Get Money, Gain Knowledge, Achieve Greatness

[Schaefe89Participant 163]

GET MONEY- whatever you have to do, do it. Money controls the world. Get rich, hustle, just get it done. People and especially the ladies respect the hustle and bank account. Best part? Keep it all to yourself and flaunt that s~~~ accordingly with cars, vacations, and parties with your friends. Financial security will do wonders for your well being.

 

GAIN KNOWLEDGE- get experience. know what works in life and what doesn’t. know what works with women and what doesn’t. figure out how to excel at your job and move up the ladder bros.  having an issue with a dumb office bitch or mangina? perform the duties of the job to perfection and move them out of the damn way. the more you know, the more you grow. with more knowledge comes more rewards and better outcomes. just got dumped by a cold hearted bitch? learn from it and make sure the next bitch doesn’t play you like that ever again. knowledge breeds power, not little kids.

 

ACHIEVE GREATNESS-  get that money, learn from experience, pursue perfection. if your deserve it and work for it, the universe will serve it on a gold f~~~ing platter. time to get our b~~~~ back brothas. greatness is in reach and these bitches will all be witnesses

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

A lot of motivation for men to exceed as you have indicated has diminished in our overwhelmingly gynocentric society.

If you succeed, your spoils will be taken or extracted from you for the interests of women, whether you consent to it or not. Through higher taxation, forcing successful employers to hire women, forcing educational institutions to adopt misandric policies.

Men understand marriage is a sham for men, so they are not participating in it, and dont need to work themselves into an early grave for alimony and child support payments for children they will never see. Men may still succeed in spite of that, because we are awesome, but the cultural imperative for success is nowhere near as influential as it once was.

In each of the areas you have outlined, women are all referenced. My personal feeling is my success would never reference a female.

[Schaefe89Participant 163]

jack reacher wrote:

A lot of motivation for men to exceed as you have indicated has diminished in our overwhelmingly gynocentric society. If you succeed, your spoils will be taken or extracted from you for the interests of women, whether you consent to it or not. Through higher taxation, forcing successful employers to hire women, forcing educational institutions to adopt misandric policies. Men understand marriage is a sham for men, so they are not participating in it, and dont need to work themselves into an early grave for alimony and child support payments for children they will never see. Men may still succeed in spite of that, because we are awesome, but the cultural imperative for success is nowhere near as influential as it once was. In each of the areas you have outlined, women are all referenced. My personal feeling is my success would never reference a female.

 

I hear what you are saying man, but part of taking the red pill accepting reality for better or worst. Face facts, women play a part in our lives whether we like it or not. We need to rise above their bulls~~~. Success is achieved by the man but success is never achieved by not overcoming some sort of female agenda etc. We need to realize we’re stuck with them. Men are expected to produce results regardless of how difficult it is for us out there. No one cares about excuses. Just produce results and keep on moving man

[MadmanParticipant 772]

Hi Schaefe89 nice to have another like-minded MGHOW here on the forums. I agree with you and some others that MGTOW should have no problems being financially stable. Alot of the younger dudes have no desire to work, or they dont want to support “the system” via taxation. What I think they miss is that not working makes you dependent on government handouts, which could be exactly what they want. In my opinion a man isnt truely going his own way if he is a leech on the system.

Working men will have to support the non working men thru ever increasing taxes… Sponging off others isnt a good thing for anyone, just ask the women how its working for them.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

I prefer to maintain a comfortable balance between effort and free time. Effort to gain rewards. Free time to enjoy them.

Of course if something is neither rewarding nor enjoyable, there’s no way in hell I’m putting any effort into it.

[MadmanParticipant 772]

Thats what I’m saying. You dont need a high paying job or a job with “status”, all we need is spend less than we earn, and invest the rest. Time and freedom are the most important things.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Schaefe89 wrote:

Best part? Keep it all to yourself and flaunt that s~~~ accordingly with cars, vacations, and parties with your friends. Financial security will do wonders for your well being.

Hate to break it to you but those days are drawing to a close do to taxation and idiots breeding idiots.

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

Success is achieved by the man but success is never achieved by not overcoming some sort of female agenda etc. We need to realize we’re stuck with them. Men are expected to produce results regardless of how difficult it is for us out there. No one cares about excuses.

We are just having a discussion here which is good. I absolutely think that whatever salvation is available for the world today will be coming from men. We know that bitches got control and we are somehow more concerned with “manspreading” and fat shaming than the fact that rhinos and almost extinct. That is what bitches in power has done for us.

So yes, I agree there will be a demand for the skills men provide to pull the world out of this s~~~. The problem is there is such little motivation these days for men to actually roll up their sleeves and dig in as society has just expected them to do in the past, without any f~~~ing recognition. You say “men are expected to produce results.” This is only true in so far as a man feels obligated to fulfill those expectations. It is getting more and more difficult to bulls~~~ men these days. Educational institutions are stacked against boys, and against their success as men.

The demand is absolutely there for men to succeed, but the “buy in” is not.

[jack reacherParticipant 751]

my usage of the quote feature did not quite work out, but you all get the idea. first paragraph was the quote.

[Sam FisherParticipant 206]

jack reacher wrote:

We are just having a discussion here which is good. I absolutely think that whatever salvation is available for the world today will be coming from men. We know that bitches got control and we are somehow more concerned with “manspreading” and fat shaming than the fact that rhinos and almost extinct. That is what bitches in power has done for us.

So yes, I agree there will be a demand for the skills men provide to pull the world out of this s~~~. The problem is there is such little motivation these days for men to actually roll up their sleeves and dig in as society has just expected them to do in the past, without any f~~~ing recognition. You say “men are expected to produce results.” This is only true in so far as a man feels obligated to fulfill those expectations. It is getting more and more difficult to bulls~~~ men these days. Educational institutions are stacked against boys, and against their success as men.

The demand is absolutely there for men to succeed, but the “buy in” is not.

Nailed it on the f~~~ing head. I’m honestly thinking of moving to an island somewhere. Maybe in the Indian Ocean…

[RoyDalParticipant]

I’m with sidecar on the balance thing.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[clint englandParticipant 341]

I think it’s a case of different strokes for different folks. Some wanna make billions, some millions, others are happy to be comfortable  with whatever financial figure they deem as good for them.

I really do think though that as a base all us MGTOW must aim to be financially comfortable, as this reduces stress, gives us time and the resources to enjoy it. Which for me is the best revenge we can have on the feminist machine and all of it’s sour disciples!

I really don’t see the point of making as little money as possible to spite the system, as you’re also spiting yourself by limiting your options to live as good a life as possible. One life, make it the best you can my brothers!

MGTOW Baby!

[Sam RavenParticipant 181]

Part of taking the red pill is realizing that money is the Ultimate religion and the ultimate form of mind control over the minds of Man that has created sell-outs for honor and integrity, and enabled the mess society is in today, including magnifying the effects of gynocentrism and divorce courts, that itself was magnified by the idea that men’s worth is equal to the legal tender he possesses.

MGTOW is about walking away from society that has programmed the mind of the man since young that his worth is measured by the legal tender paper in the wallet, and how much of those legal tender he earns per month.

[Vector VikingParticipant 413]

Ladies don’t respect the hustle or the bank account. They covet it. Big difference.

Moot point once you’ve taken the red pill. My success is no longer defined in any way by any woman’s terms. If they like it, good for them. If they don’t, good for them.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Right on.

For where I was once Luke Skywalker… I am now Han Solo.

Work for the reward it brings YOU…. or refuse to do it at all.

Here’s a great video I happened upon the other day. It was profoundly impactful because I have experienced the coersion he is talking about and even left it in the comments. The timing was unbelievable because I was recently in a situation where a company wanted me to sign an employment agreement and turn me into their drone worker bitch. I refused and feel fantastic about the decision.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Sam RavenParticipant 181]

Mgtow Messenger is the guy who’s been through it all, including prison over women and abuse from girlfriends. Much respect to him and his dedication to knowledge and research on top of his regular job. Its gone hardcore s~~~e in the most surveilled, most poisoned western culture in the world, the United Kingdom.

Most would remember him as the guy who hammered Sandman for that video that got his ‘jet flyby’ intro struck down.

[experiencedParticipant]

Men are driven.  We’re wired to be driven. Unless we behave accordingly, we’re not going to be very happy. Any extra income you receive as a result of pursuing what you do to an art form level, can also be utilized as Charlie Sheen said years ago, ‘money makes things happen[or gets things done]’. There’s a lot to be said, peace of mind wise, for knowing that if a problem comes up, you can smash it and not be distracted from things you like doing.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

It is not sufficient that I succeed; my enemies must also fail.

When “[g]etting money” bankrolls my enemies via tax, I will not do so any more than necessary for survival.

“Gain[ing] knowledge” as defined by the original post has no value beyond said acquisition of money. Therefore it is also moot.

“Greatness”, being the result of the first two, is therefore vestigial. Better that one not be a good little tax mule, as advocated in the original post, and amuse one’s self instead.

[AFTParticipant 2726]

Gaining money, knowledge and greatness are all admirable pursuits. There are many other pursuits to consider, freedom, power, contentment and autonomy, just some examples, being MGTOW means I get to choose which ones I pursue.
Some are complementary of each other, whilst others are exclusive and clash. Personally I choose to exploit the synergy between gaining knowledge to unplug from the system which includes taking advantage of all the tax loopholes and gaining money via business, investments and working hard. If I didn’t have the knowledge to avoid excessive tax, I wouldn’t want to work this hard for money. I enjoy pushing myself to achieve greater success, and the rewards are worth it for me, but I accept that it’s different for everyone, and we each find our own path.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

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