Fighting an internal war.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

I pride myself in calling myself and educated person. My education has taught me that stuff like violence and hatred do you no good. You should always stride for peace and believe in the fact that at the end of the day, everything will be okay.

These beliefs has played a very important part in my life uptil now and suddenly , after I decided that I wanted to become a man going his own way, I’ve realized that I can’t actually take a step without violating my beliefs.

I’ve always been a true believer of love; my whole life I have been taught of the sanctity in human bonds and that we should protect them by all means.

In short, I’ve come to realize that most of the things taught to me were lies. Its all very hard to take in. I was promised that at the end, there was bliss, ultimate happiness. I’ve been fed the blue pill crap too much. Now its like I’m suffering from withdrawal. I know a lot of people have experienced this situation before, and have successfully come out of it. But how did you do it? How hard was it? And lastly, of course, was it all worth it?

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[OrlandoParticipant 833]

I’m just now starting to come out of my rage after taking the red pill about 6 months ago. I’m exhausted.

I think there may always be some disappointment that there is no truth to the bs we were taught. But I suspect it decreases with time. All of my relationships with women eventually brought misery. I don’t need that in my life.

I’m happier now. I’ve made goals for myself, short term and long. I believe developing myself will be the greatest reward. I gain comfort knowing my life has stabilized without a relationship.

Look to yourself for bliss and happiness and see what you can do. It’s worth it.

[Anonymous 7]

I went full MGTOW in December but followed some of the ideology in October and November.

It didn’t take to long, I even had a new found feeling of freedom.

You might still be hanging on to something.

[HitmanParticipant]

years of conditioning are the equivelant to a p.o.w. getting released from his jail cell.the red pill(s) take time to digest ..
every once in a while i burp and it comes up purple/bluish in color and , well it;s like being a kid and finding out santa claus isn’t real .
it sucks for a while and then the truth you learn frees you in a way that’s like getting a second chance in life ..like being reborn ! halle-f~~~ing lujah !..
sometimes you just hurt from the truth,sometimes you absorb the truth.sometimes you get drunk and deal with it all tomorrow.
my brother , it’s worth it. without any hesitation,i tell you it is . to live a lie ,one you didn’t even get to create is the definition of hell, of being a slave. in short , F~~~ THAT ! ..
you become NO ONES FOOL .you are now armed with something SO powerful that they want to attack..
but how do you go backwards ? you really can’t.
the TRUTH is what you got , the TRUTH shall set you FREE ..
we all have an internal war..it’s the human condition..

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Varun wrote:

But how did you do it? How hard was it? And lastly, of course, was it all worth it?

It helps to liken it to a 6 year old learning there is no Santa before the kid is ready.

I was brought up with a European Christmas which is the 24th. ( The 25th is for sleeping late, watching movies and doing nothing). There would be only “advent” decoration and cookies leading up to Christmas, but we never saw the tree until Christmas Eve. So when I was 6, I was in the bath on evening of the 23rd and called out to my parents who didn’t answer. Cold air came rushing in to the house so, half-naked I rushed to the door and found it wide open. Then I saw both my parents trying to sneak the tree into the house while they thought I was in the bath.

I was DEVASTATED. The dream was shattered. My first red-pill experience.
My mom was so upset that found out that way instead of just figuring it out as I got older.

“Don’t tell your brother” she said. Now I had to keep it a secret and couldn’t even share it? I had to LIE and PRETEND now? I didn’t like that at all.

Same thing here.

There would be no devastating reality to accept if the s~~~ wasn’t pumped into your head since the crib. It’s not your fault that everything you’ve been taught is a bunch of crap. It’s not your fault. That makes it easier. Fortunately I was always “red pill” in my attitude and even when a teacher would tell me some bulls~~~, I would call her out. I was actually ACCEPTED into a school program because of it. “That kid is aware” they said, even thought they didn’t seem to like it when a kid talked back to them and pointed out “that’s not right”.

Later in life, I got promoted at work for that too… so there ARE rewards.

I went to Sunday school every weekend as a kid. One day when I was 8, the Pastor was teaching us about “Adam and Eve”, and I said “Adam and Eve is not a true story”. He asked “what makes you say that??? ”

I said “Because in every painting……. they have belly buttons”.

His mind was blown.

So how do I handle it?
Don’t tell me the sky is pink, and I won’t have to correct you.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

Varun wrote:

have been taught of the sanctity in human bonds and that we should protect them by all means.

Pick who you befriend and you can still hold that belief.
I know some men i have no problem trusting and being a friend of for life.

Varun wrote:

I’ve realized that I can’t actually take a step without violating my beliefs.

No need to take all the steps if you don’t think it’s justifiable.Figure out what steps benefit you and take only them.
You have loads of time to think and choose, this is not a race.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

Me, Myself, and I have even had dreams where I have ‘spiritual’ cleansing battles. The conditioning is that deep. As I continue to improve my self and listen to my inner truth, Myself provides Me a better well-being. 🙂

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

It’s about teaching yourself, and there’s so much you can learn just by living. Making your own deductions, observations and all that. There’s this big noisy machine called the media that tries to tell you how to think and feel. Ignore that s~~~. You decide. They’ll just try to tow the party line, the same line we’ve been towing for years. Basically it boils down to\

Men=bad
Women=good

Ignore that s~~~. Evidence becomes harder to ignore the more bulls~~~ you see like all the divorces and how women really are.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

well society feeds us blue pill from the day were born.

the inner conflict you feel is normal and is going to fade away with time.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I would say, you can go ahead and say, FOR OTHERS, it is great that they have human bonds. Other guys have marriages that work, that is great for them. For you, it isn’t their thing. You can honor your relationships, if you like, but renegotiate any boundaries that don’t work for you. Let the other men go their own way, and don’t feel a need to impose. Focus on your own stuff.

I also believe you don’t need to get into the business of others, and cause them harm. You can also help, but you need to take care of your own things. Add a respect to the identity of others individually to any sort of collective identity.

The feeling a need to have bonds with a woman will undermine your ability to be MGTOW though, so be mindful of that. And trying to end up keeping those in the Blue Pill world happy will get in your own way. You can make or keep anyone happy. At most, all you can do is make some miserable.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

I think the comparison to the true or eventually false notion that Santa was real is very fitting.

Hmmm, now given the fact that in the States (at least from what I’ve heard) it is supposed to be possible within the court system to quite easily sue for instance the tobacco industry, once you got lung cancer from smoking or something, in theory wouldn’t it be possible as a born US citizen (and having been raised there) to sue a former school you had visited many many years ago, because its teachers back then have taught you all the wrong values..?

Just a thought here. Has anyone beyond the big pond ever tried that…?

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Ned Trent wrote:

I think the comparison to the true or eventually false notion that Santa was real is very fitting.

Hmmm, now given the fact that in the States (at least from what I’ve heard) it is supposed to be possible within the court system to quite easily sue for instance the tobacco industry, once you got lung cancer from smoking or something, in theory wouldn’t it be possible as a born US citizen (and having been raised there) to sue a former school you had visited many many years ago, because its teachers back then have taught you all the wrong values..?

Just a thought here. Has anyone beyond the big pond ever tried that…?

Well, it would have been possible. But you see people tend to forgive and forget. As for me, I woud not try to blame my past for feeding me blueberry juice. I’m satisfied with the fact that I’ve tasted the cherry sauce now, and I’m no onger bitter.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

It flowed with me until around May, when I said “f~~~ it”. I gave up on trying to enjoy the blue pill and fully consumed the red pill.

[HitmanParticipant]

. A pal went mgtow and bought some land with a pond
and is building a zero material mud and stone hut on it. Just for him.

Nice ! keep hammering stealthy, the world is yours ! freedom awaits !

[HitmanParticipant]

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

You just have to accept the truth, and take the pain that comes with it.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Varun wrote:

I pride myself in calling myself and educated person. My education has taught me that stuff like violence and hatred do you no good. You should always stride for peace and believe in the fact that at the end of the day, everything will be okay.

I’ve always been a true believer of love; my whole life I have been taught of the sanctity in human bonds and that we should protect them by all means.

In short, I’ve come to realize that most of the things taught to me were lies. Its all very hard to take in. I was promised that at the end, there was bliss, ultimate happiness. I’ve been fed the blue pill crap too much. Now its like I’m suffering from withdrawal. I know a lot of people have experienced this situation before, and have successfully come out of it. But how did you do it? How hard was it? And lastly, of course, was it all worth it?

When it comes to the whole brotherly love crap, you have to realize there is a natural balance. You have to KNOW when to apply it in your local community and when drop it and understand what Rorschach says in The Watchmen. “Men get arrested. Dogs get put down.” You can strive for peace, but know that individuals range in how you have to deal with them. The “golden rule” is “golden” because it is simply a GENERAL standard, but it isn’t universal. To think things behave universally is foolish and naive. Intelligence is different than wisdom so don’t mix the two.

I also am not saying love does or doesn’t exist, but you have to recognize HOW people pair bond, and how the gynocentric state and feminist social concepts have destroyed pair bonding. If you don’t understand how females act, you aren’t going to able to keep their immature behavior in check in any of your long term relationships. You HAVE to know that marriage in it’s current form is the main cause for why families are not lasting as long as they used to.

Yes it’s totally worth it. It eventually takes a HUGE burden off your shoulders when you realize your masculine feelings and behavior serve important social functions. People feed you that crap to keep you sedated socially.

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