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The same has been done with our women. By a malevolent force that is perverting our nature.
F~~~ed up, right?
WAKE UP PEPPLE YOU NEED TO LOOK BEYOND THE WOMEN.
I seriously don’t get why people just stop their intellectual inquiry at women. As if women have ever achieved anything on their own.
Lol.The Biblical apple & snake metaphor still applies to women. Human nature hasn’t changed.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Monogamy was created by men, to keep women in line. Not the other way around. Only a man would want a fair playing field. Only a man would want to control the spread of disease. Only a man would want to know for sure the kid is his.
Women want nothing to do with civilization. They want no rules. No responsibility. If they did really want that, then we would not be in this mess.
I do not call this Evolution.
I call it the End of Days.True but needs the rest of the data. Without monogamy the alpha male that runs the tribe always has to watch his back as young up-and-coming men will always be looking to take him down. The alpha’s life is short, always dies violently but gets to breed all the women. Somewhere along the line in evolution men decided that more could be accomplished working in unison and you didn’t have to watch your back. In order to get that cooperation between men the alpha would have to give up total control over a harem and instead give each man one women to get his participation. Monogamy. Fast forward to today,,,,,and you don’t see one man one women,,,,,,therefore guess what happens,,,,,,lack of male participation/cooperation.
True but needs the rest of the data. Without monogamy the alpha male that runs the tribe always has to watch his back as young up-and-coming men will always be looking to take him down. The alpha’s life is short, always dies violently but gets to breed all the women. Somewhere along the line in evolution men decided that more could be accomplished working in unison and you didn’t have to watch your back. In order to get that cooperation between men the alpha would have to give up total control over a harem and instead give each man one women to get his participation. Monogamy. Fast forward to today,,,,,and you don’t see one man one women,,,,,,therefore guess what happens,,,,,,lack of male participation/cooperation.
I don’t think that’s exactly true with humans. That’s to say that I don’t know that the alpha ever really wanted to have sex with all the females and didn’t want any other male to have sex with them. I’d say that the alpha always wants his pick of the best females, but has no need to keep them all to himself. It was therefore only natural for the second and third tier women to go to the 2nd and third tier men. It’s not simply a matter of “alpha and everyone else”, but a full hierarchy based on what the group sees as valuable to the whole group. And I don’t think is really different today (not entirely anyway), hence the term “out of your league”.
But that still doesn’t explain monogamy entirely. I think that is best explained (as sidecar stated) in that child care takes an enormous amount of effort. Mother’s and father’s are much more biological prone to look after their own children over other’s offspring. It complicates things greatly when a mother has to look for resources from multiple men for the benefit of their children. Likewise, a man doesn’t want to support multiple baby mamas. Everything is better when all of your children have the same mother and father. Note that even in cases where polygamy exists, it was always in the form of a single man supporting multiple women and children. He was required to be loyal to them as far as provided resources for the women and children. A woman who had children with multiple men was considered a whore, and her children were bastards. No man would want her since she came with the responsibility of supporting her and the child.
I’d say that monogamy also caught on naturally since humans develop emotional bonds through sex (can anyway) and familiarity with each other. We only have so much capacity for caring and providing resources for others.
As far as why monogamy is failing today, there are a multitude of reasons. I’d sum it up by saying that it’s the availability of resources that is the biggest issue. That includes the ability for a woman to acquire resources on her own, from the government, from men who are courting her etc. It’s also in her ability to find another man to support her, and willing to support her offspring. Men also have less need for a woman in terms of being able to support a child, however, the government doesn’t allow a man to raise a child on his own, not anywhere near it supports a woman doing so.
Back on the issue of hierarchies within society, I think the ability for someone to change their social ‘rank’ is also a reason why divorces happen so frequently. Hollywood types are constantly changing in popularity, and thus the mate that fit them yesterday is beneath them tomorrow. In normal everyday marriages, a husband turns out to not be as high ranking as you thought he would be, no thanks to the fact that you emasculated and beat him down once he signed his life over to you. In the past, changing your status wasn’t nearly as common or easy, and divorcing rarely was a way of switching to another mate.
What’s forgotten in all this is the emotional bonds humans need. When women ask where all the good men have gone, it is sometimes about resources, but always about the emotional bond they are missing in their lives. I do think men want that bond as well, but realize, often after making great sacrifices in the hopes of achieving that bond, that it’s unattainable. I think women have somewhat compensated by bonding more with other women, while trying to keep men from bonding with each other.
Ok. Then do it.
I don’t think that’s exactly true with humans.
It isn’t true. Your post is almost spot on.
Human biology is completely incompatible with the alpha + harem paradigm because no human male has the productivity to provide for that many women and children. In an environment of scarcity, is it safer for a woman to capture one man’s whole productivity for herself than to risk sharing with other women. Hence monogamy. (Which isn’t to say that once she’s captured that productivity she won’t try to cuck her provider – but that’s a different matter entirely.)
It’s only in environments of hyperabundance where resources are plentiful and so easily acquired that women can get them for themselves that their reproductive behavior devolves and you get something sort of mimicking the harem model. However it’s not quite a harem even then, because there are no real attachments made. The supposed “alpha” isn’t providing for the women, he’s just fucking them. The cock carousel really is a more accurate term for it than harem, and women, for other biological reasons, all want to ride the same horse.
Welfare creates a state of false hyperabundance – at least until you run out of other people’s money and everything collapses.
I think the ability for someone to change their social ‘rank’ is also a reason why divorces happen so frequently.
Divorces happen so frequently because there is no cost to women in divorce. That’s independent of social rank. One of the clues is that women file 90% of divorces. If it was merely social ranking, you would expect men to file far more often as part of the supposed “trophy wife” behavior.
Eliminate alimony and child support and you’ll see the divorce rate drop to near zero, and the male filing to female filing rates approach 50/50, at all social rankings.
What’s forgotten in all this is the emotional bonds humans need.
What’s really forgotten are the children, or I should say future non-adults, because it’s extremely difficult for a child to become an adult without two full duration parents. Children need fathers. I think that, more than anything, is why so much of the millennial generation and later is such an utter failure. Whenever I see the overgrown squalling babies at yet another Antifa Reichsparteitag, I can look across their faces and just know: “She had a single mother. He had a single mother. They had single mothers.” It’s nothing but the products of selfish single mothers right down the line.
I cant quote the whole last post, but damn. He just dropped some Savage Truth Pills Hiroshima style.
When women ask where all the good men have gone, …. the emotional bond they are missing in their lives.
I think it’s ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that
womengirls buy dogs.Lets face it people. A dog is a great thing right? But, is a brand new puppy dog an appropriate thing to own if you are a 23 year old girl? How many of these girls I see, it’s astonishing. They lease a $2000 a month apartment in Uptown and then walk their puppy out front or on the Katy Trail. A sweet lil Border Collie or whatever…
A dog is something you buy AFTER you get a HOME. AFTER you get married. AFTER you have a child… its not appropriate to own for these women because they use it as an emotional pillow, a mock-man or mock-child. Its a mental sickness, the mark of inferior child-like thoughts.
Who the f u c k hires and pays these air-head lil c u n t s all this money? That they can afford to live lease apartments like that and buy expensive dogs and eat out at c o c k-tail lounges with their girlfriends everynight of the week. I walked past a random place in Deep Ellum today, it was BRIMMING with atleast 100 girls (no guys in sight) all these women at 7pm, drinking and eating together. Who the f u c k pays for this crap? Those women do not contribute to a healthy economy I guarantee it, how can they afford these luxuries?
I cant quote the whole last post, but damn. He just dropped some Savage Truth Pills Hiroshima style.
You’re doing pretty good yourself, Gravel Pit. Great post.
Welfare creates a state of false hyperabundance – at least until you run out of other people’s money and everything collapses.
The 2020s enroute. That sentence sums up the next ten years. This artificial stability is about disintegrate.
Eliminate alimony and child support and you’ll see the divorce rate drop to near zero,
Oh no sir! That would make too much sense. We can’t take women’s toys away or they will cry. REEEEEE! Making Prostitution legal as well as getting rid of child support would triple the birthrate in 5 years. But NOOOO, we cant do that because insane religious people and Liberals alike are against the obscene objectification of females donchaknow? Women are not just a vagina with two legs, they can do anything a man can do!! REEEEEEEEEE!
Whenever I see the overgrown squalling babies (Antifa) I can look across their faces and just know: “She had a single mother. He had a single mother. They had single mothers.” It’s nothing but the products of selfish single mothers right down the line.
God damn that is just savage. LOVE IT! Its ripe truth
We’re allowed to say DAMN but not b~~~~ (b a l ls) What kind of retarded smeghead invented this auto-censor?
Divorces happen so frequently because there is no cost to women in divorce. That’s independent of social rank. One of the clues is that women file 90% of divorces. If it was merely social ranking, you would expect men to file far more often as part of the supposed “trophy wife” behavior.
Eliminate alimony and child support and you’ll see the divorce rate drop to near zero, and the male filing to female filing rates approach 50/50, at all social rankings.
I thought that divorce rate was lower amongst lower income marriages. Perhaps not. I do completely agree that cash prizes enables divorce, but I still think social rank movement is also a big factor. Or may at least the ability to move laterally in the social hierarchy. If a woman was effectively limited to re-marrying a man that was socially lower in class than her current husband (enforced through social shame), I think you’d also see a big dip in divorce, even if there was no change in divorce payouts.
Looking at how it was in the past when divorce was lower, both factors were in place to keep marriages together. You didn’t get cash and prizes AND you were not going to be able remarry at the same class, if at all.
The phrase “Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free” has been applied to a reason men are not choosing to marry women. It makes sense, yet many many men went ahead and bought the cow. What’s actually happening though, from the women’s perspective on men, “why not lease the cow for a short time, and they extort milk from the cow from the rest of his life?”
Ok. Then do it.
the women’s perspective on men, “… lease the cow for a short time, extort milk from him for the rest of his life?”
Yes, this is why divorce occurs even in low-income marriages. Half of everything is hers by law. If there is a child, she gets to keep it and she also gets guaranteed % of his income every month. He has no choice, the State takes it out of his check by force. If he doesn’t pay, JAIL time. He has no rights. Even though alimony is not legal in every state, women still have too many incentives to kick men out of their houses.
“Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free” has been applied to a reason men are not choosing to marry women.
I love the expression but it’s not applicable in explaining why Men are not getting married.
Men have not changed guys. Men are not walking away. Men are not waking up to misandry or unfair family courts… Men are still the same horny, validation seeking, white-knights they have always been since forever… Be real.
Arguably, women haven’t changed either so what’s the catalyst? The ARENA has changed. The Rules of Play and the Environment have all been replaced.
We’re not living on Ice-Age hunter-gatherer Savannahs. All the Natural Rules of Nature that ensured balance in sexual mating and partnerships have been up-ended; replaced by modern-medical interventions and crazy legislation. None of these inventions of Modernity were present at any point in our 7 million year old history as hominids.
You can’t just remove animals from their natural habitat and expect them to be okay. They die. We’re dying in slow motion and the statistic prove it.
The birth-control pill and abortion should not be available except in super-regulated and rare instances. Child support is a guillotine for the family unit, which leads to fatherless children who grow up to be crazy, irresponsible and violent.
Child Support should be completely outlawed.- Its antithesis to pair-bonding and a balanced relationship between mothers and fathers.
Now.
Obviously we can’t un-write the 19th Amendment, nor can we take back abortion or the Pill. That ship sailed so what else can be done to remedy the imbalance in male/female dynamics?
You need a competitive sexual marketplace where sex with males is scarce (legalized prostitution does this) and the financial advantage of their presence is needed (getting rid of child support does this). Currently, sex with males is in ‘oversupply’ (dating app Chads) and male’s resources are also free because the Government steals them and give it to women.
If we don’t fix this situation, the Birthrate is done. Mexicans and Muslimes breed like rabbits and they will get around the Modern Virus for awhile… but eventually 1st world standards of living will catch up with them too and paralyze their Male/Female Family Structure. They are human just like us and will fall prey to the same Technological Pitfall.
If those issues are not addressed, the only viable option is for the the government to pay women to be surrogate mothers. Once the children are born, they will be raised and educated in Government Conditioning Centers.
And this brings us to eventual artificial wombs, the outlawing of Natural Births where you need a special license to procreate, and of course everyone’s favorite, Gene Modification and eugenics. A Brave New World. Huxley was right all along, not Orwell.
Narwhal wrote: Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free
We’re not getting any Milk. That is the problem. Women ignore us entirely.
Women, aged 15-50 are all banging Chads and chasing the top 20% of men.
The rest of us normal guys are standing here with our d i c k s in our hands.You think I am that disciplined to have abstained from sex for 6 years? LOL It wasn’t me bro, women didn’t see me… Im not a Chad nor a rich philanderer.
The current model has me finally getting laid when I either; A. become a Beta Bucks ATM Husbank or B. Start Chading idiot girls half my age.
Im 33. The girls my age are desperate to get knocked up by 40 year old men making $60,000+. Im not even a blip on the radar. I could be out sliding my wank into 20 year olds but its just so cheesy and stupid… She will not be faithful as she just gained admission into Amusement Park and will be riding the Carousels until she hits a wall at 35…
We have to empty these Carousel Rider’s ammo-clips. By that I mean take away their supply of Chads by making prostitution legal. Once you do, these sluts wont have sexual company because no man on Earth will endure listening to her and buying her crap when he can just pay $75 to a safe pro-escort and he’s done. Sort of like how movie rentals killed the Theatre.
At first this sounds like a terrible idea but it causes a Supply & Demand issue! Women like sex. When the Chad Wank supply dries up, they will be forced to pursue average men and to actually TRY to please them because average guys will not want to put up with their crap either. The difference is, Average Guys, not Chad’s WANT A REAL RELATIONSHIP! Women will also be forced to pursue guys their own age and those guys will want a relationship with her…not just a fling
Once you combine this with getting rid of
Child SupportGovernment Daddy… BINGO, REAL FAMILIES become a thing again. Faithful wives who stay that way because she don’t want to be on the street with no financial aide for her kid.Men need the right to Opt Out of financial support for a kid. This gives us leverage in persuading a woman to be a mother, to be a wife, and to not ruthlessly pursue Chads and depend on welfare……..
Men need the right to Opt Out of financial support for a kid. This gives us leverage in persuading a woman to be a mother, to be a wife, and to not ruthlessly pursue Chads and depend on welfare……..
I doubt child support, etc will ever go away. Nor welfare.
The Left is dedicated to their “Social Nets” which encourage people to act irresponsibly.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I doubt child support, etc will ever go away. Nor welfare.
Then the train wreck will continue worsening. Not that I give a crap. ZFG. But just saying. This whole thing could be fixed.
The main reason I dont care is because there is no salvation for my Generation. My peer group women are soiled beyond repair. Life passed me by.
Its a shame but oh well. I can live it up and be a CHad soon, get a vasectomy and start cream-piein lil college bitches
The main reason I dont care is because there is no salvation for my Generation. My peer group women are soiled beyond repair. Life passed me by.
Its a shame but oh well. I can live it up and be a CHad soon, get a vasectomy and start cream-piein lil college bitchesI hear those 20-something females giggling sometimes in another room and it makes me cringe.
I have a vasectomy, but that is only so I don’t knock up a girlfriend. Start creampie-ing college THOTs and you’re liable to get one of those new-fangled antibiotic resistant STDs.
You know what’s worse than having it burn when you p~~~? Not being able to treat it with antibiotics anymore.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
Not really,…..
It has been reported several times and even brought up on this forum before that it is the liberals that are not hooking up and producing the next generation. Conservative Christians are having a family/children. Mormons, Amish, and Evangelicals here in the states have large families.
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Well, tell these sluts they need Jesus Roadmaster! Like yellin’ a cows to get outta the road. Seems to have little effect.
Of course we all know that this is due to the automated process of internet/app dating culture.
Naw. The internet has nothing to do with it.
Spoiler: there was no internet in the mouse utopia.
I think it’s ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING that women girls buy dogs.
I’m not sure those things count as dogs.
Making Prostitution legal as well as getting rid of child support would triple the birthrate in 5 years.
Tripling the birth rate is actually a bad idea. When the shit hits the fan, the last thing we’ll need is a large population of unproductive hungry mouths to feed. What we actually need for a few generations is a slightly sub replacement birth rate. Short sighted economists will ask: “Then who would be there to pay for the welfare state?” But then it was those same short sighted economists who created the welfare state in the first place. So they insist on immigration to provide for future wage slaves and tax cattle (and captive voters). They simply can’t conceive of the correct solution: eliminating the welfare state.
God damn that is just savage. LOVE IT! Its ripe truth
Try it for yourself. You can even bring a clipboard and do a proper survey. Don’t tell them you’re counting the spawn of single mothers; that will only invoke their childish wrath. Tell them you’re doing a research project on “deadbeat dads” as part of your foundations in feminist sociology class at the local state college.
We’re allowed to say DAMN but not b~~~~ (b a l ls) What kind of retarded smeghead invented this auto-censor?
It’s always been there, but only on pages rendered unto the spectator masses. For some reason it’s now being applied to members only page renders. Which really makes me wonder just who the fuck is actually running this website now.
Also balls.
I thought that divorce rate was lower amongst lower income marriages.
That’s a cooked statistic. Like always, they normalize that divorce rate against the total population as a whole, when they should be normalizing it against just the married population. In other words the divorce “rate” in the lower income population only looks lower because the marriage rate itself is so much lower. And since marriage is nothing but a prerequisite for divorce…
In actual fact, the odds of any individual marriage ending in divorce goes up significantly the further down the economic scale you go. Looking up from that economic level, women see a much larger field of men doing better, and so are encouraged to think they can trade up. meanwhile the lower end of the economic scale has a massively higher rate of single motherhood, far more judgements of child support, more common law palimony awards, and a much higher child support burden relative to the men’s earnings.
tl;dr: There are a lot more baby mamas in the lower classes than divorcées in the upper classes. But socially in group they’re the same thing.
The phrase “Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free” has been applied to a reason men are not choosing to marry women.
The analogy is inaccurate.
It should be: “Why mortgage the cow for life when you know it’s going to jump the fence, leaving you to continue to pay for nothing?”
Once you restate the situation correctly, the answer becomes obvious.
Men have not changed guys. Men are not walking away. Men are not waking up to misandry or unfair family courts… Men are still the same horny, validation seeking, white-knights they have always been since forever… Be real.
Then why aren’t men getting married?
The collapse in marriage rates is real.
Obviously we can’t un-write the 19th Amendment,
Sure we can.
But it’s easier to simply wait for the imminent social and economic collapse to make it irrelevant.
nor can we take back abortion or the Pill.
But why would we want to?
The only problem with abortion is that it’s solely a woman’s right to choose, while it’s solely a man’s responsibility to pay. Give men the right to choose or make it a woman’s sole responsibility to pay, and abortion becomes a non-issue.
The same goes for the pill. We don’t need to get rid of it. We need a male version of it.
If those issues are not addressed, the only viable option is for the the government to pay women to be surrogate mothers. Once the children are born, they will be raised and educated in Government Conditioning Centers.
Shit like that never, ever works.
We’re not getting any Milk. That is the problem. Women ignore us entirely.
Some of us are.
Women, aged 15-50 are all banging Chads and chasing the top 20% of men.
It probably is 20%, but it’s only the TOP 20% when judges on sexual activity levels. By any other scale, it’s just a scattered 20%.
She will not be faithful
That only matters if you want her to be faithful. If you’re only keeping her around for a couple of months before you next her, why do you care if she’s faithful?
as she just gained admission into Amusement Park and will be riding the Carousels until she hits a wall at 35…
Which, again, doesn’t matter if you’re her first ride.
By that I mean take away their supply of Chads by making prostitution legal.
That will not get rid of their supply of Chads because 1) Chads are not a supply – they’re a scarcity by definition, and 2) Chads don’t pay, also by definition, so they wouldn’t pay for prostitutes.
I doubt child support, etc will ever go away. Nor welfare.
Oh, no. They’re going away. That’s guaranteed.
The only question is what they take down with them.
Not really,…..
It has been reported several times and even brought up on this forum before that it is the liberals that are not hooking up and producing the next generation. Conservative Christians are having a family/children. Mormons, Amish, and Evangelicals here in the states have large families.
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All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
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Liberals aren’t tribbles; they multiply their numbers using re-education camps: public schools and colleges.
Most of these highly religious groups push their own education system. No Amish ever set foot in a public school. Mormons are spread out and some do end up in public schools. Evangelicals I know less about, but I do know in my area most large churches have attached primary schools, and a boarding school(think Harry Potter going off to school) for 9 to 12.
The big thing that is going to kill that is if Trump and Co, get this voucher thing passed. A winning issue for them, everyone wants school choice except the liberal leftist teachers union and its backers.
https://www.chron.com/news/education/article/DeVos-backs-Tennessee-s-push-for-school-choice-13732578.phpDeVos backs Tennessee’s push to expand school vouchers
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