Found a MGTOW post on Reddit that made me proud

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

I was glancing through the reddit mgtow forum when I ran into a topic about “do women know what they want”so I just go straight to the comment section just to hear like-minded men debate and I ran into this gem…..man I did a solo clap so I hope you guys enjoy the read. This is pretty much the answer to the forum question.
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“Totally agree. They’ll never be happy…under the circumstances:
When you think about it, American women come into a world that caters to them to the point of absurdity.
From the time they’re able to crawl, its a never-ending stream of (unearned) wheel-greasing, door-opening, handouts, perks, freebies, giveaways, services, programs, preferential treatments and favoritisms–pretty much throughout their lives.
The unfortunate fallout of all the above plethora of preferential treatment, is most women will grow to maturity without a critical foundation of self-efficacy because of it.
Self-efficacy is a person’s healthy understanding of their ability to get things done…own their own.
But it doesn’t stop there. IMO, self-efficacy sets the foundation for self-confidence, self-responsibility, self-esteem and ultimately a higher capacity for extracting/experiencing consistent happiness (in even simpler things).
So, if a solid foundation of self-efficacy is critical, this begs the rational question:
What if real, solid self-efficacy–can only be cultivated in an environment DEVOID of all the above advantages garnered by women?
Men, conversely, are born into in a world almost entirely DEVOID of advantages linked to our gender. In other words, even as young boys, in every facet of our lives, we know when we leave the nest (or are kicked out of it) WE’RE ON OUR OWN, PERIOD.
There’s NO wheel-greasing, door-opening, handouts, perks, freebies, giveaways, programs, services, preferential treatments and favoritisms for us.
Nope. Pretty much everything we acquire, accomplish and achieve is done on our own. While sobering, this, IMO, is why men–in the aggregate–tend to develop a more solid foundation of self-efficacy, which again, sets the stage for self-confidence, self-responsibility, self-esteem and ultimate capacity for appreciation and capacity for extracting happiness from even the simplest things.
This, again, IMO, is why we have or will see women who are so confused and dumbfounded, watching men in their lives extracting happiness (from within)–consistently–from even the simplest things, while conversely, she is riddled with unexplained insecurity, emptiness and discontent, no matter how much she acquires, achieves and/or obtains.
She asks, “how can he be happy with such simple things, with SO LITTLE, while I’m perpetually bored, unsatisfied and anxious no matter how much I acquire or do?”
The answer, while simple, is something she DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR:
He’s happy with even the simplest of things in life, because he knows in his entire being…HE’S EARNED IT.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Bravo …. crowd stands …. clapping … whistles … and ticker tape.

The fembots will shoot him M L King style if they find him.

[RoyDalParticipant]

This is good. Oh yes, this is good.

He’s happy with even the simplest of things in life, because he knows in his entire being…HE’S EARNED IT.

Gooder and gooder!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 1]

Holy s~~~, that was beautifull!

Bravo indeed.

Somebody buy this guy a beer. And I mean it!

😀

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Deffo one for the archive KM.

Might even get a tattoo of it on my ass ?

[RoyDalParticipant]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Deffo one for the archive KM.

Agreed … as usual.

ILiveAgain wrote:

Might even get a tattoo of it on my ass ?

Nope, no agreement this time. The “bicker factor” has taken hold on this one. Although, in the spirit of compromise, I am willing to have it printed out on a diploma type document and mounted on my wall.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Thanks for sharing the good read Mgtowmonkey. Agree with the reddit guy

ultimate capacity for appreciation and capacity for extracting happiness from even the simplest things.

This rings the most true to me. I think most men tend to be minimalists at heart. Personally I derive peace in knowing the simpler things in my life are, the less stress there is because I have less to worry about.

Women derive “security” in the opposite fashion. The more liabilities they have, the more secure they feel. “Own a home” (female)=security (male)= mortgage debt/liability. “New and latest car”= security/comfort, rather than debt obligation. New and latest clothes…the list goes on ad infinitum.

Its no surprise women perceive pleasure out of “the experience” and “anticipation” of things, as opposed to a fundamental deeper meaning or purpose.

Its like women watching sports. Theyll be screaming and yelling. Stuffing down the beer and hot wings, but they dont have a f~~~ing clue whats going on. They simply enjoy “the experience” via the ancillary benefits. Thats all it is to them, like most things.

Resident cynic.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

ILiveAgain wrote:

Deffo one for the archive KM.

Might even get a tattoo of it on my ass

Cant stop laughing lol!!!!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Keymaster what do you think? Archives?

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[NioZenParticipant 856]

That’s a damned good argument, good find & good share, thanks monkey. Proof that adversity is a wonderful teacher, I just wish that more men would see adversity as a test of character and something to be smashed through with fire and spirit, rather that curling up into a ball and admitting defeat, being ashamed and hopeless and even opting for suicide. When a man stands up for himself he is always amazed at what he can accomplish, always.

Peace brothers.

We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

Brilliant post Monkey, and what an inciteful comment the OP wrote.
It is true fellas, men CAN DO, women CANNOT.
We as men know what we can do and how we gain genuine pleasure and satisfaction from the simplest of tasks or hobbies, while wimmin have no idea of the feeling of accomplishment and achievement.
Wimmin do not care about such ‘trivials’, they only care for being the centre of the universe and deriding YOUR accomplishments and interests. They are after all, nothing to do with her, and guess what men, that is why she hates your interests, especially if your spending ‘her’ money on your interests, what is in it for her!?
This is why she always wants to do activities that can be done ‘together’ ha ha, yeah I know you’ve all heard that one!! Also she wants to keep her peepers on EVERYTHING you are doing, to make sure you have no individual freedom’s.
When anybody asks “What do women want?” just repeat after me…………….”I couldn’t give a f~~~ about what wimmin want, they have no clue themselves”
I only know that when it comes to this amazing life we humans have, wimmin have added very little throughout history, aside of knocking out chavvies for their latest beta chump.
Men invented the world, and we are made to feel guilt for having done so……..well I won’t feel guilty anymore, I am f~~~ing PROUD to be a man, who can design, construct, build, test and ENJOY doing so.
What can wimmin do? Seriously WHAT CAN THEY DO that hasn’t been set up by MEN? I’ll tell you,………..F~~~ ALL that’s what.
EVERY interest or passion I’ve had has been decried by my mother and then my so called wife, I put my dreams behind me, just to please a woman, but that’s the thing men, you CAN’T please a woman, as she has no idea about what she wants, but as long as you’re doing your hobbies and interests, she’ll f~~~ing hate you for it, if she can hate you anymore than she already does.
Young mgtow’s here, get a woman and say goodbye to anything you ever found interesting, or anything that makes you happy, she does of course want you to be as miserable as her.
Trouble is that in the local DIY store, there is the latest Jimi Hendrix, or the next Stephen Hawking, but being with a woman has robbed them of EVERY dream they ever had,……..that’s when you realise that you really now are miserable, and she has you at her ‘level’ now. You are now as much of a loser as she ever was, and the best thing is while you’re working 80 hours a week on minimum wage, you’ll remember that you once LOVED playing guitar, and after many years of practice, you were getting pretty good at it, you’d love to start playing again, but you had to sell your guitar ? to clear her credit cards and you know that you’ll never be able to afford another, better guitar to start learning again, as I said above, it’s ALL about HER, and you should stop playing with ‘childish’ things and ‘man up’ and spend your money on her, and ONLY HER.
So forget about that new 6 string, and the pleasure your got from the wonderful sounds that emanate from it, and get back to your soul destroying job and work hard.
Now, the only sounds you have to listen to is the constantly whining, complaining c~~~ that you now live with,
As for Jimi Hendrix, although he was dead at a very young age, he rose to the top, through dedication to his passion.
How many wimmin do you know who are dedicated to anything?
No, I don’t either!!

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

1000% Archives material…

Greatest answer I I’ve read…

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 3]

I have to disagree with the concept that it’s better to not have any help in this world.

The true people that never got a hand up are the homeless bums you see. Pretty much all male, and many you never see. Males have far higher rates of suicide as well, about 4x the rate of females (who just do it to attention whore). Men also have far higher rates of depression (which of course leads to suicide).

I guarantee you people that are wealthy and have life handed to them are happier than the depressed bums. And before you say that can’t happen to you, I’m sure all these men thought the same, and I pray for it not to happen. But don’t tempt fate with arrogance.

Throughout history the nobles didn’t work and had the slaves/peasants do everything. A noble couldn’t work if they even wanted to. They were clueless. But they were much healthier, much happier, led much more fulfilling lives.

And you can see it today with the aristocracy, whether they hide in plain sight or not. They live it up and love it.

Yes women have pretty much all become nobles now. Men are the slaves and serfs that are supposed to toil and labor, while women live it up. Some women become unhappy more because they get older and aren’t pretty enough to get the favors the younger, prettiest women get in comparison.

But you ask any of them to switch with men, and they’d have a nervous breakdown after a couple of days, they aren’t even aware of their own privilege. They can only see those that have more. Patero principle or something I think it was called. Women have only ever noticed the top, never everyone else.

Nowadays there’s a wave of transexuals. But you tell me, have you ever even heard of a woman becoming a man? It’s always the other way around it seems. I think a lot of these men are just broken and so try to switch to being females. The day women start becoming men as trannies maybe I’ll change my mind a bit, but right now it seems like you’re much luckier to be born female in the gynocentric West. We men are unwanted, and in the not so distant future it wouldn’t surprise me to see the governments of the world try to kill us off, especially once automation really takes hold and they need us even less.

[Anonymous 1]

@phoenix
I think you missed the point. The idea is not that not having support is better than having it. But that we are more content with ourselves DESPITE having it harder. And because we have to actually work for whatever is we acquire, what we get, despite not being much (for a woman’s point of view) it is enough to make us satisfied. It is not saying that men cannot fail, but precisely because we can, and because we know we can, men tend to be more satisfied with less. Women have it better, there is no denying, but even though they have it better are they content with what they have? You said yourself, women look up, not down.

In the end, the adversities of men makes us (or at least, most of us) grateful for what we EARNED. While the pandering of women makes them resentful what they were not GIVEN.

That is the fundamental difference between men and women.

Besides, nature doesn’t care about “feeeelings”, so although women have it better, they are far less prepared for life. It is a matter of time until their Babel tower collapses, and when it all comes down, when things don’t go as planned, who would you rather be: the one that spent his time EARNING his keep, therefore having skills, or the ones that spent their time GETTING their possessions, therefore having only entitlements?

We men don’t have much, we have far, FAR less than what is rightful ours, but what we do have we EARNED and we TREASURE it.

That is what I got from OP.

Cheers.

[Anonymous 3]

@BadKan:

I respect what you’re writing, but I just don’t think it works. That’s why I mentioned the analogy with the nobles to the peasants.

Let’s be honest, if things fall apart, the vast majority of “skills” we have as men are completely, utterly worthless. I grew up poor, so I know what it’s like. There’s violence, lack of security, lack of economic activity because supply chains and payment are so hard to have secure, not to mention people don’t have money anyway. Go to any third world country or lower class neighborhood in America and you’ll see it. Our leadership in the West has been leading us down this road for decades now.

You can’t just expect to safely walk to the supermarket to pick up food. Even when you have something, people will come out begging for it, the strong will demand it openly and take from those that are too weak to defend themselves. The older we get, and the more alone we are, the harder it is to protect ourselves. I was very strong while young and a fantastic natural fighter. But I’m old now, I know that won’t work.

Women will have it fine in that environment, especially if they’re still of birth giving age. Because men will gather around them and they can pop out kids and that’s how power used to be measured: the size of your clan. The large clans had the power to provide security and control resources.

Do you really think changing a few lines on excel is going to be a “skill” that helps survival? Even if you are a skilled hunter, and have the farmland, it’s still not going to work. You, by yourself, simply can’t do everything and aren’t strong enough to fend off all the others that want to take from you.

People always talk about the collapse coming, but I can assure you it won’t be easy. Heck even for me, growing up poor, part of the reason I was fine is that I had a large group of people always around me looking to protect me, as well as God’s grace. There was also no internet and there were way less corrupt cops around either. Not to be racist, but also we looked out for blacks and hispanics and kept them in check. Religion wasn’t perfect, but it was a bond that did work and tied the community together.

What’s going to happen now? Religion is all but dead in the West, families are dead, the State is large and powerful, and when the State can’t pay out corruption goes in and it feeds on the people.

I would say at the least, if you are sure the collapse is coming, get some supplied, get a generator, get farmland, get guns and ammo, get water, and then make sure your family and friends know exactly where you are and where to go when things go bad, so you can bunker down and work together. If you don’t have those family and friends, or can’t trust them, you are in for serious trouble. But at least if you have the guns you can go down fighting.

[ShinyParticipant 2307]

Stockpiling as we speak 🙂

Great OP.

Bigvern wrote:

As for Jimi Hendrix, although he was dead at a very young age, he rose to the top, through dedication to his passion.

The heroin that killed him was supplied by the bitch he immortalised in ‘Dolly Dagger’. The drugs that killed John Belushi were given to him by a woman too, for memory. In both cases they were of course to blame for their own self-destructive behaviour, though.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

Outstanding post sir! Great find and thanks for sharing.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Anonymous 2]

Nice find!

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Great find.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Anonymous wrote:

Besides, nature doesn’t care about “feeeelings”, so although women have it better, they are far less prepared for life. It is a matter of time until their Babel tower collapses, and when it all comes down, when things don’t go as planned, who would you rather be: the one that spent his time EARNING his keep, therefore having skills, or the ones that spent their time GETTING their possessions, therefore having only entitlements?

Yeah superficial and ephemeral nature of women is their ultimate tragic flaw. They lack the ability to delay gratification. In the words of Robert Frost, “Nothing Gold Can Stay”.

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

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