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I created this topic with the fellow younger (and new) MGTOW especially in mind.
Although, each Man decides his own path, I believe that I can clarify on behalf of the community that there is a difference between a Man truly Going His Own Way and someone like this guy.
[TL;DR— A 30 year old man rambles on about how he has been “unlucky” with women all his life. He then concludes by stating that he didn’t know he was being a MGHOW all along]
There is a difference between an involuntarily celibate man who at most times is wanting pussy & a man who consciously CHOSE to not waste (a reasonable amount of) time on it.
Going Your Own Way is a CHOICE and not a lifestyle that is forced on the individual Man.
You can’t be “unsucessful” after putting A LOT of effort into trying to access some vagina and then call it “going my own way”.
“going mgtow” is not an excuse for one’s inability to get laid.
You also possibly can’t be “going your own way” by learning female ‘secrets’ just so you can get better at THEIR stupid games in order to obtain what is between their legs.
Not all MGTOW have “gone monk”. Not all MGTOW have completely sworn off women. It doesn’t mean that the true MGTOW who are in this category (still involved with women) are allowing themselves to be used as tools for the convenience of women and society.
As a MGHOW who falls on the younger side of the spectrum, I personally have inclinations to engage in carnal interactions with my female “friends” from time to time. It doesn’t mean that I put up with their bulls~~~ or suck up to them for that reason. I also don’t try to assert control or authority over them. I either walk off or they f~~~ off (depending on the situation) whenever they attempt to pull any of their manipulating stunts on me.
There is a difference between Going Your Own Way and being bent on wanting to CONTROL females.
“going your own way” also doesn’t mean that you are learning what women are truly like in order to know how to get more attention (and vagina) from them. I don’t think that any man who is making a conscious effort to get female attention is going his own way.
MGTOW is also not a phase. I have read from a couple places on the internet where people respond to men with MGTOW ideologies by telling them that they will have a change of mind “when they are wiser”(haha).
Being a MGHOW is definitely not when you apply the lessons—that it took some harsh experiences for other men to learn—to your own life and when it starts bringing you some female attention, you turn around to state that you might not be MGTOW anymore.My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.I love women. I also think they are crazy. Even though I love them, and I have had more than my fair share, as our current society allows crazy to be in control they are too dangerous to play with.
Women will admit they are crazy. I had one I was talking to today during some business admit it. My ex said women are crazy, she would not date one.
It would be like taking a rabid dog as a pet. Rabid dogs are crazy and can hurt or kill you. I love dogs. No thanks.
I’ll cease being MGTOW when women cease having all the power. It may not be in my lifetime. I feel sorry for you younger guys.
I love you my brother but the incel’s are welcome here too.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
Anonymous18“going mgtow” is not an excuse for one’s inability to get laid.
Short of paying for sex – there is a good reason for a man to go mgtow.
I am not sure how much of ego inflation goes around the manosphere with claims of pump and dump, but most straight men desire sex. It is hard to say how much of it is projection when brothers act like pussy is there for the taking but they choose not to because AWALT.
I’d define ‘inability’ to encompass ‘unwilling’ – that is a man who refuses to sleep with a slut.
I have rejected 2 women with loose moral standards. And have bed a few that just played the unicorn card better. But I am all the more wiser for it now.
I still put myself in the ‘inability’ category simply because the woman I want to bang doesn’t exist in 21st century. So I am mgtow.
As KM says, her rejection and approval are one and same thing.
Sex is off the pedestal. So a dude with 100-notch count or a brother who is involuntary celibate – both have reasons to go MGTOW.
If it gives more fodder to those claiming ‘mgtow is for losers that can’t get laid’ then let it be.
I don’t want any brother feeling disheartened to join mgtow because it is made up for bad ass players who slay pussy. It is not. Most of it is rhetoric.
If you can’t get laid, and are feeling down for it – pick yourself up. Dust off. Work toward your goals. Be a better man. And deal with life like a man should. Pussy factor is a distraction at best.
I just left the grocery store and one of the stockers strikes up a conversation with me, I could tell he was not having the best day, hinting about difficulties at home. I could see a man trapped in a relationship he can’t get out of and a job he can’t leave because he couldn’t resist.
“The juice isn’t worth the squeeze” we say that all the time but what does it mean? Look above it’s that life that is the inevitable, is the squirt worth it? No!
Even if the laws changed tomorrow and women returned to some pleasant outward appearance would you go back knowing what she really thought? You could I suppose, but would your life still not be tainted and fake?
I love you my brother but the incel’s are welcome here too.
Absolutely! No matter what a man’s path to get here is Incel, unlucky guy with women, divorced, former PUAs, guys who saw there Dads divorced raped, whatever. We are all here, going our own way and better for it.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
Spot on, sir, you’re right.
Indeed I think that the requirement for a “perfect” MGHOW should be having had sex with at least three women (not escorts, it have to be a free thing), including at least one LTR (without marriage contract and without cohabitation, but lasting at least few months) and at least one one-night-stand with an almost unknown woman who he catched and f~~~ed in a matter of few hours.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
“going mgtow” is not an excuse for one’s inability to get laid.
A very cogent point, Akanbi.
A man should go his own way because of what that adds to his life and not as a result of what he believes to be a personal failure.
Our detractors routinely dismiss the MGTOW life by claiming we’ve made the choice we have “because we can’t get laid”. Confused men like the one you quoted apparently chose to believe that before investigating what MGTOW really is about.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Anonymous3Spot on, sir, you’re right.
Indeed I think that the requirement for a “perfect” MGHOW should be having had sex with at least three women (not escorts, it have to be a free thing), including at least one LTR (without marriage contract and without cohabitation, but lasting at least few months) and at least one one-night-stand with an almost unknown woman who he catched and f~~~ed in a matter of few hours.That’s going to be rather difficult. Women will not have LTRs with men they find sexually attractive. There are plenty of studies done on this.
One night stand and LTR are as far apart as can be.
Women will not have LTRs with men they find sexually attractive. There are plenty of studies done on this.
They will try but will always have a backup plan once they realize the guy has a higher SMV than her. This has always happened to me. I have been “dumped” for lesser men but she always wanted to keep me around as a “friend”. F~~~ that.
I find GMOW is also covers more than interpersonal relationship .. it’s living the life I want, exactly where I wish to live .. and doing things on my own schedule.
I love you my brother but the incel’s are welcome here too.
I do not mean that incels are not welcome here. I am only pointing it out that involuntary celibacy (i.e. wanting pussy but not getting it) does not automatically make one a MGHOW.
The guy in the first link was implying such with his post.
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.A 30 year old man rambles on about how he has been “unlucky” with women all his life
Agree with you there. That’s “going your own way for the wrong reasons” – to a large extent.
A helpful (and healthy) way to think about GHOW is when he realizes it’s not about “women” at all. The female is demoted to a secondary consideration at best.
A “good riddance” to gynocentrism.
• When her opinion is no longer a consideration.
• When making decisions, she is not a factor.
• When approval/acceptance is as meaningless as her disapproval/rejection.
• When “she” is no longer a primary concern.Those who imply “MGTOW are just rejected by women” that’s a GYNO-centric way of thinking in itself. It’s got nothing to do with her, and if the female factors in as a primary consideration (or motivation) then that’s “going your own way for the wrong reasons”.
Even a “refusal to interact with her” is a wrong reason.
It’s still a gynocentric way of thinking.But “self-preservation first” is a proper motivation.
That’s a big difference.Personally, even when I had a girlfriend, and a career opportunity presented itself, she was SECONDARY consideration at best. I would take the opportunity and move if I had to, and she would NOT be a primary concern.
If a MGTOW is even thinking “well I don’t have any luck or success with women”… he can stop right there. Because it’s now a fact that “success with women” actually is more about successfully identifying (and even avoiding) the wrong one.
Those who even use the term “success with women” are still thinking in gynocentric terms.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I do not mean that incels are not welcome here. I am only pointing it out that involuntary celibacy (i.e. wanting pussy but not getting it) does not automatically make one a MGHOW.
Correct.
INCELs are not even exclusive to MGTOW at all.
Young, outwardly-attractive women are involuntary celibates.
Here’s one of them now, and she makes music videos about “not getting laid” and “not getting a date”.The implication that MGTOW are “incels” is utter nonsense. It’s not a defining feature at all. What separates MGTOW from every other demographic of men is andro-centric — in the best interests of men, living on their own terms, self-preservation etc.
PUAs are entirely gyno-centric with their “Approach women!! Approach, Approach, Approach!!!!” mentalities. But wouldn’t be just as effective to say “hey, come here for a sec”? They don’t even preach that. They will cross a room to “approach” a female with a “wingman” and dialogue pre-calculated in their heads, as if simply interacting with a female is some kind of performance art or personal challenge.
MGTOW are made up of a different kind of men-tality, who actually have options – but don’t even want them. The “pursuit of women” is never at the top of the list.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Spot on Akanbi…MGTOW is a choice….
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
Spot on, sir, you’re right.
Indeed I think that the requirement for a “perfect” MGHOW should be having had sex with at least three women (not escorts, it have to be a free thing), including at least one LTR (without marriage contract and without cohabitation, but lasting at least few months) and at least one one-night-stand with an almost unknown woman who he catched and f~~~ed in a matter of few hours.That’s about 3/4 of the men on the planet.
Peace is > piece.
Spot on, sir, you’re right.
Indeed I think that the requirement for a “perfect” MGHOW should be having had sex with at least three women (not escorts, it have to be a free thing), including at least one LTR (without marriage contract and without cohabitation, but lasting at least few months) and at least one one-night-stand with an almost unknown woman who he catched and f~~~ed in a matter of few hours.ummm. NO! So now you want impose “criteria” for what is, and what is not “MGTOW”? That’s like trying to define levels of MGTOW. That’s the very antithesis of MGTOW. It’s men going their OWN way. It’s not for us to impose our will, and expectations on someone else. That’s the very reason that drove us to MGTOW away from society in the first place. That we were refusing defined gender roles, refusing society expectations, and now you want to enforce expectations on MGTOW’s…? Do you see how asinine that is?
Secondly, every woman I ever dated wasn’t worth a LTR. Which is exactly why those relations~~~s were short to begin with. I want nothing to do with wimmin because they are a waste of my time. Not because “I claim to be MGTOW because I can’t get chicks”. I have my freedom and my sovereignty. That’s all that matters. I do what I want, when I want, however I want.
Spot on, sir, you’re right.
Indeed I think that the requirement for a “perfect” MGHOW should be having had sex with at least three women (not escorts, it have to be a free thing), including at least one LTR (without marriage contract and without cohabitation, but lasting at least few months) and at least one one-night-stand with an almost unknown woman who he catched and f~~~ed in a matter of few hours.Yeah…. no. That goes against everything that is GYOW. And why in the hell would we require men willing risk their well being on some stupid sex like that to be a member.
By those requirements i wouldn’t qualify. But I also didn’t chase it before I was here.
After 1 LTR I knew the dating world was f~~~ed so I had already stopped doing that. In such a 1 sided the “man has to do everything world” it wasn’t worth it. And god forbid snowflake have to do anything, cause that’s just start a new argumemt.
And yeah I know one LTR isnt much. But the LTR gave me a lot of info about myself and what I will/won’t put up with. I also learned the type of woman I would want doesn’t exist. So why search for something that isn’t worth finding. Cause after doing all the work to find her, it would never be enough. There would always be something else, or something that wasn’t done her way. Well f~~~ em I’m doing better on my own than possible in a relationship. I know too many married men who have to work against the self destructive nature of their wives.
Would probably be easier to find Nessie, and I think there is a reward for hard proof. So make a bit on the side. But thats just a thought.
Hope that someday I may lead others the path I have learned. As Virgil led Dante through Hell.
There are many choices for a MGHOW. Almost as many as there are men here…
So many good points and truths have been expressed so far.
Keep in mind, what ever the reason a MGHOW or his purpose,
TWO Truths can exist in one man at the same time!
Meditating on the Wisdom & Truths of Man, Isn't just a Philosophy, but a Calling......Be willing to be Called a Man!MGTOW is men looking about, saying ‘f~~~ that noise’ and WALKING AWAY. No complicated definitions, just that.
I slightly disagree with the original post. In my opinion MGTOW can be a realisation that your waisting your time, effort on money on chasing a dream girl. After suddenly realising its not going to happen. Theres no point playing the white knight anymore, just to get hurt or used.
Also MGTOW can be doing whatever makes you happy for once, rather than trying to make everyone else happy.- AuthorPosts
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