Female Friends With Benefits

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

Hello folks. I have a question to ask. Would any of you here, especially the young ones get into a*relationship with a woman if the circumstances were as follows.

 

1) Cupcake makes as much or more money than you and she pays her half of the relationship.

 

2) Both you and cupcake live in separate houses and do not move in together into a same place. You sometimes meet in her place or your place or somewhere else and that’s it.

 

3) You have no intention of getting married in the legal sense or religious sense and have no intentions of having children. She has no intentions of having kids either because she dislikes them. You have made it clear that you will walk off if she talks about marriage.

 

So essentially, she is a good female friend you have sex with. A friends with benefits kind of relationship.

 

Is having this kind of relationship with a woman a good thing for a MGTOW ? Or is it bad ?

 

I am asking because I see myself with the possibility of entering into one. This woman has been a good friend for quite a while and recently we sort of escalated to making out. I know her quite well and I was wondering if it was wise to escalate it further to sex.

 

She knows that I will not be tied down, will not move in with her, will not get married and will not have kids. She knows I am, in her words, “that kind of guy”. I know that she does not like kids and is afraid of getting pregnant, delivering a baby and what have you. She is the type that is scared of needles and of medical operation. She pays her share for dinners, movies, trips, etc. Sometimes she will pay if I am out of cash and I will return the favor later.

 

She does not s~~~ on my hobbies or interests. I like to play video games, watch movies, read books and have intellectual discussions. I don’t s~~~ on hers. She likes to travel, meet people, watch movies, watch serials and what have you. She doesn’t travel to stupid malls though, she is more into travelling to natural destinations like mountains and the like.

 

She two years older than me. I’m 23 and she is 25. That’s to be expected for me since I was born on the last day of the year and I skipped a grade in school. So I am almost always 2 years younger than the people in my social group, if you will.

 

I’m not saying that she is a NAWALT, there is no such thing and she has her moments of idiocy.

 

So is it wise to enter into a friends with benefits relationship with this kind of woman or is it too risky and stupid ?

 

I would love your guys advice and suggestions.

 

Cheers.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

She’s 25 so she just floating around and the nasty motives havent hit her yet. I have learned that alot of girls in their 20’s are very optimistic about everything until the reality hits that she needs a male provider. Remember just because a women has a good job does not mean she wants to work,there are alot of married men that had wives that worked and paid until they married them or got them prego. She doesnt want kids now but do you think she NEVER wants them? Hell no.She thinks she can still manipulate you maybe trap you into pregnancy. Just be careful have sex chill and go back to your place,you dont need all that other sh&t!!. P.S. wear condoms no matter if she says she’s on the pill,your responsibility is yourself.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Darth Sin wrote:

So essentially, she is a good female friend you have sex with. A friends with benefits kind of relationship.

Then suddenly OOPS! she “accidentally” gets pregnant. The sudden rush of hormones convince her to keep it. Everything comes crashing down around your ears through no choice of your own, and you’re f~~~ed.

I’ve seen it happen.

You are playing Russian roulette and even though the first chamber was empty, you keep pulling that trigger.

If you must play that game, do it wisely. Or at least not completely stupidly. I recommend starting with a vasectomy at the soonest opportunity. Don’t tell her though. For all that she “doesn’t want kids” don’t be surprised if she bails on you the moment she learns you are deactivated.

[RoyDalParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Then suddenly OOPS! she “accidentally” gets pregnant.

Sidecar is right, and I’m living proof. One of the near misses in my life was one of those.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Executor MaxwellParticipant 591]

With the way they give each other advice the whole “oops!” pregnancy attempt has been on the rise and should not be overlooked.

That said for a 25 year old in this scenario I’d put my money on about 6 month give or take of good nature and subtle attempts to get in your head and/or gain what she sees as leverage before shifting to a variation of a “where is this going” or “I’m feeling more attached” stance.

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

So I should keep her in the friendzone ?

I supposed I should have clarified it more. We are both postgraduate students. I am doing postgrad in History of Science and she is doing postgrad in Engineering. Neither of us are full time workers. We both work as TAs and are under scholarships.

The life of a postgrad student can be quite lonely and solitary  which is probably why this even came up in the first place.

So just be her friend and not f~~~ her, telling her that I do not want to make this too complicated ?

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

Darth Sin wrote:

So just be her friend and not f~~~ her, telling her that I do not want to make this too complicated ?

The question is very simple. Do you want to risk making a child with her? Or do you not?

If I may be so bold for a moment, you are f~~~ing the top 1% of women (At least if you’re in America.) getting their higher level education (At post grad level). Although I wouldn’t marry, I’d have ZERO issue with knocking up a smart, accomplished broad like that…with either daddy’s money and her own drive, or her own drive and scholarships.

You can always avoid marriage, even if she forces you into fatherhood and gets child support. At least you’ll have mated with a Queen on the chessboard.

By all means, f~~~ her brains out. If you’re so inclined, wrap it up. If you wouldn’t be destroyed either way, and you want a pawn on the board, hit it raw and risk it, but make up your mind and stick to it.

Also, post grad in engineering means shes going to be making major $$$ because she’s able to think like a man. That might not be too terrible either. I’m not saying shes a unicorn, but there are FAR FAR FARRRRR worse women to milk for an orgasm.

[MENGINEERParticipant 583]

Women can get pregnant mid postgraduate and drop out. Don’t count your (fertilized) eggs before they hatch!

A co-worker of mine put his wife thru phlebotomy school only to say “her new job is hard” and she quit after the first month. She just stayed home after that! Imagine putting up all the $$/time..etc.

Just because they have a degree doesn’t mean they are hard workers or money makers. Got to be working at least 5-10 yrs to pay off all her debts..and all woman have debts!

 

 

 

[DoinMyOwnThing40Participant 1000]

F~~~ yeah! I would totally go for that.

Of course, the guys here have good advice for you though. Go ahead and bang her and be her “friend with bennies”. At the same time, listen to the advice of the guys here. The obvious stuff, don’t get her preggo, don’t live with her, and be aware of her “changes”. She will change over time. She is young and she will change…….she will want “more” eventually. Most likely. So be aware of that and don’t fall into any traps that you can’t get out of.

Other than that, happy banging!

Women are parasites. Each and every last one of them.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Darth Sin wrote:

she is doing postgrad in Engineering.

Which means six months of being an engineer the real world will convince her what she really wants is some man to pay her to be a stay at home mommy. I’ve seen it happen so many times I’ll put money on it. Indeed I’m reasonably confident the only reason she’s in post-grad studies is to avoid going out into the real world right now. All the real engineers I know got out into the real world, got a few years experience under their belts, and only then went back for post-graduate studies. The best engineer I know, bar none, started as a mechanic and doesn’t have any degrees whatsoever despite having hundreds of academic hours on his CV. In his own words: “Why the hell should I waste time and money on some stupid liberal arts bulls~~~ just for some piece of paper when I can be learning useful stuff instead?”

I have yet to meet a single female “engineer” who was in it out of a love for her field instead of what she thinks she can get out of it, and none of them were ever worth a damn. Hell, most male engineering grads these days are pretty pathetic, but at least the occasional one of them actually manages to be worth his education.

[NeversaydieParticipant 51]

I have one that I hit up almost every Monday on her day off from school, work and being a single mom.

She just wants a drink or two, a cuddle, some conversation and rough sex.

She gets a free meal and sex. I get to eat my meal while she text messages me really filthy messages to get the engine warmed up.

A two for twenty entrée at Chili’s and a few drinks is worth the price of admission. Its prostitution but she is easy to deal with otherwise.

 

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