Gone MGTOW – where to go from now?

[onmywayParticipant 502]

Hi guys!
It’s been around a month since I first discovered MGTOW, and even though I’m extremely happy for the awakening, it has made me question a lot of things in my life, including my mission here on earth.
I turn 26 this month and am currently doing a MA degree in Digital Libraries and Information Services. I didn’t really want to do an MA, but as most jobs here in Norway require an MA just to get the interview, I thought what the heck. The tuition is free, and I’m breezing through it with only 2-3 hours of focused work a day while staying debt free. I spend the rest of my time working two part time jobs to save money, as well as doing a traineeship at the local University Library to build my CV.
I might spend 5-10 years as a normal employee at a University Library or something similar, as it is well paid and really chill. However, I’m a minimalist, spend very little, and am planning on extreme saving, early retirement and a mission in life! I want freedom more than anything.
However, I’m struggling with finding my mission, something to be passionate about, as a MGTOW. Before going MGTOW I got a lot of things done. I became really good at music. But lately I’ve found out that my true motives for doing music was the attention I got from other men and women. These days I just don’t feel like doing music, because I honestly don’t enjoy the process nor the industry at all. I like listening to great music, by all means, but I just don’t feel the need to practice and “become the best” – something that was the driving force behind thousands of hours of practice in the past. I couldn’t care less for attention and validation.
I also taught myself Japanese to fluency really fast from age 20-24. However, also that was partly due to my weakness for a particular kind of women – asians. I lived in Japan for two years, and it was awesome. But I came to realize, after a roller coaster ride through Japanese women, that they are just the same as western women – without the cellulite 😉

I guess what I’m trying to get at here is – How would you guys go about finding something you can master, something you can be passionate about, something you can be great at, without the underlying driving force of women?
The “someday, if I get better at this, I might get a beautiful wife”-kind of bulls~~~ has been the driving force behind a lot of great accomplishments in my life and I feel like an idiot for just admitting this. But hey, it’s the truth. And I don’t want to live like that no more.
But this is all new to me, so I don’t know where to go and what to do from now.
I’ve got discipline, I love hard work, and I want to create. However, at the moment I feel lost, and end up doing little productive things with my free time. I would love some advice and thoughts on books, ideas, videos etc. for finding something to dedicate your life to as a MGTOW, not as a sad blue-piller. 🙂

Thanks guys.
-littmindre

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

You’re doing everything right because you are doing it for yourself. Not some phantom woman. Your mission should continue to focus on building financial and personal wealth and enrichment. As for your observation about Japanese woman – I would say all women are the same inside – even if better looking out.

[UntamedParticipant]

Littmindre, don’t be too hard on yourself and give yourself time to digest mgtow concepts without losing your joy for life.
You’ve now realised more than half of the stuff you thought you enjoyed had ulterior motives. That’s great. It means you’re starting to look inwards and see things that bother you. That’s part of the process. As we start realising what the illusion of this society is made of and how tragically the scales are tipped it is common to be a little lost or unsure on how to proceed.
When you went your own way, you chose to put your interests and Self in your own hands. Now you have to learn to know what that Self really needs and want in order to be content. You have to find out why you want it and then how, in light of all this new info and revelations we’re presented with here at mgtow.com. It’s no easy task coming from the Blue Pill hell. It requires a whole new outlook based on convictions that need to be built in time, as you learn about yourself and this crazy world.
Be patient with yourself. Sometimes, doing nothing is better than trying anything. MGTOW is more about how you DON’T than how you do. Like
Don’t get married
Don’t shack up
Don’t be a mengina
Don’t pay for her s~~~
Don’t put up with her s~~~
Don’t believe her
Don’ be a White Knight
Don’t help her
Don’t go back
Don’t sign
Don’t be a Jerry
That sort of thing. And the Do’s are all in your benefit.
Do treat yourself right
Do earn your money
Do spend it on yourself
Do save as much as you can
Do invest in resources
Do buy properties and rent them
Do walk off if you don’t like the deal

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Dude, there isn’t s~~~ in life but the basics. Fishing, hunting, camping, farming, cooking. Hunt your own meat, fish your own fish, farm your own crops, cook your own food. I believe if you did all of that, you will find what you are looking for.

[HuevonParticipant 68]

I’ve been at that point a month ago or two. So I started a similar topic. The prospect of having women has always given me motivation to improve. So after that had broken away, I felt like I had no real goal in life anymore. Yes it’s sad, but I just have to honestly admit that.
I’ve come to believe, that our sex drive is just so strong, that it’s hard to find an alternative source of energy inside, that is nearly as powerful. So at the end, I found a way to channel this energy, to use women as a motivator while avoiding the bad parts.

In general, being MGTOW does not mean that you can’t have women. You just don’t let them f~~~ you over. No marriage, no kids.
In my case, I just went on fighting for my own freedom in all areas. Not to need much money, becoming more flexible, being able to go where I want, when I want. This includes practicing language skills as well. Just improve your life. Bring it to the next level. If you need women as a motivation, that’s OK.
Still you are working hard for yourself as a fact. Not for them. As you have MGTOW knowledge, often you will feel repelled by them anyways, because you can see through their bulls~~~. So you will feel way less urge to chase after them. As a consequence you can use that energy for yourself.
Whenever you are off well in life, women will come at you like flies. They are instinctively attracted by strong independent men. (Which they try to beak to get them under control and leech ressources from them). Just don’t let them distract you from your personal path of economical and emotional freedom and independence, and you’ll be fine.
So in a nutshell: Use women as a motivator, but don’t let women use you as a slave.

If you come up with thoughts or conclusions about your topic, please post them, for shaping a post-red pill-life is an ongoing construction site for me as well.

[onmywayParticipant 502]

Wow! Great feedback as always guys! I really appreciate it!
@untamed – that list is gold!
I guess I’ve been so used to the “do’s”, and now that I’m finally saying NO!, it doesn’t feel like “progress”, as I’m not a slave doing s~~~ for the sake of pleasing people anymore. But I’ll probably look back at this decision later in life and thank God for the fact that I chose never to get married and realize that going MGTOW was the best choice in my life for progress to take place.

[onmywayParticipant 502]

Thank you, Stealthy! Will definitely read more in the coming months! Always digging your posts!

[RoyDalParticipant]

Welcome! I am glad you found this site!

onmyway wrote:

I guess what I’m trying to get at here is – How would you guys go about finding something you can master, something you can be passionate about, something you can be great at, without the underlying driving force of women?

As far as I am concerned, the hardest job of all is mastering your own self. That is, using your rational mind to rule your behavior — instead of your passions, habits and memories. It is easier said than done.

Truthseeker82 wrote:

You’re doing everything right because you are doing it for yourself. Not some phantom woman. Your mission should continue to focus on building financial and personal wealth and enrichment. As for your observation about Japanese woman – I would say all women are the same inside – even if better looking out.

Yep. I agree with this and all the other posts following it. Whatever else you do, go your own way. Do not let society tell you what to do. Mind you, going to cross purposes with society can bring vicious reprisal. Therefore, calculate your self-interest carefully. For example, I wear clothes in public, and I obey all traffic laws. Yes, I am conforming to society’s dictates. In addition, I am maximizing my survival potential and well being.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

onmyway wrote:

How would you guys go about finding something you can master, something you can be passionate about, something you can be great at, without the underlying driving force of women?

Well, you just do,
don’t rush it
don’t fake it
You will find it don’t worry, you may be already doing it and you haven’t noticed.
Also it doesn’t have to be 1 thing.2,5, 10 if you like doing it and it doesn’t harm anyone do it.

I started swimming 1 month ago.I absolutely love it.Never thought about doing it as “the thing that’ll be my passion.”The first time i tried was absolutely random.
I was just laying in my bed one night and i though “man the water feels good when i slide trough it and i when i do it i have absolute emptiness of mind, at that moment i just enjoy it and that’s all.
i want to do it again.”
No need to “be great” at anything.(if “being great” makes you happy tho do it.)

Here’s a thought experiment :pretend that you’re an alien that has just set foot on earth.(you do have some data on earth from your blue pill days)Try to explore and enjoy as much as you can ,see what genuinely sparks your interest and do not ponder on the boring s~~~.You may be like a child that runs around aimlessly for a while but you’ll eventually find a thing.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

You may be over-thinking it and being too harsh and demanding on yourself. There’s nothing wrong with “not knowing what you want to do with your life”. Some of the most interesting 40 year-olds I know STILL don’t. Try not to put so much pressure on yourself, because all of your choices are half chance – and so are everybody else’s.

You didn’t ask to be born. So there is no need to pressure yourself to find a purpose. You weren’t born “for a purpose” so the best you can do is create one. That won’t be immediate and is also half self-discovery. Just create as many opportunities for yourself as you can.

The poorest people are not poor because they don’t have money.
They are poor because they don’t have CHOICES.

Create CHOICES and when a door opens, walk through it. As long as you focus on creating opportunities they will open things up for you. You’re gonna do just fine. When your mind starts racing about this stuff, just remember the John Lennon lyrics.

“Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

It sounds like you’re doing pretty well so far. It took me until my mid-40s to start undoing the damage that had been laid in by the whole “get a life so you can get a female because having a female in your life will make it complete” myth.

I’ve been consciously working on this for nearly a year now (I was never married and had no kids and have always lived alone so at least I didn’t have a hole to dig out of) and let me tell you, there is no destination, life is a process and the value of it is, for men, at least, in doing something, not being something.

These days I am working on the following:

Cooking – working on perfecting my raspberry cheesecake
Farming – setting up a personal sized indoor “fogponics” rig to grow leafy vegetables
Astronomy – observing the planets and stars when the weather permits
Tech Camping – everything from stretch fabric shade structures to solar power rigs
Business – I own and operate a small software development company
Gaming – looking forward to receiving my copy of Fallout 4
Socializing – meeting friends, talking about my projects, hearing about there’s, inspiring and being inspired

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