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unfortunately as i have a child in common with this woman i still have regular contact. after reading up on the plethora of resources this wonderful site and forum have to offer, i find it interesting to observe and correlate her behavior with all of the known programed female behavior that has been described. sometimes i have and do point out things, in vain, to show her that her behavior is basically automated and that she’s not even behind the helm of her own actions, so to speak. for example:
i explained the difference between the dopamine and oxytocin circuits in the brain and how i’m not going to be stuck trying to game her my whole life to keep her excited.
she bitches because i won’t give her money even though she basically stole my daughter away by moving an hour and a half away where it’s difficult to have equal access. she acts like it’s been so difficult to provide for her for a whole 2 and half months. then i bring up that i did it for the baby and her by myself for 2 years and she says none of that matters now. there’s briffaults law for ya.
she’s used almost all of the shaming language tactics, the most popular now is “you need to man up” because i won’t give her money.
she’s told me how much i’ve changed since when we “fell in love” (pukes in mouth a little). all of the changes i made adhered to being a provider and trying to satisfy her wants in that way for when the baby came around. so of course she lost interest and turned me into a beta wallet.
i could go on forever i’m sure. but her response to all of this is that i can’t explain her in these concise and logical definitions and that i think about things too much in a science based and factual framework. somehow i’m just broad brushing her into generalizations that aren’t fit to explain the behavior of an individual. basically she won’t except her pre programed behavior because she’s “one of a kind.”
so i guess my question is upon your guys reflections, how many of these things can you point out now that you didn’t know right then or if you did have the knowledge how did if make you think and feel about observing it. If you didn’t know and do know now, how has it changed how you think about what happened with this past person/relationship?
This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.
Looking back in hindsight is somewhat helpful, however, the best use of the wisdom and information in these pages is to use it moving forward. You will be able to predict with a fair degree of accuracy what will happen in a given situation [with your ex GF & ALL WOMEN] and take steps to use it for your own benefit and the benefit of your child. Best of luck.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Anonymous11If you have not read this yet, please do:
The things I’ve learned here now have me two steps ahead of women at all times. What I once thought was an unfathomable mystery is now explained with the precision and accuracy of engineering and the hard sciences.
I’m watching women who used to be HB8+ 20 years ago hit the Wall hard now. That’s about the only thing that can bring most of them down to Earth.
I smirk to myself as they lament the selfish stupid things they did in our youth. I take great pleasure in having them tell me they are washed up while I have the option of getting younger women. The whole thing flips after the Wall.
I don’t tell them I’m a MGHOW and not interested in relationships with any women even HB10 24 year old ones.
You did not know you were f~~~ing an actress.She was playing a part that you would pay her for 18yrs.she applied makeup for the part.She did not change,she was the playing the part of a person you wanted to Wed.If it were me I would tell her you have changed me.You should charged with of Identity theft,because You were straight up in who you were.She wanted to change you into a walking ATM.You are trying to get back to who you were.The things you did and who you are before she auditioned for part of a women that like everything you liked and loved to f~~~ you.She thought it was a good gig.She got a kid.18 yrs child support and the whole government to be her collection agency and buy the way you pay her lawyer.Logic to a woman? It is a foreign concept.She only knows what she wants and how she .
Great read C-Pig.
Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
I’m watching women who used to be HB8+ 20 years ago hit the Wall hard now. That’s about the only thing that can bring most of them down to Earth.
So they go to snatch.com and resume their demands,
“Well sweetie, if your tactics worked so well, what’re you doing at snatch.com?”. [[why am I there? because I’m tired of their BS at restaurants, patios, any scenario where the “supporting network that they’ve created protects them and their bulls~~~ behavior. While it does cut this out, the rest is still the same old crap.]]
And then they pay for premium baloney service wherein their baloney is put right in a Guy’s face that they’ve targeted with ever advanced bulls~~~, beware.(e.g. somebody make me happy. To be followed by youdidn’t continue to makeme happy so I’ll shred you in court.”You did not know you were f~~~ing an actress.
Yes; they’re all actresses / chameleons at heart, role playing to get their pay. The younger ones think they have it down to an art form because they’re handled with kid gloves by manginas, trying to get laid. The older ones know better and are adept at the quick pullback, changing their tactic, and resuming.
If attacked I’ll usually attack back but, I shouldn’t allow the choices that they have made to cause tiresomeness in my life. If they can’t drag you down solo, they’ll attempt biting to make it easier for others to drag you down, like hyenas.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
You did not know you were f~~~ing an actress.She was playing a part that you would pay her for 18yrs.she applied makeup for the part.She did not change,she was the playing the part of a person you wanted to Wed.
Yea. That is the saddest part of this entire civilization. Women are taught to lie to everyone, including themselves.
If women were more honest with themselves, this would reflect in their personality and help the way they handle all their friendships and relationships. Making life better for everyone involved, including us men.
Isn’t it interesting that she leaves you, moves 100 miles away, but you need to “man up” and give her more money? Let me rephrase that. “I know I don’t love you anymore, and I’m f~~~ing other guys, but I still demand unfettered access to your wallet. Now man up and give me money.”
Yeah, I have one of those too. A little advice and feel free to ignore or not.
Please learn these phrases:
If you get in the mud with a pig, you get dirty and the pig is happy. She LOVES drama. And she wants to drag you into the middle of it. DON’T let her. “That sucks” is your new favorite phrase. Then turn the conversation back about your daughter. Make sure you stick to your daughter and be the best dad you can be under the circumstances, but don’t let her drag you into the mud.
Not my circus, not my monkey. Essentially the same thing. If it’s yours or your daughter’s issue, then deal with it. Otherwise, it’s her circus.
Don’t drink poison and expect it to kill someone else. There’s no point in hating her. All that does is raise your blood pressure, but it means absolutely nothing to her. You’re p~~~ed off and she’s wondering what color to paint her nails.
Don’t give someone free rent in your head. This is a tough one. My ex is a huge narcissist and you do have to think through how you are going to react to their bulls~~~ demands. But, after a while, you get good enough at it that you don’t have to think about nearly as much, and when they don’t get the drama and attention they want they will move on to ruin someone else’s life.
Good luck and please update as needed.
Order the good wine
“man up”
Is sexist and gyno-splaining.It is also sexist to make unsound move that reduced the well being of our daughter.If you are the strong interdependent woman we want our daughter to see.you need to make adjustments to your bad decision to move.Maybe shopping at thrift store and get a paper route to enhance your income.The thought you expect ME to an act of Patrimony is not something we should teach our daughter.Show her that you truly a strong independent women.Not some one has to depend on the patriarchy
Anonymous11@experienced: You’re right some of them don’t even recognize they’ve long since expired. There are still enough 50 year old blue pillers and manginas for them to maintain their delusions. A lot of them are very easy marks for pump-n-dump action.
God, I almost tossed my Popeyes fried chicken lunch just by typing that last sentence. Gobbler necks and spider veins…..
I used to hate that commercial.
Looking back in hindsight is somewhat helpful, however, the best use of the wisdom and information in these pages is to use it moving forward.
I appreciate what you’re saying and would agree by saying that looking forward is my intent. I guess I am dwelling a bit as it’s all still fresh but it’s strengthening my resolve to modify my behavior towards women in consideration of awalt. and even though neither of us want to be in the same room as the other right now, i know that i’m still Justin Case. So remembering her conniving c~~~ behavior will keep me true to myself rather than reverting back to prior conditioning.
You did not know you were f~~~ing an actress.She was playing a part that you would pay her for 18yrs.
no court yet sir but i’m preparing, possibly filing preemptively in this county and not giving her the ability to do it there. i have a child from a previous relationship where i ended up with no support and get to enjoy having him about half the time. not sure if it will end up like that with this c~~~ but again expecting the worst.
Isn’t it interesting that she leaves you, moves 100 miles away, but you need to “man up” and give her more money? Let me rephrase that. “I know I don’t love you anymore, and I’m f~~~ing other guys, but I still demand unfettered access to your wallet. Now man up and give me money.”
it’s funny how i managed to support her, the baby and my son for the duration of the relationship by myself and yet because she can’t provide for herself and the baby, i should have to fork over cash. it’s not my fault that she doesn’t have any skills or drive to be able to land a decent job. so now i’m suppose to pay her so she can afford to continue holding my daughter hostage, pretty sickening. i like my father’s advice: “don’t give her a f~~~ing thing without a court order.” the way i look at it is that it might suck to have to pay support but otherwise she will lose power. right now she wants to dictate every detail with my time in regards to the baby. if we go to court i might lose custody but my visitation will have exact scheduling and i’ll have everything else ordered as well, holidays, pick up and drop off etc, etc. that way i can actually hold her accountable, because right now my time with the baby comes secondary to any thing she feels like. and if i have to pay support i’ll just think of that as my payments to never have to listen to or care about a f~~~ing thing she says again.
This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.
Isn’t it interesting that she leaves you, moves 100 miles away, but you need to “man up” and give her more money? Let me rephrase that. “I know I don’t love you anymore, and I’m f~~~ing other guys, but I still demand unfettered access to your wallet. Now man up and give me money.”
TaxGuy-
Kudos. Love your phrases. “Not my circus, not my monkey.”
I solved her money woes. A job for a slutty ex
I’m watching women who used to be HB8+ 20 years ago hit the Wall hard now. That’s about the only thing that can bring most of them down to Earth.
I smirk to myself as they lament the selfish stupid things they did in our youth. I take great pleasure in having them tell me they are washed up while I have the option of getting younger women. The whole thing flips after the Wall.
Oh yeah…I love this s~~~. I’m right at the age now where they are starting to hit it left and right. The biological clock is ticking hard…if they aren’t a single mom already they’re in desperation mode looking for a high earning husband they probably won’t find at this stage in the game. Its hilarious simply because these women thought they had the world by the b~~~~ 5-10 years ago and were such arrogant c~~~s that when reality finally boots them in the ass it really is kind of nice to witness.
Sometimes I wonder if deep down inside they regret being such sluts in their younger days rather than trying to lock a good guy down and being a good wife, but every time I hear of another brother getting wrecked in a divorce it reminds me what a stupid thought that was to have cross my mind. The only regret they have is their failure to trick a wallet into marriage/divorce rape because for most women they can walk away with several years worth of their salary just for f~~~ing some dude a few times, saying they love him, and letting him pay your bills for a few years until she divorce rapes him…and when they’re already over 20 on the c~~~ count I’m sure throwing one in there they aren’t even much attracted to just for a big pay day isn’t all that hard for them to do.
Please learn these phrases:
Don’t drink poison and expect it to kill someone else. There’s no point in hating her. All that does is raise your blood pressure, but it means absolutely nothing to her. You’re p~~~ed off and she’s wondering what color to paint her nails.
Don’t give someone free rent in your head. This is a tough one. My ex is a huge narcissist and you do have to think through how you are going to react to their bulls~~~ demands. But, after a while, you get good enough at it that you don’t have to think about nearly as much, and when they don’t get the drama and attention they want they will move on to ruin someone else’s life.
Good luck and please update as needed.
usually i’m pretty good at self control but today i’m having some serious trouble with these solid points. basically this c~~~ has let me see the baby for about a week out of the last 2 and a half months. last weekend i saw her for about 2 hours (not my choice, obviously) and this c~~~ took her away from me on fathers day because we got into an argument. i asked to have her saturday (last night) when i got done with work. of course that was a big no, then i asked for as early as possible this morning, and again no. then it became noon and then she messages me this morning and says this:
“Violet has been very clingy and emotional bc she has 2 year molars breaking through. She wants to nurse a lot and bc held. I think being away with no nursing available and a change of scene will be hard on her. So id like to meet a little later 4 or 5. Hope you dont get too mad but thats the way its going to be, its whats best for her.”
this c~~~ thinks she’s jesus christ because she sticks her tit in the kids mouth and won’t allow her to cry. the most significant part of all of this that this idiot can’t see is that the baby is generally happier and more emotionally adjusted when the mother is not around. she is more dramatic when the mother is around so she can be coddled more. when the baby is here with us boys you would hardly see her get upset.
This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.
she is just going by the Bitch play book.It is all about control and breaking you down.Remember what she is arguing about is NEVER what it is about.You need to say yes dear and do as told.You will not earn respect only scorn for being her f~~~ boy and she wishes she had Chads child and far too often women do have chads child on the down low.She wants you is a utility that is under control.If you do or say something out of frustration or anger she will try to use it in her arsenal against you.The best answer is never put your dick in it.It is too late for that but always remember men are stupid and women are crazy.Let MGTOW coach you up.Don’t get drawn into emotional battles women love drama.Men are better at strategical thinking.Women have play book that is short is sighted.The first thing nothing gets in their wheel house like not get involved in their drama and need for being the center of your attention. “Honey lets not talk about this when your so emotional” ,”Lets wait until you calm down we can talk about just the facts with out having the emotions get in the way” The last thing women want to do is talk about the facts and not let emotions get in the way.Not no but hell no,she does not want to talk about fact and logic’s.She wants to pull down into the emotional mud where facts,and logic are illegal and kick your ass .She is using your child to beat you into submission.Ask how many times a women has used this to manipulate to her power.Lil JR or sissy had a cold and I don’t think it is good for you to take her to where you have made plans and money to have a special time with your child. This is a time where a lot of guys get charged domestic valance or sex abuse.As Patrick Swaysey said in road house Always be nice and be smart .
Sorry you have to deal with that s~~~. What do women do when the chips are down? When you have to nut up or shut up? When you have to put your money where your mouth is?
she’s used almost all of the shaming language tactics, the most popular now is “you need to man up” because i won’t give her money.
She starts crying like a child, falls to the floor and asks a man to fix it for her. Girl power.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
Please learn these phrases:
Don’t drink poison and expect it to kill someone else. There’s no point in hating her. All that does is raise your blood pressure, but it means absolutely nothing to her. You’re p~~~ed off and she’s wondering what color to paint her nails.
Don’t give someone free rent in your head. This is a tough one. My ex is a huge narcissist and you do have to think through how you are going to react to their bulls~~~ demands. But, after a while, you get good enough at it that you don’t have to think about nearly as much, and when they don’t get the drama and attention they want they will move on to ruin someone else’s life.
Good luck and please update as needed.
usually i’m pretty good at self control but today i’m having some serious trouble with these solid points. basically this c~~~ has let me see the baby for about a week out of the last 2 and a half months. last weekend i saw her for about 2 hours (not my choice, obviously) and this c~~~ took her away from me on fathers day because we got into an argument. i asked to have her saturday (last night) when i got done with work. of course that was a big no, then i asked for as early as possible this morning, and again no. then it became noon and then she messages me this morning and says this:
“Violet has been very clingy and emotional bc she has 2 year molars breaking through. She wants to nurse a lot and bc held. I think being away with no nursing available and a change of scene will be hard on her. So id like to meet a little later 4 or 5. Hope you dont get too mad but thats the way its going to be, its whats best for her.”
this c~~~ thinks she’s jesus christ because she sticks her tit in the kids mouth and won’t allow her to cry. the most significant part of all of this that this idiot can’t see is that the baby is generally happier and more emotionally adjusted when the mother is not around. she is more dramatic when the mother is around so she can be coddled more. when the baby is here with us boys you would hardly see her get upset.
Document, document, document.
It is worth it. Date/time/quote, save all texts-ALL of them.
Try to communicate via email.
If this continues or gets worse[my money is on that] you will not regret having all of it documented.
She’ll otherwise let you see your kid less and less and then have the gall to use it against you."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
she is just going by the Bitch play book.It is all about control and breaking you down.Remember what she is arguing about is NEVER what it is about.
yes sir, i understand the game alright and i appreciate you reinforcing all of these excellent points. I guess right now even though I get it, I’m just letting her rattle me a little too much. I suppose the only real way to feel empowered is to know that as long as I do my best for my daughter things will work out alright one way or the other and this bitch is inconsequential. I also like the idea that a determined man can always win the long game of life as well.
Sorry you have to deal with that s~~~.
yeah it’s rough right now but i made my own bed by not learning the first time. although i wouldn’t trade my daughter for the world, i think that if i would have jerked off more often when i first started seeing her mother, I wouldn’t be in this position. one thing i think to myself now is: if you’re about to make an important decision that seems to have a lot of emotional influence behind it, go jerk off, think about all of it and see if you don’t feel differently afterward.
If you have not read this yet, please do:
C~~~sbtw cpig, awesome read. thanks for the reference. one of the parts that stuck out to me was about women confusing sexual desire with love. it really just reiterates the fact that men really do have a greater emotional depth than women as is contrary to popular belief. another part that was interesting and rang true for me was that women don’t bring up grievances within the relationship until they’ve already moved on in their mind and are planning to monkey branch. i wish i would have known that. i was just like the men mentioned in here putting all this futile effort into working things out when this c~~~ just sucked it all up (my energy, effort, resources and life force) all while planning her next moves.
This body holding me is a reminder of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember, we are eternal and all this pain is an illusion.
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