Ending a NAWALT (kinda) relationship, Just getting it off my chest.

[CountMeInParticipant 38]

I just ended a year and a half relationship with a NAWALT of sorts. In the time we spent together we never fought. I’ve never experienced not arguing with a woman. She compromised on everything. More often than not she would bring dinner over to my place. Without a doubt she spent more $ on me than I did on her. The type of girl who has a killer body but doesn’t know she’s hot. Very humble. By all accounts she was a NAWALT…?

Why is it over? Her ex would call on her all the time to help with the kids. “Can you take this one to the Dr”. “This one is upset at school” and so forth. No she wasn’t cheating. We ended up spending less and less time together. It was like owning a Ferrari and forced to leave it in the garage because you can’t afford the gas.

The moral of the story. If she has kids you will always be last. Not second, last. It’s not just the kids it’s all the things on the list that are for the kids: Job, house, car, bills, shopping, cooking, cleaning… and at the bottom of the list is you. I actually found the unicorn, a purple squirrel or a true NAWALT. I suppose not.

Thanks for listening.

[HitmanParticipant]

if it’s too good to be true,
it probably IS.
sorry you thought you had a good one..
but single mom’s are single for many reasons,
99.9% of those reasons are the SAME reasons YOU shouldn’t be with her.
iv’e been there too brother,
good you got out unharmed..

[experiencedParticipant]

CountMeIn wrote:

I just ended a year and a half relationship with a NAWALT of sorts. In the time we spent together we never fought. I’ve never experienced not arguing with a woman. She compromised on everything. More often than not she would bring dinner over to my place. Without a doubt she spent more $ on me than I did on her. The type of girl who has a killer body but doesn’t know she’s hot. Very humble. By all accounts she was a NAWALT…?

Why is it over? Her ex would call on her all the time to help with the kids. “Can you take this one to the Dr”. “This one is upset at school” and so forth. No she wasn’t cheating. We ended up spending less and less time together. It was like owning a Ferrari and forced to leave it in the garage because you can’t afford the gas.

The moral of the story. If she has kids you will always be last. Not second, last. It’s not just the kids it’s all the things on the list that are for the kids: Job, house, car, bills, shopping, cooking, cleaning… and at the bottom of the list is you. I actually found the unicorn, a purple squirrel or a true NAWALT. I suppose not.

Thanks for listening.

Single moms are like a see-saw or teeter totter that’s bowed down in the center. They are prewired in an unstable condition because they are highly motivated to catch you, and once caught, they devolve back to Everyone/everything else goes ahead of you.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

CountMeIn wrote:

I just ended a year and a half relationship with a NAWALT of sorts.

Oh Boy…..

CountMeIn wrote:

Her ex would call on her all the time to help with the kids. “Can you take this one to the Dr”

AWALT-strike 1

CountMeIn wrote:

No she wasn’t cheating.

hmm….

CountMeIn wrote:

We ended up spending less and less time together

See previous post ^^^^^ doesnt make sense.

CountMeIn wrote:

If she has kids you will always be last. Not second, last.

AWALT strike-2

CountMeIn wrote:

It’s not just the kids it’s all the things on the list that are for the kids: Job, house, car, bills, shopping, cooking, cleaning… and at the bottom of the list is you.

AWALT strike-3…….you’re out.
Take it as a lesson learned brother and never under any circumstances date a single mother. there’s a reason she’s not with the man she has kids from….strike 4

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Here’s the thing about relationships… you’ve got to think about where you stack up in the list of other people’s priorities. Consider the following:

Priorities of a Childless Woman:
1) Herself
2) Her Source of Income
3) Her Social Network
4) You

Priorities of a Single Mother:
1) Herself
2) Her Source of Income
3) Her Kids
4) The Father of Her Kids
5) Her Social Network
6) You

And compare with the priorities of a childless man:

1) You
2) Your Work, Goals, Hobbies and Dreams
3) Pussy and Female Attention

And assuming that you are interested in and dating women, your 2nd and 3rd priorities are flexible. But for her, you’re like #4 TOPS. The best you can hope for is that your wallet becomes #2 in her life… because believe me, you as a person and you as a source of income are two entirely different things.

But for a woman with kids, you’re sixth at best… behind the kids and their father (as he may serve both as social network and as source of income) and her social network (friends, family, guys that buy her drinks when you’re not around).

So why would you do that to yourself? If you’re going to date women, you’ve got to make sure they’re no higher a priority for you than you are for them.

MGTOW Man:

1) You
2) Your Work, Goals, Hobbies and Dreams
3) Your Freedom and Autonomy
4) Pleasures You Can Acquire For Yourself
5) Pussy and Female Attention

This is perfect for women without kids as it puts them in a situation where they’re working to get your attention and not the other way around. To top a single mother, you’d either have to have kids of your own or be seriously invested in a political movement AND a charitable organization and THEN only consider her when you’re done with all that.

Unlikely. There is no such thing as a NAWALT and you should NEVER date a single mother.

[UntamedParticipant]

There’s no such thing as NAWALTs, I don’t care how good she treats you. I was f~~~ing a weemin last year that was determined to turn me away from the mgtow lifestyle and push me into another hell hole of a relations~~~. I only spent the weekends at her place but She had ALL the NAWALT’s traits, always agreeing, respectful, always welcoming and never contradictory. I guess it’s a game they’ve mastered over the centuries because they’re good at it, pretending to be docile, loving and all that s~~~… But she couldn’t keep up the game for ever, although it lasted a year. Little by little she became bossy, bitchy and vicious, facets of her I was patiently waiting for to surface and when that happened, boy was I glad to be MGTOW!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Untamed,

Regarding a NAWALT not being able to ‘keep up the game forever.’

I agree 100%. I was with a couple of them during my blue pill era and their charade and facade would start to crack in as little as 3-4 months. Almost right on schedule.

However, another NAWALT kept me hooked in for over a year and a half, and she was able to keep the mask on and keep her game going for so long due to what I refer to know as strategic daily proximity.

I would have cut her loose with about two months of her living at my house. But she was a flight attendant and it seemed like everytime (every week), I was close to figuring out what was really going on. – She left for another 2 to 3 days for work. So there was never any daily normalcy establish or a regular routine.

At any point in time when my brain started connecting the dots, processing her inconsistencies and seeing through the mask. She was gone again.

Then back home again. And she would almost instinctually re-wire (LOL) my brain after landing with more killer sex and fall back into her (temporary) NAWALT mode. A mode that was only capable of being maintained by the fact she could arbitrarily take a break from it, fly off to work again, the submerse herself back in it again.

In that sense, she was really strategic & tactical.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Sky-O wrote:

I agree 100%. I was with a couple of them during my blue pill era and their charade and facade would start to crack in as little as 3-4 months. Almost right on schedule.

That’s why we should practice “Oil change Dating”,3 months or 3,ooo miles whichever comes first. (Thanks stealthy!)

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[UntamedParticipant]

Sky-O wrote:

And she would almost instinctually re-wire (LOL) my brain after landing with more killer sex and fall back into her (temporary) NAWALT mode.

Yep. That’s their M.O. They know that food, sex and praise can soften a man as surely as tenderizer on meat. They know full well what effects sex has on a man and they fully take advantage of that. All her interests rest on the efforts she will make to appear NAWALT.
Fortunately, I always keep my MGTOW glasses on. AWALT!

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[RorschachParticipant 2083]

CountMeIn wrote:

She compromised on everything. More often than not she would bring dinner over to my place. Without a doubt she spent more $ on me than I did on her. The type of girl who has a killer body but doesn’t know she’s hot. Very humble. By all accounts she was a NAWALT…?

Most likely NPD or BPD. They always seem perfect until they cant keep up the facade and start to crack. Then the warm crazy center leaks out.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "save us!"....... and i'll look down and whisper "No."

[CountMeInParticipant 38]

I appreciate everyone chiming in. Made me feel better already. I mention the fact that she didn’t cheat because I knew it would come up. No sense in proving her case about that. I feel she missed her kids or she wanted to take her ex back to court. He was only paying 50% child support. If he was dumping the kids on her a lot she could show she deserves more.

In full disclosure, she got:
5 years alimony
Child support
The house
A car
Half his 401 = $150,000
Oh and she works.

I know you guys are right. I’ve seen 50 year old women with kids under 5 years old. To find a woman without kids that isn’t “entitled” “narcissistic” or “self centered” is just not going to happen.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

CountMeIn wrote:

It was like owning a Ferrari and forced to leave it in the garage because you can’t afford the gas

Many men aren’t looking for a women to be around all the time, and prefer that the women is to busy to put them first in their lives because they’re not going to put the women first. Many men want to put themselves FIRST in THEIR lives.

A Ferrari is not a Camry, and should just be driven for pleasure. If she’s physically that satisfying to you, why don’t you just enjoy her when you can, and then spend the rest of YOUR time doing what YOU want ? Sounds like it could become a satisfying arrangement.

I would surely enjoy driving a Ferrari weekly, and not having to maintain it all week, just enjoy it.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[CountMeInParticipant 38]

Exactly! The first year was great. I was seeing her once a week. She’d show up with dinner, we’d have a couple of drinks, some sex and if there was time watch tv. Then she would leave.

But the last 5 months I had seen her 8 times. The last month I had seen her once and she said we needed a break. I told her that what was going on with her and her ex and the kids was not likely to change. That I felt we should not go any further. She agreed it wasn’t working this way. No argument or harsh words.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

CountMeIn wrote:

But the last 5 months I had seen her 8 times. The last month I had seen her once and she said we needed a break.

She found another c~~~ or she’s back with Chad, how do you need time from 8times in 5 months? Stop listening to what women say and watch what they DO. Does her actions show true to what she says? You have to flip your logic.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[CountMeInParticipant 38]

Again, not going to bother proving her case. It was the kids that were hogging her time. She was saying “with Christmas coming, work and the kids she felt overwhelmed and needed a break. I didn’t see that things were going to change so I ended it. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not missing her or want her back. I want other men to see another situation where things can go poorly.

[CountMeInParticipant 38]

She told me once that if she didn’t have the kids they would still be married. That with the kids she was more concerned being a mom and not a wife. In short, they stopped having sex she said.

It makes sense now. She felt “Guilt”. She said that her ex cheated on her but he wanted the divorce not her. She felt (naturally she should) that it was her fault he looked elsewhere for sex. Even though she had proof of him cheated she said she didn’t bring it up in court. That would just show she was a bad wife. When he calls needing help with the kids,she jumps. Because it’s her fault he is burdened with the kids now.

Just passing on what I’ve experienced to others. The truth is there if you look.

[BoycottBitchesSpectator 155]

Well look on the bright side, now you’re free to roam the fields and meet as many chicks as you want.

[ApexScorpionParticipant 602]

It’s nice that you consider what she’s tells you as truth, but even behind tears, a woman can be cold.

Take their sincerity lightly. She probably felt guilt about something else. You’ve only seen her once a week you say? Then you have no definite idea what happens the other six days.

[The man in the mountainParticipant 4102]

Dating single mothers is a bad idea, f~~~ing them is also as bad ( physically speaking ) you are beating a piece of meat that has been pummeled through, not only by other men, but by her children literally.

I f~~~ed single mothers in the past and they always felt wide to me, even though my dick is above average, its not small nor average and they still felt wide, i rather masturbate than to deal with a useless bag of problems.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

CountMeIn wrote:

Exactly! The first year was great. I was seeing her once a week. She’d show up with dinner, we’d have a couple of drinks, some sex and if there was time watch tv. Then she would leave.

But the last 5 months I had seen her 8 times. The last month I had seen her once and she said we needed a break. I told her that what was going on with her and her ex and the kids was not likely to change. That I felt we should not go any further. She agreed it wasn’t working this way. No argument or harsh words.

The mistake you made is that once it became clear she was becoming less and less interested you should have found someone else to f~~~ when she wasn’t around. I also agree that she clearly found someone else or was f~~~ing the original Chad and was keeping you in the background just in case.

Trouble with single parent mums is that there is always some drama in the background where they need your help or money. Before you know it they give you some sob story about not being able to afford the rent and how it would be much better if she and her kids moved in with you.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

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