullet.

hope that we can solve this problem that is wave 3 feminism

@leo-84, multitudes of men will continue to be burned by wave after wave of feminism, the solution is to get the f~~~ out of the water! Freedom is when a man realizes that he’s under absolutely no obligation to paddle the waves of feminism and risk being eaten by sharks!

Every aspect of the modern paradigm of male/female relationships has transformed male/female bonding into a black widow event for the male! Therefore the problem can only be solved by allowing the sharks to feed on each other while we remain on the beach and warn fellow brothers of the danger…. GOING YOUR OWN WAY, on your own beach, at your own pace, free of bites, free of fear, free of burden, enjoying the day, and being happy is the “SOLUTION”!!!

leobez84 wrote:

I never hated women nor sought to oppress them, infact I just wanted a woman that understands the true concept of equality in a relationship which after 26 years of living on this Earth I’ve finally found her and have enjoyed having my relationship with her for over 5 years now. I applaud my fellow MGTOWs especially those who have been such for such a long time as it appears to be a tough path.

You have it backwards. Being with a woman is the tough path, nothing is more rewarding or easy than going your own way. Even if you managed to hit the lottery and find a NAWALT(literally less than 1%), she still can choose to divorce you for half of your wealth, have you pay alimony, sperm jack you and have you pay child support, or call the cops on you for domestic violence or false rape, and literally nothing is done to her for these false allegations or entrapments. Her body, her choice. Your wallet, her choice. Your future, her choice. *click* All Women Are Like That *click* Enough Women Are Like That *click* Any Woman Can Choose To Be Like That With No Accountability *click* Every Woman I Know Is Like That *click* My Dad My Brothers And My Friends Married Women Like That *click* My Mom My Aunts My Sister Are Like That Go ahead and spin the cylinder and put the gun to your head, I can almost guarantee you your brains will be blown out. The chance you don’t crash test dummy is the chance of a misfire or dud bullet.

Snakes right, she’s bound to put a bullett in you somewhere along the way, just too many variables. You see, women cannot be grateful to a man or men in general, they lack that quality. It doesn’t matter if you shower her with gold dust and gifts galore, she won’t be grateful because in her mind she absolutely deserves it and worthy of more and more. In essence women cannot be bought, they’re just purchased temporarily like a lease. If she then becomes unhappy with you she’s now entitled to half your s~~~ and will gladly take it because in her mind she earned it by playing you. Its all a game to them.

Your outlook on life was very similar to my own. When I was younger and in my teens, I recognized women and long term dating as a colossal waste of time, energy and resources. I focused on school and educated myself until my late 20s. Then I faultered. I met someone I thought was the perfect woman. I did my due diligence. Almost a decade later I can categorically say I was wrong.

It is my belief that women, due to a biological drive seated deep in evolution, are not “programmed” to be loyal. This is rooted in a need for genetic diversity. The decision to stay with you is not logic based, but emotional based. It’s over when she decides it’s over. What you did in the past for her will not matter or gain you any sense of loyalty – that would be logic driven reason which is a male trait.

Historically, men used their surplus labor to build civilization for the advantage of their children and family. They received exclusive access to their mates reproductive resource in compensation for that surplus labour. Yet, they also set laws, rules, and regulations, that kept the illogical programming of women in check and protected their investment.

Fast-forward to the rise of feminism.  No fault, lottery style divorce, that benefit women. Essentially she gets access to your surplus labour while you have lost the historical controls that civilization was built upon. Now the evolutional promiscuity is still in play. Worse still, laws will force you to pay indefinitely once the relationship fails.

Date by all means. But entering a long term, cohabitation or marriage relationship is suicide. You are essentially placing yourself in bondage.