Ghosting Vs. Monkmode

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Ghosting Vs. Monkmode
This is my take on it. I’m not saying it’s right or wrong just my observation that ghosting is a radically different approach to keeping your autonomy than Monkmode.

The ghost method is like a ninja who moves in and about the enemy in plain site. Interacting with her and socializing. There are some good reasons for this, but the most pressing is a Ghost can’t afford the luxury of telling a woman to f~~~ off and go away. Your job and livelihood depend on mingling and interacting. Hence, the ghost must develop a set of skills to silently blend in, be able to send positive messages and feign interest, while never committing. Always keeping her in the friend zone. It’s a tricky juggling act ,and not without it’s risks.

The Monk is dropping out completely and having none or as little contact with woman as possible. It too has its consequences. Being perceived as antisocial can close a lot of doors and negate opportunities you might benefit from.

Then there is a blended version. You’re a monk in your personal life and a ghost in your work life.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

I am a combination of monkmode+stealthmode. You can combine the two, and if you can find a balance with both of them, it’s very beneficial.

[Anonymous 42]

FrostByte wrote:

The Monk is dropping out completely and having none or as little contact with woman as possible.

Monk basically means you’re at peace with women knowing they’re not permitted in the Monastery of your close personal life, we rise from domicile everyday without the worry of being sabotaged in any direct or indirect way.

FrostByte wrote:

Then there is a blended version. You’re a monk in your personal life and a ghost in your work life.

I got news for you frostbite; each woman individually must be evaluated and processed whereas none that are rotten or nasty ever get through.

Some women pop a red flag decades apart, other look like a North Korean Mayday parade!

Enemy spotting is quintessential to your demeanor with any given women.

Welcome to the male version of chameleon where we adjust our colors accordingly and predetermine every outcome in our favor simply by how we treat them according to the true colors they’re emitting.

Men are far more superior to women and feminism has put it to the test, MGTOW has all the answers and basically ran out of questions.

With feminism and MGTOW the debate is over before it even gets started.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6405]

Objective mode ghosting allows me to be surrounded by countless people in public while at the same time remain isolated and relaxed. Monk mode, or virtual mode, allows for a full existence while avoiding the pitfalls of human-human interaction or associated relationships. Monk-lite is much closer to subjective mode (real time interaction) .. allowing me to interact, digitally, with the outside world. Going online, for me is one example of Subjective-Monk-lite. Another example would be when I send or receive 15 meter morse code with someone on another continent as a Ham Radio operator. All of these different modes give me a protective buffer from the pitfalls that traditional relationships would bring. I find no desires unfulfilled or anything noticeably lacking when living this way. To the contrary, it frees me from unwanted obstacles and interruptions ..and allows for more time to concentrate on my own interests and work. For me, total monk mode would not mean that I am spending my days in a cold stone hut on a windswept mountain. It could, but it certainly doesn’t need to .. it just means that I am not pursuing or initiating any relationships. If my Amish neighbor stops by needing help moving a tree that has fallen across his road, I see no reason I can’t get out the chain-saw and spend several hours helping while in monk mode. In theory, I suppose one could sail around the world in a 43 foot craft all in monk mode .. just avoiding initiating relationships and unnecessary conversation along the way. Having fun in the Bahamas and exploring Bimini; snorkeling among old sunken wrecks .. I assume it’s possible that it could all be done in Monk Mode.

[Symmetric MGTOWParticipant 570]

I use a combination of both.

I ghost at work, I’m pleasant, I treat everyone equally, etc… while I’m out there I do the same.

At home, however, it is my world and my rules. I’m a monk there and it is my turf. I read, enjoy music, life, work, play with my cat, delve into philosophic ideas, etc…

Home it’s where I can be myself.

But I ghost too, however.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Just kidding, Monk Mode is this:

Nice Find

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

This is a good topic, FrostByte, and it’s one I’ve been chewing on for the last few months with no real resolution in sight. Yet.

While I can see the advantage to ghosting and monking (however you choose to define those terms), the problem for me is that I’m a really social person. I thrive and am energized by human-human interaction. Once I’ve had my fill, though, I retreat to the peace and quiet of my lair where the solitude and serenity recharge me in ways that human-human contact can’t.

So here’s the crux of the problem for me: I’m becoming increasingly intolerant of women. The whiny tone of their voices; the volume of their voices; the vapid conversation; the need for constant attention; the constant finger-banging of their smart phones; the open shaming of their men. The list goes on and on. They simply suck the joy out of an otherwise good time. And I’m sick of it.

But women make up about about 51% of all the people I’m likely to meet in life, so that’s a lot of people to exclude. And realistically I have to consider excluding their blue pilled significant others as well. So who’s left? If you’re a social person like me, who’s left to socialize with if you ghost the women in your day-to-day life, and then go into monk mode when you get home?

I don’t have an answer for these questions yet. I’m still in the discovery phase of all this. One thing is certain, however, my old social habits must change to accommodate my MGTOW enlightenment.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Mr. Man wrote:

So here’s the crux of the problem for me: I’m becoming increasingly intolerant of women. The whiny tone of their voices;

Excellent reply I was hoping the thread would go in this direction so I could hear what like minded MGTOW would say.

I sit in the same place as you. I like getting out there, but I am more wary of woman after being burned and learning MGTOW. I will never retreat from mingling and interacting with them, Nor do I want to rebuke woman. I do want to protect my space and my assets knowing full well the risk. I want to be GOOD at ghosting and go Monkmode when I am home. I would like to meet more MGTOW in person and hang with them. Like you I ghost women in my day-to-day and work life, and then go into monk mode when I get home.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

I personally ghost now, because I live in a metropolis. I have multiple jobs and have to interact with women in public. I’ve always been an upbeat person so I can.feed chicks cotton candy, and they leave me alone. If I think a chick has potential to be a decent human being I’ll give her Tony Robbins style pep talks so she’ll appreciate me around but leave me in peace.

Long term thougn I’m preparing for monk mode. Own my property without debt. 2 or 3 rv’s. Some other tasty freedom items and I’ll be the f~~~in road runner, and c~~~s and manginas will have no way of pinning me to the plantation. Because let’s face it brothers’, our enemies are f~~~ing morons. God bless, and good day sirs.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[RennieParticipant]

Blended for me. Ghost at work, and monk mode in private life.

Keep t~~~s at work appeased by cooperating with them. Avoid them in the outside world, sometimes they approach you on their own and you deal with them only as long as necessary.

At home monk mode rules.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

narrow road traveler wrote:

Long term thougn I’m preparing for monk mode.

That makes another good point. Namely what does the future look like when you are in a better position to choose you mode and really shape it to meet your needs. Some of my ghosting is not necessarily by choice, but by necessity. I would love to have a home with some MGTOW friends close by, cause I like having and giving help along with buddy to just go hit a brewery with.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Frostbyte, you wrote: “I would love to have a home with some MGTOW friends close by, cause I like having and giving help along with buddy to just go hit a brewery with.”

That one sentence contains an entire life worth living. Thanks for articulating it so clearly.

[Anonymous 3]

Most of us will have no choice but to ghost. Only the truly wealthy or those that just have the ability to somehow get off the radar and survive can go monk. The system is designed to enslave.

It’s not like you have a plot of land and can work it to survive. It’s not like you can commission a boat or get a wagon or horse and seek your fortune. You are completely stuck, as the elites have taken all of the land for themselves and have restricted people from having access to natural resources. If they could, I assure you, the elites would control air and sunlight and charge you for that too.

So work as you have to, cut down expenses as much as you can, look to invest what you can, flash a smile and pretend to be blue pill and just get through as much as you can. It’s rough, p~~~es me off too, honestly I think for many of us, leaving the West would be the best thing for us. To leave and be able to heal up somewhere without the State spying on you and trying to manipulate you 24/7, true actual freedom, I do wonder how that would be.

I used to think I couldn’t live without modern comforts, like playing video games and the like, but now I think almost nothing is too high a price to get away from this misandrist, gynocentric culture.

Ironically, even women think that way and a bunch of them would go and join ISIS, but ISIS looks like its dead now (and I bet this is what really drove the elites to act, since it’s probably mostly a CIA false flag anyway). I wonder where these women will go now lol.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Anonymous wrote:

The system is designed to enslave.

Yes it is

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

Essentially ghost at work and monking at home is just being socially intelligent. People say being deceptive is inherently bad, but we often lie to ‘fit in’. What some people call ‘little white lies’.

Eg. saying the dinner someone’s wife made for you is nice when it isn’t.
Saying: “I’m well”, when someone asks “how are you?” Is virtually a rhetorical question. No one wants you to spread your misery to them.

If you want to make friends and have network connections you can’t go around criticizing people.

People are more emotional than logical, so often criticism will hurt your relationships.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[LightBringerParticipant 440]

I really hate people that endlessly promote their stuff, but this was too appropriate, I did a 30 day PURE monk mode challenge where I was doing like 500 pushups a day, running, squating, no girls/sex etc.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC85iVJRy-6wqMi2zfhWE_aQ

It was a very very hard challenge but pretty happy overall finishing it.

[ComputernerdParticipant 465]

I have no need for social interactions. If I went the rest of my life without talking to people outside of the internet, I’d be perfectly content with that.

I do keep a strong network, for job references and other things.

Otherwise, I just stick to myself outside of work.

And when I’m at work, I just keep it all professional and only talk about work related stuff with my co-workers. I’m always the quite guy who doesn’t cause any trouble/drama at work.

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