Getting further in life without the burden of a girlfriend & kids.

[IamfreeParticipant 7]

Hey guys I’m new to MGTOW and am very fascinated at how much it all relates to me. I am just making this as I’d like some advice and to hear some of your ideas or experiences.

I broke up with my girlfriend 1 year ago as I always hurt her (EMOTIONALLY) because I would always put myself before her or the relationship. We would make plans a week before and I would agree.. and then at the last minute I would go out with my boys and have some drinks.. I’m not sure why.. it appealed to me more than doing stuff with her. I was in love with this girl, (at least I think I was) she was smart, attractive and had a good head on her shoulders. But no matter how hard I tried, I could never not put my selfish ass first. I refused to let anyone eat into my time or money and it got to a point where it affected the relationship dramatically.

I sat her down and proceeded to tell her the infamous line ” It’s not you.. it’s me” She didn’t understand, but I laid my cards on the table and told her we’re over for my own good & hers.. It was unfair to string her along for years to come just because I’m unhappy in the relationship.

Moving on.. one year later and WOW! I have achieved unimaginable things I would had never thought possible! I got an awesome new job, I lost 15kg ( I was quite overweight ) Quit smoking, picked up a few new hobbies, and I am mentally stronger and wiser!

ALL IN JUST ONE YEAR!

Anyways.. what I am getting at is if I achieved this all in one year without being chained down in a relationship.. what could I achieve in the many years to come!??

I am a very stubborn and selfish person – but guys.. will this get me further than others in life that are tied down? please share your thoughts.

Please share how you all have improved yourself and your life without a mortgage marriage and kids. I’d love to know. Also any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers 🙂

[Anonymous 42]

You got an AWESOME HEAD ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

[IamfreeParticipant 7]

thankyou!

[RoyDalParticipant]

Iamfree wrote:

Moving on.. one year later and WOW! I have achieved unimaginable things I would had never thought possible! I got an awesome new job, I lost 15kg ( I was quite overweight ) Quit smoking, picked up a few new hobbies, and I am mentally stronger and wiser!

ALL IN JUST ONE YEAR!

Anonymous wrote:

You got an AWESOME HEAD ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

Wise are you, Grasshopper.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 42]

Iamfree wrote:

I sat her down and proceeded to tell her the infamous line ” It’s not you.. it’s me” She didn’t understand, but I laid my cards on the table and told her we’re over for my own good & hers.. It was unfair to string her along for years to come just because I’m unhappy in the relationship.

Lamfree, IT’S NOT YOU! Stallions NEED TO RUN! NOT GET RIDDEN!
Your X is classic modern woman material, she needs her man in a stall at all times so she can go riding and parading you around “woman’s world”, where women get EVERYTHING they want at the cost of ruining the man.

Back when women stayed home and raised a family there was no time for parades and gallivanting about taking “selfies”.

And men on the on the other hand had wide open male spaces as far as the eye can see. This new paradigm makes it IMPOSSIBLE for a man to live comfortably and happily, we’re bombarded with screaming woman on every acre of open range that one time we used to roam freely without a trace of a women. There are no more unicorns willing to give a man FREE RANGE to run his life productively instead of being transformed into a house pet and where he performs tricks like sitting pretty for the pussy.
There is no happiness for a man under these dreadful conditions, only misery, and that’s what you felt coming and never accepted it in the core of your being! You’re F~~~ing Stallion just like the rest of us that yearn to RUN FREE!

Iamfree wrote:

ALL IN JUST ONE YEAR!

Within a year of my abandoning gynocentric misery and the awful lands of Gynocentralia, I was in flight school flying an airplane, man, it was like God cut the rope and freed me from a life of misery!

I can’t stress it enough that your operating systems are in TIP-TOP SHAPE AND TOTALLY FUNCTIONING!

I had one gf that I know f~~~ed my buddy because SHE WAS LONELY and I lived in the city where my shop was and worked like a dog so I/we could have some sort of future together. Both relationships were terminated and I saved up enough money to buy my dilapidated property (at that time) and now it’s a beautiful home with all the modern amenities and a sprawling mini farm. Prowling Women seeking relations~~~s and boyfriends are NOT ALLOWED anywhere near me! I simply go galloping by not giving a f~~~ about them in the slightest way! This Stallion WILL NEVER BE RIDDEN AGAIN!

I enjoyed your introduction Iamfree! Welcome to MGTOW, Where the “real men” gather…

Hey Iamfree, soamI!

[Psl47Participant 678]

I dont think being selfish necessarily is a bad thing.
It depends from a lot of circumstances you (me) might want to be that way. And its absolutely normal

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[Anonymous 42]

Anyone Any man this far down the timeline of feminism and gynocentrism and happens to feel he’s being “selfish”, needs to cough out a little more blue-smoke and put themselves on the pure Oxygen of MGTOW philosophy based in today’s reality.

It’s not selfish when you say “NO!” to being EATEN ALIVE BURNED ALIVE!

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

The air smells sweet on this thread. A cool breeze calms the blazing sun.

A young man runs past laughing and shouting freedom.

I wish him well as he …. like many before … goes his own way.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

As a man, you need to be selfish. Everyone else is always asking and demanding things from you. But no one else is looking out for you the same way.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Iamfree wrote:

I broke up with my girlfriend 1 year ago as I always hurt her (EMOTIONALLY) because I would always put myself before her or the relationship. We would make plans a week before and I would agree.. and then at the last minute I would go out with my boys and have some drinks.. I’m not sure why.. it appealed to me more than doing stuff with her. I was in love with this girl, (at least I think I was) she was smart, attractive and had a good head on her shoulders. But no matter how hard I tried, I could never not put my selfish ass first. I refused to let anyone eat into my time or money and it got to a point where it affected the relationship dramatically.

Because she have nothing to offer you, or incentive big enough, or incentive you cannot get somewhere else.
To do something you don’t enjoy.

“We make plans a week before and I would agree.. and then at the last minute I would go out with my boys and have some drinks.. I’m not sure why..”

No she made plans for herself and manipulated you into agreeing with. If that plan benefit your or is enjoyable to you, you will proceed with the plan already.

You said it yourself it will eat into your time or money. So she make plans that benefit her that you don’t enjoy at your expense. Subconsciously you don’t feel it is right of letting her manipulating your resource for her benefit only. She simply does not put enough on the table for you to sacrifice for her. Or all her offerings you can get cheaper elsewhere.

That said we are not some feminist community that validate a woman even when she is wrong. You are guilty of eating your words for the plans you agreed to. You could have told her outright you won’t do it. Or make a plan that you enjoy too.

And yes, women is a negative asset. Not only the obvious drain on time, money and sanity. There are less obvious things like ambition, drive, investment. Use Google and you will see women spend 80% of the household income.
This job offer good pay, but it is at another state and special snowflake want me close to her.
This real estate or this bound is a good investment, but special snowflake want to buy that thing to impress her friends.
I should be trying to learn a new skill so I can earn more money, but special snowflake use up all my free time doing menial stuff, or unnecessary things because she cannot stand seeing me not spending time for her benefit.
I am trying to start my own business, but special snowflake want to be boss too despite knowing s~~~ and f~~~ things up.
I want to go for overseas assignment / overtime so I get more money, but special snowflake complain that I am not spending enough time for her.
Finally I slay a large portion of the debts, special snowflake want a swimming pool renovation that she hardly swims in, and we already have membership to use a club swimming pool.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Iamfree wrote:

Also any advice would be greatly appreciated!

DON”T stop what you’re doing !!

This may sound like a “cop-out” as far as advice goes, but when living in the blue pill matrix it’s easier said then done.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

They say when you’re married or with a girlfriend your expenses double, but the reality is your expenses TRIPLE OR MORE! Why? Because she’s CONSTANTLY buying STUPID s~~~ that you would NEVER buy even if you were a millionaire. A guy can live comfortably in a one bedroom house or apartment, a TV, computer, and maybe a video game console (if he’s not into PC gaming), and some basic food ($300/month or less). You can live pretty comfortably on $1,200/month (depending on the area). But a woman. Nah. Even if she had $12,000/month it wouldn’t be enough.

The secret is men only buy USEFUL things, and they USE them until they fall apart. I’ve purchased ONE set of dishes and I will NEVER replace them unless they break. There’s simply no need to. But to a f~~~ing woman, if you’re not changing out your dishes every other year it’s a tragedy. Women do NOTHING except spend money and consume resources. It’s even worse if you have a kid or two. If women didn’t exist this world would be a TOTALLY different place. There would be no waste. About 80% of the s~~~ our society makes is completely USELESS and is made for stupid WOMEN to buy! Men work and accumulate resources and CREATE wealth. Women use resources and DESTROY wealth. That’s the main difference between men and women and if men didn’t want to f~~~ women’s pussy’s then they wouldn’t even interact with them.

[revistaParticipant 232]

Fair play to you brother.it would have saved me alot of pain and finance if i had thought like you years ago.i was getting my haircut the other day and the barber told me about his uncle who had never married or had kids.and he suggested he couldnt be happy,but then contradicted himself by saying how loaded he was and healthy.im stealth these days,i dont say anything.enjoy your life brother and dont get shamed into changing

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Iamfree: Glad that you are here. Don’t feel guilty about being selfish and you will continue to be free. If you had given in to that girl, you would have given in to HER selfishness. Then you would not have accomplished all that in just one year.

At a young age we seem to go through that testosterone driven behavior of thinking we need a woman in our life. From what I have observed, DarkRyu in the post above nails it. Some of us learn earlier that we don’t need a woman to be happy, but for others the learning is longer and more costly.

[Anonymous 3]

Iamfree wrote:

But no matter how hard I tried, I could never not put my selfish ass first. I refused to let anyone eat into my time or money and it got to a point where it affected the relationship dramatically.

Many have said great things already, but let us go through this.

Who defines what “the couple” or “family” is doing? Women.
Who is constantly demanding what “she needs”?

So, who is actually imposing its needs on the other?

And if men do not comply with their selfcentered demands they are “selfish”?

This is a societal programming to make slaves of men.

You my friend should not feel guilty of anything more than accepting their gynocentric moral code.

More than your gf or others, you condemned yourself under this code, without even noticing that it is a false code to manipulate men.

I broke their code, but I fell into the trap they intended, the trap of a code devised to be broken. I took no pride in my rebellion, I took it as guilt, I did not damn them, I damned myself, I did not damn their code, I damned existence—and I hid my happiness as a shameful secret.
[…]
I believed that one person owes a duty to another with no payment for it in return. I believed that it was my duty to love a woman who gave me nothing, who betrayed everything I lived for, who demanded her happiness at the price of mine. I believed that love is some static gift which, once granted, need no longer be deserved—just as they believe that wealth is a static possession which can be seized and held without further effort. I believed that love is a gratuity, not a reward to be earned—just as they believe it is their right to demand an unearned wealth. And just as they believe that their need is a claim on my energy, so I believed that her unhappiness was a claim on my life. For the sake of pity, not justice, I endured ten years of self-torture. I placed pity above my own conscience, and this is the core of my guilt.

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