Don't EVER give up hope.

[Anonymous 54]

Ok we all know the drill.

Joker..Why are you here?

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

her online dating profile(s) must be just as heavenly to you also? Huh?

Joker wrote:

If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Simple as that.

Practice what you preach much?

Could follow your own advice.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Joker wrote:

Grow up.

“Believing in angels” is not a sign of maturity. YOU grow up.

Joker wrote:

I find it very hard to believe that all women are plotting against you.

But it’s easier for you to believe in angels?

Wanna see them plotting?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3At_6thwPg

Is it ALL of them? No. And it doesn’t have to be.

Joker wrote:

Paranoid much?

Idiot much?

Joker wrote:

It’s my opinion that you shouldn’t give up hope.

Why are you still addressing others like they are “hoping” to suffer from the same delusion?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

*yawn* Hey, fellas, I’m back. An update as to my interesting year will be posted at some point.

I don’t think OP is a female. I’ve sounded pretty much exactly like OP on numerous occasions, even when I should have known better.

To OP:

What you’re feeling are called ‘hormones’. If you look up and read everything related to limerence, including things like corpulins and the like, you’ll probably throw up realizing how much a prisoner of your body you (and we all) are. These particular hormones, which exist to propagate the species, are in many ways more addictive than heroin and certainly much more subtle – dangerously so.

She’s not perfect. She may or may not be perfect for you, but given the society we live in, the odds are entirely stacked against you. It’s a moot point, as your judgment in the matter is absolutely zero right now. She could be grossly overweight with a meth habit, prison record, and a dick, and you’d still think she was your “soulmate”.

The most likely trajectory for this relationship is as follows: you guys are in hormonal bliss for between 12-18 months. Maybe, maybe 24 if everything else is awesome in your life and you’re in a relationship-positive environment. Then, you see, you’ve failed to pop out a child, and your hormones are now going to start telling her that she needs to find a different source of sperm, as yours are clearly incapable of making her pregnant. If you do knock her up, and would like to keep her in happy hormonal loyal mode, you need to put 4-6 more babies into her over the next decade or two for her chemistry to decide that you are in fact her feels or soulmate or unicorn or whatever the f~~~. Of course, the society you live in will do every single thing possible to undermine your relationship, and if it does falter, you can expect the entirety of the American criminal justice system to punt kick your ass into permanent debt slavery to support her hormonal desires to breed with the most superior source of sperm possible.

If you’re really interested in a lifelong, permanent relationship in which she has a hard time leaving, may I heartily recommend either Mormonism, Orthodox or Hasidic Judaism, or various branches of Islam. Of course, there are costs associated with these choices, and I don’t really recommend them unless you enjoy religion and clannish behavior a *lot*.

For the time being, may I in the strongest terms recommend a vasectomy? You can lie to the little unicorn everendingstory princess and tell her you’ve had a gym injury or somesuch to cover up the temporary impossibility of erections. They are reversible, and that way whatever mistakes you may be currently making do not last eighteen or so years into the future (more, if the courts award her spawn college and grad school).

Cheers,

Elric

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[Anonymous 54]

Joker wrote:

It’s my opinion that you shouldn’t give up hope. There is someone out there for everyone. My girlfriend proved it to me. Paranoid much?

Your an idiot. The usuall fear shaming tactict.

[JokerSpectator 55]

So I changed my mind after I registered the account and now I want to share a different opinion. What’s wrong with that? Can’t handle a little dissent?

You have 1000+ topics of men complaining that women are conspiring against them, why can’t we have an actual debate about the validity of your beliefs? Because my girlfriend proves your beliefs are incorrect for her at least. I know that woman can burn men, but you just have to get to know the person before you get into a relationship. I’ve met her family and friends and we all get along so well.

I’m not going to break up with her just because you say so. I’m not going to be lonely again. I want a life. I want happiness. And that is why I’m going to stay with her. Maybe it’ll work out long term, maybe not. But I want to live life NOW, not complain and complain, yet do nothing about it.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Joker wrote:

Kinda getting mad that you all are insulting my girlfriend. And no rule says that I can’t post my opinions here. Here in America we still have 1st Amendment rights. I can try to help people anyway I can.

If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Simple as that.

Dum Dum, the 1st amendment only applies to the government, not a private organization.

Proof our education system is broken.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[TattooDaveParticipant 6952]

Just good bye honey, better luck with chad!

I can see their heads have been twisted and fed with worthless foam from the mouth. Bob d

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

Oh, and also, sunshine:

I’m going to assume this relationship is less than three or four months old at the present time. Do, when you’re having a more sexually sober moment, ask yourself if the feelings you’re having at the present time are not *remarkably* like the feelings you’ve had in similar relationships.

If you haven’t had enough relationships to chillingly note this similarity, then may I suggest you posit this question to the cheerful vulpine and lupine crowd here. I’ll put in my two cents’ worth now. I completely recognize the delightful, druglike, ethereal haze you are currently in, and would very much like to feel it myself. Fortunately, though quite sadly, I recognize the costs associated with it, and am no longer willing to pay them, having spent ages 11-46 chasing that particular dragon to its ultimate, mushroom-cloud like end.

Anyone else recognize what OP is feeling right now?

Cheers,

Elric

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Joker wrote:

What’s wrong with that? Can’t handle a little dissent?

Oh we “handled” it just fine…. “JOKER”.

Joker wrote:

You have 1000+ topics of men complaining that women are conspiring against them,

Now why would that be? Are you saying there are not AT LEAST that many examples of proof where women ARE? Can’t handle a little dissent? How about FACTS?

FACTS BEAT ANGELS.

Joker wrote:

Because my girlfriend proves your beliefs are incorrect for her at least

Do you know the difference between a belief system and REALITY? You are thinking in terms of the lowest common denominator , and you will never learn anything in this world that way.

Look up grasshopper. Not down.

If I say “birds fly” that’s not a “belief”. That’s a fact. You don’t attempt to argue it by saying “NOT ALL BIRDS!! PENGUINS DON’T!!!”. That’s intellectually retarded.

Joker wrote:

I’m not going to break up with her just because you say so.

Nobody is suggesting you should. YOU were suggesting we all go running out there chasing unicorns. REMEMBER??? So we’re not going to chase unicorns just because YOU say so. Is it making sense yet?

Joker wrote:

But I want to live life NOW, not complain and complain, yet do nothing about it.

And so you should. You’ll be back, and it wont’ be to gloat.

Joker wrote:

I want happiness.

It’s really not that difficult. I’m happiest when I’m CONTENT. And I don’t need a woman in my life for that. Chasing “happy” is one of the worst things you can do. It practically cultivates “depression”. And as I already said before, it’s like setting yourself up to fail, because you put yourself in a position where your “happiness” now depends on HER.

But when you stop chasing “happy”, you can finally learn the tremendous value in being content. And when you’re content, “happiness” will surely follow.

I won’t ever give up hope — >> that one day you’ll know what that means.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

How does YOUR girlfreind prove anything about my beleifs? Thats MORONIC.

I reiterate

YOUR AN IDIOT.

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

Holy crap, I just came up with a really, really good one. KM, if you could immortalize this somehow . . .

“We all think we’re chasing a unicorn. In fact, we’re just chasing the dragon.”

I am but a humble conduit for these things, from a higher source. 🙂

S’good to be back.

Cheers,

Elric

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[PhantomParticipant 3328]

Joker wrote:

I’m not going to break up with her just because you say so.

Ride the lightening and enjoy it…you are in for one hell of a ride.

If we men are making you mad, wait til she starts making you mad.

You ain’t seen nothing yet. Or do you think she is perfect and can never do any wrong EVER?

You want a debate? Yeah, right, sure you do.

Not buying it.

[Mr. ManParticipant 2916]

Keymaster wrote:

Hominid wrote:
a lot of confused men out there who are flipping between the fantasy of love and their new-found MGTOW truths.
Okay and fine, but it gets funny and escalates to pathetic pretty fast when they lecture like they know better about YOU and everyone else – like some almighty final authority on “soulmates”.

Too much Walt Disney during early development.

Oh, I totally agree, Keymaster. And I honestly don’t want to see this kind of fantasy romance bulls~~~ on the forums. So many men here have worked too hard to keep their red pills down and come to terms with the reality of female nature, only to have this blue pill toxicity poured back down their throats.

For example, earlier today, Moonwatcher posted about the serious problem he’s having with Red Pill Depression, and he sure as hell does not need more doubt to clutter his mind. For that matter, neither do I.

[Anonymous 54]

” I signed up and changed my mind”

FEMALE

F~~~ OFF C~~~ BRAIN

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

*shrug*

I’d keep this one up, and not delete it. Mostly, because I think OP’s arguments have been pretty effective countered. If anyone is convinced by OP after this debate, I think they believed it in the first place, and weren’t ready to have their minds changed. That’s okay. This site is for when they’re ready to come back.

Oh, holy crap, when I tell my story of the past year. Oy. It hurts so much when I laugh. Mostly through the bandages and open wounds. Owies. Oy. Vay. Eek.

Elric

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Elric Greenstone wrote:

KM, if you could immortalize this somehow . . . “We all think we’re chasing a unicorn. In fact, we’re just chasing the dragon.”

It is my opinion that concept is already immortlized in fairy tale / love stories.

The fire-breathing dragon is a metaphor for every Princess’ inner bitch — which a White Knight™ is expected to slay for the OPPORTUNITY to climb to the highest room in the tallest tower and kiss her – if he’s “lucky”. And this is generally expected behavior.

Even Shrek said “f~~~ this s~~~” and decided the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze.

Personally, I would keep her fire-breathing dragon as a pet, rearrange the furniture, kiss her and LEAVE. Eventually, she’ll snap out of it. But as a courtesy, I would leave a note. “Don’t ever give up hope. I’m sure your Whight Knight will be along soon…….. some time in the next 100 years”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 5]

Joker wrote:

But I want to live life NOW, not complain and complain, yet do nothing about

Going back over all your threads and posts it’s clear you’re the one with the s~~~ty life, and always complaining about it.

It’s also clear you’re an Incel (Involuntary Celibate) not MGTOW or even Red Pill.
Feminists constantly lump the two totally different groups together (for shaming purposes)
The Japanese establishment constantly use the same shaming with the Hikokomori and the Soshoku Danshi (Herbivores)
Go back and read what’s written on the forums and stop imagining it, then re-spewing it out as fact.
It’s also typical that an incel will drop to his knees at the first bit of vag thrown at him.

After the horror stage of Red Pill realisation, everyone goes into a type of contentment and satisfaction that few of us thought would be achieved in life. It seems to be permanent!
The forums mainly reflect this and are mostly a lot of laughs and life tips. Haven’t you noticed how much fun we get from the f~~~less fatty feminists?

You’re either too scared to confront reality or you’re just a fat little crew cut feminist.
I’m starting to lean towards tuna.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Hey,

I really hope it works out for you. Maybe she is a Unicorn, but I would still be cautious.

The advice above about Vasectomy is worth heeding. If the relationship goes sour you can get out with less cost. It does sound to me though that you have been blinded by the chemicals in your brain know as “Love”. People talk about a “honeymoon period” in a relationship because that happy loved up state only lasts about 2 years max. Then when you come down from the high you might see things differently.

I hope you have spent enough time on MGTOW sites to spot the “Red Flags” if / when they start to occur. This will give you an advantage over a Blue Pill guy in that you will be able to apply “Damage Control” tactics sooner and protect yourself.

If she is a Unicorn then congratulations 🙂 Trouble is, you won’t really know untill about 3 – 4 years down the line and by that time you may be in too deep with kids and debts.

Don’t slam the guys here. They can be harsh but they are trying to warn you of the very real dangers that may lie ahead. Love is a great feeling, but when it inevitably fades you need to be able to build a close mutually supporting partnership with this woman. Find out what her long term plans are NOW. You need to know if and how many kids she wants and when she wants them. You need to know if she wants to have a great career or be a stay at home mum. How big a house does she want? What kind of luxuries does she desire? Does she dream of a new car and exotic holidays? Do the Math. Can you afford to keep her happy materially. When working out what you can afford, do it again but this time based on just your earnings in case she decides she wants to quit work. have that discussion and don’t shy away from any subject including what dark sexual fantasies she may have. You need to know NOW.

Remember, this woman will have all the power in the relationship, She can make you or she can break you. Are you ready to put your life in her hands?

It's Time to get Wise

[GrumpyParticipant]

No comment on this thread outside of I think I found a nice chair and ottoman I’d buy

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

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