For Gargamel

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

“When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: the people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous and surly. They are like this because they can’t tell good from evil. But I have seen the beauty of good, and the ugliness of evil, and have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own – not of the same blood and birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. And so none of them can hurt me. No one can implicate me in ugliness. Nor can I feel angry at my relative, or hate him. We were born to work together like feet, hands and eyes, like the two rows of teeth, upper and lower. To obstruct each other is unnatural. To feel anger at someone, to turn your back on him: these are unnatural.”
– Marcus Aurelius

“If you are pained by external things, it is not they that disturb you, but your own judgement of them. And it is in your power to wipe out that judgement now.”

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Thanks for the kind words.

My way was disconnecting emotionally.

Once you saved your inner soul from corrosion, you can go to an all out war without getting a heart attack.

Telling TrollBill what I think and exposing the damage he already did means risking a punt.

And once you are beyond that fear, you are free to speak your mind.

Don’t want to reveal too much about me not to give the Troll too many insights on how I tick.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[HermitParticipant]

Gargamel wrote:

Thanks for the kind words.

My way was disconnecting emotionally.

Once you saved your inner soul from corrosion, you can go to an all out war without getting a heart attack.

Telling TrollBill what I think and exposing the damage he already did means risking a punt.

And once you are beyond that fear, you are free to speak your mind.

Don’t want to reveal too much about me not to give the Troll too many insights on how I tick.

Now, how about putting your name back to good ol’ Gargamel? Seeing “Gone” is a little disparaging.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Group Hug Y’all. Bring it in. You know we’re your bros. 🙂

All joking aside, we know who the home team is here. There’s always a few limp dicks in every group. Joke ’em if they can’t take a f~~~.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

Hermit wrote:

Now, how about putting your name back to good ol’ Gargamel?

I second that.

Gargamel, that was the name of the first member to reach out to me when I was brand new here. Probably doesn’t remember, my thinking is he welcomes lots of the new guys.

But it was important to me at the time, and I always liked seeing the name when I checked who was on the forums.

Whatever name you want dude, but consider it.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Gargamel:

You don’t have to like me, you can even keep assuming I am some “friend” of Old Bill.

But, I would like it if both of you stayed. You can’t let trolls control you. That is why I said what I said.

It is not about popularity or agreeing. It is about us doing our thing and giving a damn for the approval of everyone else around us.

If you stay or go, it is up to you. Just as I liked some stuff posted by Old Bill, I liked some stuff you posted.

Frank V.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Gargamel (whatever happens here) I appreciate(d) your posts. Along with the posts from all the ‘wise about women’ members – reading your insightful posts helped me (and im guessing other men here). You probably could write a book about your MGTOW life if you wanted (as Im guessing some other guys here could too). Some great music along the way too. Peace to all.

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[MACHOParticipant]

If I was to take a guess I would say Gargamel has changed permanently … so the handle Gargamel no longer fits his new moods… rather “Gone” fits him now! If I changed I too would modify my nickname. In real life it’s rather difficult to change one’s name or appearance but on here it only takes a minute.

Hermit wrote:

Now, how about putting your name back to good ol’ Gargamel? Seeing “Gone” is a little disparaging.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

MACHO wrote:

Gargamel no longer fits his new moods… rather “Gone” fits him now!

It fits my strategy to give my troll the “high” feeling of success.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 13]

Gargamel,

I’m glad you’re staying Bro,

I got some really nasty s~~~ sent my way too,

BUT I’m not budging.

Someone or something wants us gone.

No, just f~~~ing NO.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Well once you are MGTOW with everything inside of you…

You can be nicest person but when someone attacks your “family” then it is off to the races.

I grew up with generations of my parents’ cats – that came with the house…

And whenever something would threaten the cat’s kitten litter, that totally lovely and cuddly cat would go off the rails like you have never seen.

Then other cats or dogs had to fear for their lives.

Very impressive what level of fighting nature is inside your little “purring cuddly toy”.

Making other brothers here leave or shutting them up was what turned my into a biting cat.

And what I have posted on TrollBills “specially trained to insult” language is what got even a grown man like Old Sage to lose his s~~~.

He did it by “chimping” out… I miss him and feel terrible. I preferred the keyboard to do my (now) SOLO monkey dance on.

After all, we both are chimps.

That is us 2 during the break of a monkey dance concert.

My “chimping” results in a polished keyboard.

Polished from my chemical emitting and plastic dissolving fingers.

Some letters I have written to institutions and insurances have over 100000 characters, written in just a few hours.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Everything to me, is abstract, though. Some people online might think they have made me angry, by what they perceive as a reaction, but in person, I do very little anymore that would indicate I ever get actually angry (which I don’t). I think it was probably sometime in 2017 when I realized this. Maybe I’m just different, but I including emotions in my red-pilling. I took red-pilling to further conclusions, starting with “romantic love is not real” and just kept going down that road.

I’ve also realized now, that the few occasions where I seem to have an emotional reaction, are just conditioned responses. For example, I watched a sad scene that I have seen many times, and I almost teared up again. But then I realized I had seen something even sadder in a scene I had only seen for the first time. I’m working on eliminating conditioned responses, since I find any emotional responses to be distracting.

If you go far enough down the Red Pill Road, you realize nearly everything created or imagined by humans is bulls~~~. Emotions are just programmed evolutionary responses to serve biological purposes, purposes for which I no longer give a f~~~ about.

This puts me at odds with many religions and philosophers, obviously. There is no perfect philosopher for me, but I consider Marcus Aurelius, Oswald Spengler, Arthur Schopenhauer and Diogenes to be the most relevant.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Frank V. wrote:

You don’t have to like me, you can even keep assuming I am some “friend” of Old Bill.

No I am not blaming anyone to be a friend of TrollBill.

I also respected him and gave him plenty of his “stars”.

Until I was on his radar for constant criticism… Like a c~~~ never misses a beat in jumping in your face for “doing something that she had not allowed”…

And this made me sad. Not his attacks on me but what he did to other men here.

And these cases piled up inside of me…

And so I put myself up as a target by always having fun on tuna and bulls~~~ threads…

And posting sweet cats. The “cuter” and “sweeter”, the more triggering for our cat lady in disguise…

It sometimes really took some effort to search for the “right pictures” with the most trigger effect…

And when Sky-O posted that “Juice” thread with all of the explicit language in it, I filled it with things that I know would trigger him/her to hell.

It was nothing but saying stupid things like in some Frank Zappa song… But not far off if you actually had some wild internet “f~~~ing dates” before…
….

And from there, my knowledge on how to fit the pieces together started building up.

And even if TrollBill is not a pro, what he does falls nothing short of it. His results are the same.

Hurting and disrespecting KM’s “customers”. And some walk out with leaving a hole in KM’s MGTOW.com server and update bill paying fund…

And leaving a hole in the quality of the wisdom we share and spread.

Since we “Ghosties” pay to see MGTOW and tuna hunts…

… they can’t be so bad.

And I now must repeat what Old Sage said: We show other men how to verbally stand up to women. For the first time these often young men see other men stand up and defend themselves against female shaming language.

Tuna hunts can be educational. I liked them when I came here.

KM made the request not to start these things… And I honored this.

But someone else will always do this.

32 K members from all walks of life cannot be “mentally synchronized” and we have to use smart troll control solutions to reduce the problem to an unavoidable minimum.

And here is my suggestion no. 7 or 8?

KM can/should send out mails to all members like a constant reminder to announce that troll attention is not smart and ask anyone NOT to start such threads.

Back in 2017, I got his message since I was in direct contact with him after silently reporting tuna… (I smiled about Tower’s “I smell fish” and KM replied that he does not want those)

And I wished he had sent this out to ALL members here.

Maybe make a small MGTOW “ruleset” and send it out like an automated “Newsletter” once a month.

And to new guys after the registration.

Could even be styled funny (so it gets attention) and with “misogynistic” (LOL) pics in it.

Or cat pics…

Everyone here must constantly be reminded not to start tuna hunts.

Or we make a second “invisible” forum corner, only for in-fighting and tuna salad chopping.

There is a solution for everything.

We can’t rely on KM to be our 24/7 Kindergarten Cop.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Gargamel wrote:

We can’t rely on KM to be our 24/7 Kindergarten Cop.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Here is one more thing from my box of long term observations.

Why I am convinced that we are being trolled by a professional agency.

When I came here in 2016, there were tons of incidences in which a “participant” member would post some intro and try to school us.

Or shame us. These threads went on like forever…

But they couldn’t do any damage, except making us stronger.

BUT:

Since this death threat trolling via the PM system began, these cases of participating trolls and tunas have steeply decreased.

In my mind, the agency noticed that they can’t smoke us out with infiltrators since the intelligence present here is immune to what they do.

So they had to develop a plan to smoke out the top posters from here…

And then the current day trolling style began and the classic style faded totally.

That is what I have seen. Transition time around mid-end 2017.

Since that s~~~ PM trolling is active and TrollBill starts fights in close sequence… There are hardly any real posting participant trolls around. It is as if they had died out.

Both types surely came from an agency.

The question: “What kind of agency” we might never know.

But what is happening is not “normal” or “natural”

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Not natural is the fact that we grow and become more popular by the day while at the same time the participant infiltrators get less.

And we are currently facing Plan B “the agency” is working against us.

They have not given up.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Anonymous wrote:

Someone or something wants us gone.

These are the first “troll” topic threads that will be taken seriously by outside readers.

The guy who cannot stop to include you in his “death” and “will be removed” threats will not get his way.

But without someone seeing through his s~~~, he might have won.

His strategy:

Wear your spirit down, like a constant dripping of raindrops on your head.

– tiny deep psychological provocations thrown in all of the time

– caving the stone, day by day. Like Groundhog Day…

– making propaganda against you and what you post

– inciting others – no, rather “explaining” to the group why your posts are unworthy

– calling you out on personal matters that do not have anything to do with your topics

– picking on one of your “weaknesses” and then making “under the waistline” comments about it – preferably in front of his followers who then shower him with “stars” so you feel even more intimidated.

– inventing one weakness if he did not find a real one (Like he judged Travis3000 by his first few lines of text)

– twisting your words and telling other members “what you said” in a false context or completely lying. (He does have a history of apologizing, LOL)

– trying to convince the admin that what you do is not good for the site (like my evil cat pics, LOL)

All in all he would/will gently and gradually make you lose interest in posting here.

And no one will ever notice him as the perpetrator…

Many members left silently and might come back when reading this.

This is the highest anti-troll school there is. I am beginning to learn.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Gargamel wrote:

Why I am convinced that we are being trolled by a professional agency.

I agree…

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[JosephParticipant 274]

Marcus Aurelius was a cuck who was cucked by his own cheating whore wife.

He refused to divorce and disown her because he loved her too much.

When I found out this information he just turned into another hypocrite simp. Like so many other hypocrite men.

I have no respect for men who are cucks and who have no respect for themselves.

http://www.jasperburns.com/gasfaust.html

This site was sold by its original owner in secret. There is new management that doesn't care about quality. The new site is much better https://theindependentman.org

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

I hope you guys learn to get along. I hate it when people fight. So I hope this cheers you guys up. All of you.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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