Global population

[ManocalypseParticipant 321]

According to this, the global population growth is slowing down and yikes! It’s slowing down the World economy…

Oooh. I wonder why?

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Link?

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Dr. SableParticipant 1064]

More women working = less productivity + more social program expenses = poorer society.

Zero Tolerance

[HitmanParticipant]

tie their tubes after the FIRST child.
problem solved.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Manocalypse wrote:

It’s slowing down the World economy…

It helps to know what they mean when they say “economy”. Usually it has very little to do with the actual economy.

[FrankOneParticipant 1420]

Fertility rates decline with increasing per capita GDP. So as 3rd world countries or ‘less developed countries’ experience economic growth, fertility declines to align with rates in the developed world.

Some reasons: lower infant mortality due to better access to health care as incomes rise. Increased access to birth control with rising incomes. Increased education decreases fertility too. Development is the best contraceptive, as one official said decades ago.

Is stable population a problem for economic growth? Well, it might be if your economy has numerous underlying Ponzi schemes such as social security that require multiple young workers to support beneficiaries since the ‘savings account’ is a bunch of IOU’s. Retirement benefits for public and private sector workers are another economic time bomb. You do not want to be where Japan is now, with an aging population, low fertility rates, and prohibiting immigration, eventually the national debt is unsustainable.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Can’t add more than a +1 to FrankOne, he’s spot on. People who worry about global population levels merely need to aid development.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Good.

The world doesn’t need any more people.

Feminists are contributing to the population decline. MGTOW are contributing to it too. You know what they say about broken clocks.

I need more personal space.

If the world economy slows down then I honestly don’t give a damn.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[Anonymous 12]

As a society becomes wealthier it’s people will start to enjoy their money rather than marry and reproduce.

We are seeing that with China and India now. It’s not a bad thing as the world is already over populated and our natural rescources are stretched.

Feminism and MGTOW is also spreading so you get less kids that way as well.

[Anonymous 3]

The population could drop by 90% and we’d still be in a better spot than 200 years ago. Really I think it’s more about 125-150 years actually.

Maybe it would be a problem for the oligarchs, but I f~~~ing doubt it since they’ve been making policies the past several decades to kill off the population explosion, even though it’s still exploding upwards at an absurd rate.

I can only imagine how overpopulated the world would be without feminism and liberalism to drive down the population rate. It was something like 1 billion people a hundred years ago and is closing on 7.5 billion now. Unless we’re going to start grinding people into soylent green I don’t see how this makes sense.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Population isn’t decreasing now even when the fertility rates are dropping.

Look at it this way. Fertility rate is the no. of children per woman. So if an american woman have 1 child, and a canadian woman has two, the fertility rate of canada is more than the US.

But that doesn’t mean US are producing less children; in fact, they might be producing even more babies because there might be more number of women than in Canada.

10 american women = 10×1 (1 baby per each) = 10 babies.

4 canadian women = 4×2 (2 babies per each) = 8 babies.

So you see, fertiity rate may not directly affect world population; its the “total no. of actively reproducing individuals” within a population that makes the difference. That is why countries like China and India, even with lower fertility rates, are producing much more babies than they ever did (even when their fertility rates were higher).

Some scientists predict that world population will max out at 10 billion, and then it will gradually decline; and it will happen within the lifetime of the people born in the 1990s.

http://www.livescience.com/16493-people-planet-earth-support.html

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130404072923.htm

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Re your second article, Varun, note that the UN has been doing those ‘hi-medium-low’ projections for decades and as time goes by, the reality is always toward the low side.

As the developing world develops, fertility rates will drop as they have in the west, where much of it is below replacement levels. There will be a peak, then a decline.

I don’t think it will have anything to do with ‘available resources’, but if the end result is the same, don’t suppose it matters.

[mp357Participant 531]

i think they screw with the numbers in these “studies”. we already have a resource issue so continual growth is unsustainable. personally i think an economic collapse is long overdue, our “economy” has been on heroin since the 70’s. population decline is a good thing, continued growth forever is not possible or smart

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

Yes, I agree the population appears to be slowing from its present growth rate. There are a number of causes and implications. Very few of these people have the courage to challenge feminism as a contributing factor.

But humans have survived with far less people than is currently on the planet, just not with the same lifestyle and level of comfort. That is also what these researchers dont seem to acknowledge.

Essentially women are the cause of environmental degradation, with their rampant consumerism. Their initiation of the majority of divorces which leads to more households of split individuals with inefficient use of resources. The consequences of their entering the workforce with their useless input and accomodations society has to make to facilitate their workforce participation.

The environmental degradation is what has us all believing a decline in the population is good. It will definitely be painful for those who are depending on this current level of prosperity.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Studies of the total population aren’t actually very useful. You need to examine the data with a finer grain. The particular demographics that are declining / increasing are much more important for the future than the population as a whole.

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