Going Down with the Ship

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

Wish I’d found this place about 10 years ago (if it even existed then).

I’ve been in an unhappy marriage since the beginning. Unfortunately I’ve been programmed by society to stay on a sinking ship for the kids, b/c society tells me it’s my job and b/c I’ve been a dumbass.

When I married my wife her dad still paid her car insurance and stocked her fridge – she was 30 and I was 26. To this day she’s never bought a car or paid for anything for herself. Her dad was the happiest sonofabitch at my wedding.

Over the years she has repeatedly taken money from savings (until I created separate accounts), stayed home with kids mainly doing yoga and working out and finally she has gone back to work and is making good money, but refuses to pay for much.

Most of her money now goes to injections for her face, spray tanning, eye lid surgery, clothes, etc.

Ironically in the rest of my life I never let anyone get over on me, but I’ve been powerless against this cold hearted shrew. I cannot “make” her be nice to me nor make her contribute to my son’s tuition or be a loving wife.

I am REALLY glad I found you guys when I did. I’m headed to the lawyer on Monday.

Financially I stand to lose my ass and leaving is going to be an arduous process, but I finally realize that living like this is stupid and spineless of me.

I have one major weakness – I need poontang and despite our s~~~ty marriage, she and I knock boots every other day b/c years ago I made that non-negotiable. How screwed up is it that we have a marriage full of resentment and bitterness but still screw every other day? FML-literally.

The future holds uncertainty for me, but I the thought of not being under the same roof with this bitch is like being liberated from a POW camp.

Wish me luck, boys.

[Anonymous 0]

Look at it as changing ships. To the “MS MGTOW Freedom” More money, more peace, more harmony.

[Anonymous 42]

[bladeParticipant]

I will not even bang them anymore and neither will my dick and we are very happy now and at piece.awalt.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Anonymous 43]

divorce court will crush you. embrace the suck. in a couple years you will be rebuilt, better than ever, and she will be looking for some other dumbass to pay for new bewbs, ass o suction, eyelids, skin grafts and the latest fashions.

in the mean time stay away from the c~~~s. save yer cash. you gonna need it.

you do not need to dip yer wick, ever. not essential to living. the cost per thrust is too high. heres a video made by another dumbass like us about a bigger dumbass than you me and any 10 other people we can name

welcome to mgtow brother.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Welcome. You’re in the right place.

CombatRoll wrote:

I have one major weakness – I need poontang and despite our s~~~ty marriage, she and I knock boots every other day b/c years ago I made that non-negotiable.

This is almost every man’s weakness and the ONLY weakness women actually care about exploitating. She knows you can’t live with getting ass so she’ll put out to keep you around. All women do this, and it’s the main reason why they treat their husbands like s~~~. All the once-married guys on here will tell you the exact same thing.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

CombatRoll wrote:

Wish I’d found this place about 10 years ago (if it even existed then).

Only 2.5 years. So you’re still in on the ground floor, but it was tailor made for you. Read your terrific intro and realized + one man’s curiosity lead him (you) here, and a sleeping giant has awoken.

CombatRoll wrote:

Most of her money now goes to injections for her face, spray tanning, eye lid surgery, clothes, etc.

Once a woman hits this phase and she is used to drinking from your tap, shutting it off may send her over the edge. Remain as aware as you are now – no matter what tears or waterworks she puts on. That was MY mistake in one case…….

We had “the talk”, in bed one night , as I encouraged independence in her. “You should get your own place. Take this job. Stand on your own” etc., and the tears flowed as she faced AWAY from me. I caved and we never spoke about it again……

Until 2 years later when we split, and she says:
“You never let me be my own person. I lost myself with you.”

Everything she was once WITH me for…. she was now BLAMING me for. Paying her f~~~ing rent and bills, for 3 years and then “You never let me be my own person”. In that moment , I would have gone back to that night when she lay in bed crying, and KICKED HER THE F~~~ OUT INTO THE STREET WITH NO FEELING, HESITATION OR REMORSE.

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So, I’m telling you, no matter what kind of show she puts on, you keep a knowing, calm unaffected neutral expression like you know exactly what’s up. You’re one step ahead of her now, and if she’s too comfortable, she won’t be expecting it. Make sure you do.

CombatRoll wrote:

I cannot “make” her be nice to me nor make her contribute to my son’s tuition or be a loving wife.

It’s remarkable how women treat their husbands WORSE than if she never met him at all.

No you can’t “make* her be nice to you… but why would you WANT to? She’s your wife. She will voluntarily be nice to you because she swore to be, or she can LEAVE.

Forget “love and cherish”.
If she’s not even “nice” to you anymore, adjustments will be made.

CombatRoll wrote:

I have one major weakness

That’s not weakness. It’s just biological destiny.

CombatRoll wrote:

I need poontang

And she needs face-injections, spray tanning and eye lid surgery.
So perhaps it’s a fair business exchange?

😉

CombatRoll wrote:

How screwed up is it that we have a marriage full of resentment and bitterness but still screw every other day?

A good hate-f~~~ is hott. Nature designed it that way. We don’t need to “like” the women you have sex with, and she doesn’t need to “like” the man. It only depends on attraction. Good thing too… because if we waited around for women we actually LIKED, so many bitches out there would never get laid. It works out perfectly for everyone.

All jokes aside…..

Are you rewarding her bitchy behavior with dick? She has you thinking poon is YOUR reward. But it may be time for you to realize dick is hers.

As an employee or a business owner, when you provide a valuable service, you can expect to be compensated to a degree that is commensurate with the value of that service.

Is her sex commensurate?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[bladeParticipant]

I don’t know how ya can f~~~ someone you hate i would find that hard.Could you explain that to me i am just curious thats all.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[bladeParticipant]

I feel for you been in that situation. It must be hard for you.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[KeymasterKeymaster]

blade wrote:

I don’t know how ya can f~~~ someone you hate i would find that hard.Could you explain that to me i am just curious thats all.

Actually it’s pretty easy to understand….

The criteria for SEX to happen depends on one thing and one thing only.
The instant natural concept of ATTRACTION.

Attraction doesn’t include liking someone and often includes plenty of friction.

• Mr. and Mrs. Smith.
• Rhett Butler and Scarlett Ohara
• Sam and Diane ( from Cheers )
• Maddie and David ( from Moonlighting )
• Shrek and Princess Fiona
• Han Solo and Princess Leia

They couldn’t stand each other, but you couldn’t rip them apart.

The criteria for sex is a list with one thing on it. The criteria for marriage, cohabitation, and all that other crap is a list a mile long.

I don’t know how a man can LIVE & EAT with – and listen to – someone he hates.
That’s the part that makes no sense.

F~~~ing is comparatively easy. Especially when you realize a man has a need to ejac like he needs to take a p~~~. When you really gotta go, do you drive around looking for the perfect bathroom? No. You will pull in to the nearest greasy gas station and get the job done. You don’t need to LIKE it either… and it can be even MORE satisfying.

However Women will actually stay in bad relationships because it pays.

A man doesn’t need to “go down with the ship”.
Especially if she dried a hole in the hull of the ship he built.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

I had a grilfriend once that I shared mutual hate with. But we f~~~ed liked rabid dogs. It was dark.

Pussy lust is weakness.

Independece and freedom are Strength

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

I had a grilfriend once that I shared mutual hate with. But we f~~~ed liked rabid dogs. It was dark.

So did I. One of my first actually. We f~~~ing HATED each other. It taught me a lot about the nice guy / jerk dynamic and why it is completely futile to fall over yourself to be a “nice guy”. I didn’t understand it back then, but now that I do, I can see why it worked. I was downright cruel with that bitch and her panties seemed to fall off on their own.

Even later, I couldn’t stand her, but I would still shag her.
It was almost funny.

We got in a BIG fight once. She was a TOTAL control freak bossy bitch and she could never get away with it around me. She got so furious with me, she threw an orange on the ground and it exploded. That was the most violent it ever got, and other people found it SO FUNNY…… but we were totally into each other and couldn’t f~~~ing STAND each other.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

CombatRoll wrote:

Her dad was the happiest sonofabitch at my wedding.

I’m laughing my ass off at this statement. I shouldn’t I know, It’s cruel, but I can’t help myself having felt the joy of marrying off 2 daughters and making them someone else’s problem. My kids were good kids but they’re still expensive. The joy is overwhelming.

CombatRoll wrote:

Financially I stand to lose my ass and leaving is going to be an arduous process, but I finally realize that living like this is stupid and spineless of me.

Your kid’s age, State you live in, and net worth are huge factors in that decision. The younger they are the longer the child support, the longer they may be calling someone else daddy (if you don’t approve of the guy this will kill you with worry), and the less you will see them.
Once you decide to divorce liquidate liquidate liquidate and hoard the money. My ex did that to me and it was the perfect crime. She cashed in retirement funds sold assets (can’t split them if they don’t exist), emptied bank account and then filed….Once you file everything locks down for sorting.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Welcome to the MGTOW forums, CombatRoll, you’ve found the perfect place to help you through your divorce. There are dark days ahead for you, that’s for sure. Just remember that there is a shiny, happy new world awaiting you after the dust settles.

I’m curious to know what led you to MGTOW.com. Care to share that story?

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

Mr. Man wrote:

I’m curious to know what led you to MGTOW.com. Care to share that story?

I was on a “marriage” site comprised of a bunch of pussies and judgement bitches and a poster replied simply to check out MGTWO. I googled it. Thank God.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

Your kid’s age, State you live in, and net worth are huge factors in that decision.

I have a manchild that is 19 – living the dream off at school, sophomore yr. He’s a great kid – straight A’s, good looking and banging tons of poon. Very mature and responsible. He works summers pouring concrete (probably why he gets straight A’s). I don’t spoil him, so he values what he has.

Daughter, 11. This is going to be a problem. Whew. She’s headstrong and she already mirrors her mother’s behavior. Not good.

Thanks for all the support – In the words of Nathanial Rateliff and he Night Sweats…. “I’m gonna need somebody’s hand…SONOFABITCH!”

[The SavedParticipant 101]

Welcome to the forum, CombatRoll.

Good luck with everything, man. Seriously.

"A man's feelings are inconvenient to a woman's needs".

[Man SoloParticipant 111]

Welcome Combat Roll!

You’ve found the right site. I’ve been a member for about 2 months now and I have to say MGTOW.com has really opened my eyes as to what´s going on in the world and has helped find direction and resolve in my life.

In the short time I´ve been here, Jonny Depp and Brad Pitt have gone under. I expect to see Brad Pitt on MGTOW.com very soon, there´s no way he´s getting married again! He should start a real-life fight club ffs! This, together with all the stories on this site and some awful relations~~~s I´ve had and seen around me, has helped me to accept that relationships these days just ain´t worth the bother. Sex ALWAYS used to be top of my list, but now it´s in 4th place behind travel, surfing and playing in a band. I spend my life working on my passions and I feel great for it. Focusing on sex can end up an expensive head-f~~~.

Be extremely wary of divorce lawyers, few will want to see an amicable settlement and will try create friction between you and your spouse so that the divorce gets long and messy and they get paid more. A friend of mine followed the advice of his lawyer to go on the offensive to scare his estranged wife into submission, she came right back at him with false physical abuse claims, child abuse claims (he has a young daughter), he narrowly avoided jail but is on probation, she is in the process of wasting every penny he has and doing a very good job of it. My advice to you is try and be as nice as possible during a divorce – don´t go on the offensive. Find out for yourself what your wife needs, negotiate where possible, pay up and move on.

"Marriage is a good way to meet someone you hate and then buy them a house'

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

Man Solo wrote:

Welcome Combat Roll!

Be extremely wary of divorce lawyers, few will want to see an amicable settlement and will try create friction between you and your spouse so that the divorce gets long and messy and they get paid more. A friend of mine followed the advice of his lawyer to go on the offensive to scare his estranged wife into submission, she came right back at him with false physical abuse claims, child abuse claims (he has a young daughter), he narrowly avoided jail but is on probation, she is in the process of wasting every penny he has and doing a very good job of it. My advice to you is try and be as nice as possible during a divorce – don´t go on the offensive. Find out for yourself what your wife needs, negotiate where possible, pay up and move on.

Thanks for the welcome and encouragement. The lawyer I consulted has been practicing 30 years and is expensive. She suggested exactly what you did – make an offer and settle amicably or else fight, She (the lawyer) gets rich and we spend a ton of money and settle for roughly what we would have settled for anyway.

I’m easing into this and being strategic. Sad to say, but if I make an offer and she goes bat s~~~ crazy and wants alimony, etc I’ll just say, “F~~~ it, I’ll stay and we’ll live in misery”. Then I’ll dig in, hunker down and start working on a plan “B” (whatever that is).

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

F~~~ man, hang in there brotha.

CombatRoll wrote:

Sad to say, but if I make an offer and she goes bat s~~~ crazy and wants alimony, etc I’ll just say, “F~~~ it, I’ll stay and we’ll live in misery”. Then I’ll dig in, hunker down and start working on a plan “B” (whatever that is).

Hardest thing will be to think selfish, and have no mercy. They will not have mercy…trust me

The ONLY way to go through this is from a position of strength. Find out what that is.

Quit your job?

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