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When will someone will do a study on the physiological effects of social/sexual deprivation on the male population? Who here has honestly not had a hellish time at some point in their lives due to “blue b~~~~” or similar?
Especially when you’re younger. Primates such as humans are inherently social creatures. It’s in our DNA. Lack of social contact has some serious and measurable physiological effects. For men it’s made worse because our natural social engagement revolves around the sexual, again because of hardwired DNA.
Therefore I submit that maleness should be considered a protected condition like race, transgender, disability, etc, and we should be given all of the consideration of any other group with protected status. This is caused by a genetic condition which we didn’t choose.
Think about the violence perpetuated by men – lets face it, most of it is (something like 90% of homicides). All because this condition we have is treated like something to be exploited for personal gain mostly by women, but by institutions as well. It may not always be by choice – those afflicted from birth with the Y chromosome may be driven to these behaviors for more frequently than by any sort of conscious choice.
To any women reading this: If you had a genetic condition that was constantly being exploited and willfully manipulated by everyone from schools to the military to your aunt tessie, would it really be surprising that a percentage of those afflicted end up having violent episodes or outbursts? Particularly when you consider that one of the well documented physiological effects of that same genetic condition is a strong predisposition to aggression and violence (testosterone)?
If they want to play the game where every aberrant behavior is excused or rationalized to be not the fault of the individual but rather due solely to the circumstances of birth, then we can play that game too.
Protected status NOW for Y chromosome sufferers!
Campaign slogans and bumper stickers to include:
“Do you know Y?”
Why ask “Y”?
“Understand Y”
“Y not?”
“No time to discuss it with the commitee.” –Han Solo
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
It makes for a little bit of fun here, but even as a joke it indicates some kind of defect from being a man.
I can’t beat manipulators at manipulation or the victim game, so I’ll just beat them and all of their pussy beggars at everything else.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Anonymous42Lack of social contact has some serious and measurable physiological effects.
Excessive social contact has some serious and measurable physiological effects!
I’ve spent days alone building things that suite my desires. Who can possibly be happy spending allot of time bumping and rubbing in a crowd of people? gives me the heebie jeebies!
I found the extensive rewiring of my mind shields me from loneliness, I’m not looking for acceptance or to be comrades with Mr. Popular, or the “in crowd”.
Needing people to fill every minute of your day is something someone with a frail self-esteem need to do (women).
Not being primarily independent is a blue-pill condition. Western men have been feminized to the point these truths are becoming lost in the gynoblender, turning the Western man into a mangina…
If you couldn’t fathom crossing the ocean in a worthy boat on your own, then you can’t fathom the journey of a MGHOW…
Women are like chickens, they flock together.
Men are like eagles, they soar alone, or together, makes no difference…
A woman “alone” will go out of her f~~~ing mind!
Thanks Ogre, but seriously – I’m not really joking. The preferential treatment that “protected” people receive has had a very real impact on my life. I didn’t get that scholarship because of my gender/race/etc so I had to live in a tent while I went to college.
Watching someone else get extra time off just because of their gender while I slave away is demoralizing.
I think most of this crap like identifying with a different gender and expecting special treatment in the bathroom has just gone too far. Enough already.
It’s time to force them to deal with the fact that “Y chromosome afflictees” were born with conditions beyond their control too, and if every other group deserves special treatment for that, then by God so do we.
I’m tired of us being the only ones expected to just “suck it up” and deal with it. Look at the extreme behaviors brought on by excessive testosterone – are you honestly going to tell me that menstruation is worse than that?
If they’re entitled to it, then so are we – equality baby.
I’ve spent days alone building things that suite my desires. Who can possibly be happy spending allot of time bumping and rubbing in a crowd of people? gives me the heebie jeebies!
Understood, and granted we’re a highly adaptable species, but I think I’m thinking on a longer timeline. Human beings as a whole tend to do badly when deprived of social contact for extended periods. Think Tom Hanks and Wilson the volleyball.
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
This is one of those policies that I just have to shake my head a few times in disbelief, turn and walk away.
No good can come of this. And the math proves it.
Let us work the math out.
For simplistic reasons the ratio in genders if 50/50 for this formula.
A company has half their work for be women. Now, if this became policy that half the work for would get time off with payed leave. Given PMS, it would likely not be 3 to 5 days, but a full week every four weeks. So, the women will get a quarter of the time off with paid leave. That is 13 weeks out of the year. 3 months and a week. On to of whatever
This would make that the company’s income would have to devote another 12.5 % to pay for the women off, and someone to replace them for that time. 50% the company is women. And a quarter of 50% is 12.5%.
In almost any give industry, it is men that are usually the exception, inventive and hardest working employees.
First the company cannot fire a woman for having her period, because they would get sued. So, to pay for this, the company would have to fire 12.5% of the men. And to make up the different, the company cannot order the women to work harder over this, so the men left in the company will be ordered to work harder to make up the difference.
On top of this, the company would likely cut the salaries of the men, because if they did this to the women, the women would sue, using the policy change as grounds for the lawsuit.
So, the men in the company will see their male friend fired, their hours increased, their pay cut. While women are given paid leave a quarter of the time. If the company is lucky this will only kill morale. If not, the men will either slow their production and do the bare minimum, or just work. Removing quality control from production in the company.
This is a death spiral for a company. They run off their most productive works, which causes less revenue, which causing more cut backs which causes more productive members to leave the company, or be fired.
In other words. This policy will not work. The women will abuse it, and the men will be hurt by it, with men growing resentful over this policy.
Male/Female relationship are already at an all time low in western civilization. That is why MGTOW exists and is growing.
To the women that may read this. Suck it up. By the age of eighteen you women should have learned how do deal with your monthly cycles, and work around the problems your cycles creates. If you women are in such pain that you cannot get out of bed during your period, immediately got to the emergency room. Something is bad wrong with you. Because that is not normal.
For the rest of the women, if you women embrace this policy it will just mean you are taking one step closer to sending you women back to the red tent.
For you women, the people behind this policy are not doing you any favors with this policy. They are infantilizing you women. They are saying you women cannot be trusted to take care of yourselves. They want to enslave you, like women are enslaved under Islam. They are creating these policies to create your reactions as justifications to do so.
While we MGTOW have been burned by you women enough not to want to have anything to do to you. Should the state enslave you women, who do you think the state is going to expect to pay to take care of you all? Us men. And we men whom have become MGTOW have done so because we are tired of paying for you stupidity and irresponsibility.
So, I will say again to your women. Suck it up, and start acting like mature adults for once. And stop using your biological problems as an excuse to act like spoiled, immature children.
Think about the violence perpetuated by men – lets face it, most of it is (something like 90% of homicides).
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Particularly when you consider that one of the well documented physiological effects of that same genetic condition is a strong predisposition to aggression and violence (testosterone)?I take issue with these two parts of your post, for good reason:
More than 50% of all unprovoked Domestic Violence is perpetrated by women, against men. The only difference is HOW it is perpetrated, and the physical results. Women throw things and use knives and other weapons far more than men. Men use their hands. Women’s bodies are more fragile than men’s, so they bruise more easily and show more serious side effects. But the truth remains – women are more violent than men.
Testosterone does NOT cause violence.
That needed a sentence of its own. Studies on mice have concluded that aromatase receptors in the brain are the critical factor for aggression – the more receptors, the more aggression a mice displays. This is independent of hormones, but is linked in a secondary manner to any hormone, as their breakdown products can trigger the receptors. A study of women who were given testosterone showed that it made them fairer, more generous and more efficient at communication. Women who had been TOLD they had been given testosterone [when in fact they had not been] displayed aggressive, rude and anti-social behaviour.
No study anywhere has shown that testosterone causes violence, because it does not. All men, and all women need to know this.
When will someone will do a study on the physiological effects of social/sexual deprivation on the male population? Who here has honestly not had a hellish time at some point in their lives due to “blue b~~~~” or similar?
I can report what I have gone through during Social and Sexual deprivation if you like to read.
SOCIAL DEPRIVATION
It rewinds far back into my childhood.
When I was growing up from 10 to 15 years old, I have wondered why I had no friends, believing it was wrong being without people you call today “friends”. I have beaten myself up because of this.
I tried to be accepted, did some s~~~ but in the end nothing has changed except some laughter and trouble, nothing too serious fortunately.I tried to be gangsta so I could impress myself and some people around my school.
Been abandoned and on my very own.
This is where my ghosting initiated automatically and there was nothing I could do to turn it off.Then I moved into a different area and school and basically (15 years – 19 years) the results were the same.
I started to look around and realized what a bunch of stupid, useless idiots people are. One day I asked myself “Do I want to be accepted by these morons? Was I really trying to apply myself to them?”. This is where I started to get used to the ghosting. I realized I am a better human than 95% of my school.I kept observing (not online stalking!) and concluded, that these fools won’t make it anywhere far. They (pupils) kept pushing around everybody, scream, act like total bums and are interrupting the lessons. Sometimes some of them attacked and insulted everybody in school and were basically dicks. I haven’t found as many as a maximum of 3 adequate people per class.
Around graduation I went full ghost and liked it. No contact, no sight, no news from me anymore. I have no social issues so far because it’s better to be alone than with someone, who is hurting you.
Today it’s safe to say, that my school is a zoo with animals. And I went there, been there, done that.SEXUAL DEPRIVATION
Some people claim to get superpowers by going nofap but I don’t believe that.
In fact I was nofap (not by choice, lack of privacy) on one period and it SUCKED! I was seriously frustrated but I didn’t do anything because I couldn’t change anything back then.
Sexual deprivation for me is what I see Today as the nofap procedure as days since last wank. The bigger the number, the worse it gets.
Effects of sexual deprivation for me are: Grumpiness, bad mood, the will to please myself over time, fun sources are disrupted partially, the need to empty my nuts, unhappiness.
Further deprivation over much longer period for me include in accumulation of anger, impaired (self) control, will-power drainage, insaneness and negatively impacted overall health.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_intercourse#Health_effects
Sex in fact is healthy, be it with a person or alone, it doesn’t matter. That’s how the body works.Maybe it’s easier for me today because I have access to adult entertainment videos now with some privacy… for now…
+ I’m a virgin, I don’t see any losses if I never had sex with a woman to begin with, so all I need is a good wank every day and I’m good to go ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)All because this condition we have is treated like something to be exploited for personal gain mostly by women,
Yes! Yes, indeed.
That’s what I call the charming ability they possess.
Women have been taught to look pretty to charm men.
Not only has it been gone as far as charming men into the relationship but also to exploit us, something, that we are after, something as sex or any other need to squeeze benefits out of men.The ability to resist these charms is a true gift to possess and I have it. You can call it whatever you like but it will have something to do with the red-pill knowledge and true facts.
"We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."
When will someone will do a study on the physiological effects of social/sexual deprivation on the male population?
Great idea! I think this actually been done.
Women have this sense of entitlement and they are always scheming to receive preferential treatment. You have to give them credit- women are great at receiving special benefits from the government, from corporations, and from most men.
Remember the slogan “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” first used by Louis Blanc in 1839 and then popularized by Karl Marx?
The female version should be “From men according to what I can get out of them, to me according to my unlimited desires”.
I have no desire to be a whiney bitch, just because someone else manages to get away with it.
Regarding your point about natural male aggression, I recognize that that is the case for a lot of men. I have friends that will tell me they want to get into a bar fight, which seems absolutely ridiculous to me. One friend does MMA as a hobby, so it’s not about proving his ability, he just wants to fight, and it’s natural for him.
In the case of the male aggressor, he shouldn’t seek out special treatment for him to take aggression dates off. No, he should take on a career where that aggression is an asset, or at least not a liability. Sports, trainers, police (maybe), or something that requires a lot of manual labor. At the very least, get a hobby that allows you to express your aggression.
Ok. Then do it.
I take issue with these two parts of your post, for good reason:
More than 50% of all unprovoked Domestic Violence is perpetrated by women, against men.
No argument here. I’m just talking about the natural tendency to even seek out violence that we’re all familiar with. Like Narwhal pointed out.
I’m in totaly agreement when it comes to the now low threshold for what is considered domestic violence. Riasing your voice, breaking some object that you own to relieve some tension – all considered DV now, and f~~~ing ridiculous.
I’m thinking the more hard core homicidal rage type of violence, where 90% is apparently done by males.
Testosterone does NOT cause violence.
Ok, testosterone receptor complex then, whatever. I’m talking about the instinct that males of almost all mammalian specie exhibit when they fight each other for territory while the females watch to see who wins. Point is: It’s part of the genetic makeup we’re born with.
At the very least, get a hobby that allows you to express your aggression.
I get where you’re coming from, but my point is why are we told by society to do things like that to deal with a condition we’re born with while others get a free pass?
Nobody tells women they should look for a profession or hobby to deal with their PMS. That’s just another for of telling someone “Man up” in my book. I know you didn’t mean it that way yourself, but the societal tendency to deal with the male condition feels a lot like that.
I have no desire to be a whiney bitch, just because someone else manages to get away with it.
Understood and neither do I, but I have to wonder how much of that is societal conditioning, at least for my part. If someone deserves protected status because they “feel” like they’re a different gender, why shouldn’t we have the same consideration available if we choose to for having a well documented genetic condition that causes us all sorts of problems?
Maybe I’m going a little far out there with this, but are you going to tell me that demanding access to a different bathroom, or special treatment in the hiring or admissions process because you feel gender “fluid” isn’t?
I’m just saying that having a Y chromosome carries with it some very real physiological and phchological effects, like a high degree of susceptibility to sexual manipulation. Just look at the incredible number of blue pill manginas acting against their own rational best interest for proof.
And if all these other “conditions” like gender fluidity etc etc deserve special treatment, it’s about goddamn time we had equal treatment in this regard.
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
I take issue with these two parts of your post, for good reason:
More than 50% of all unprovoked Domestic Violence is perpetrated by women, against men.
No argument here. I’m just talking about the natural tendency to even seek out violence that we’re all familiar with. Like Narwhal pointed out.
I’m in totaly agreement when it comes to the now low threshold for what is considered domestic violence. Riasing your voice, breaking some object that you own to relieve some tension – all considered DV now, and f~~~ing ridiculous.
I’m thinking the more hard core homicidal rage type of violence, where 90% is apparently done by males.
Testosterone does NOT cause violence.
Ok, testosterone receptor complex then, whatever. I’m talking about the instinct that males of almost all mammalian specie exhibit when they fight each other for territory while the females watch to see who wins. Point is: It’s part of the genetic makeup we’re born with.
Yes. The mice in the experiment were female mice, given excess estrogen, and displayed “male” aggressive, territorial behaviour, such as attacking other mice. It’s not a male trait, it’s bi-gender, women display as much, if not more aggressive behaviour as/than men, even the psycho-rage-homicidal-aggression. But they are 60% as strong as men, men have more accident-resistant physiology, men do not report female violence as often, and women make excuses for it, shame men, and laugh it off.
It’s NOT testosterone, or any “testosterone-complex”. It’s independent of specific hormones. Women are violent. Period. Wake up.
So you’re saying that female mammals fight over territory as much as males do then? That’s why female deer have antlers and butt heads over territories and access to mates. Oh wait…
I saw this same instinct play out countless times in high school with guys getting in fights over “territory.” The only thing they didn’t have was the antlers. And just like the deer, the females always gravitated toward the winner.
You tell me how to classify/quantify that.
All I know is the drive to do that is clearly attached to the Y chromosome across the animal kingdom. Why is that so hard to grasp?
"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,
When excess hormones are introduced, yes, females have been shown to engage in traditionally male territorial behaviour.
But on the whole, women display their aggression and territory marking in different ways from men. As you point out, men are likely to fight, or mock-fight, and women are likely to use “relational aggression” which is covert, often hidden from view, plausibly deniable, and insidious.
There was another post recently which covered the topic of rape and women’s fantasies and body responses to it. In general, as you rightly point out, women are turned on by men’s physical displays. I have heard a number of female friends say that they love watching a man work (physically), and I’ve caught women subtly ogling me and my work buddies when we were throwing logs around after cutting trees down. I called them out on it, and they just giggled and blushed. But they didn’t stop ogling, haha!
I think you are right in saying that Testosterone gives drive. The only place I disagree is it being the cause of aggression. The two things are separate, and it’s important in my mind that all men know this. I’m not sure I give a s~~~ about women knowing it, they’ll make their mind up on the matter based on how they “feel”. Which is why there’s confusion around this issue in the first place. Women “feel” that T causes aggression, therefore “it’s true”.
So basically what you’re saying is that men are biologically handicapped to commit more violence, hence a defective Y chromosome, ‘its not our fault’ when we say 90% of homocides are committed by men, and thus we should have a ‘protection’ card.
I will say I agree to this and at the same time would not agree.
Men are generally more aggressive because aggression was a definitive charater for the primal species. The more ‘manly’ ou are, the better are your chances of survival. ‘Manliness’ was directly proportional to the amount of violence displayed. In that case, you are correct.
But it is only the feminised education system that makes you believes that its a handicap. They tell you “You are dangerous because you are a man and bound to be aggressive”. When that is hardly the case. Men are more reasonable. They woud not just go out on the streets and blindly start punching people. We have something called ‘a brain’ which tells us when it is right to ‘make the manly face and defend the territory’ and when its better to avoid confict at all.
Having a big body and big muscles doesn’t mean you are dangerous. Its only the environment you grow up in that defines your behaviour; if you’re hunky and short-tempered, it was because of your environmental factors, how you were brought up….NOT because of your Y chromosome.
I have seen men who could break a horse’s spine with a swing of their fists; but they hardly ‘display’ aggression; in fact, they are some of the most good-natured people I know.
True, being a man has its
downsidesupsides for having the ability to bash harder, but is that factor responsible for making us criminals? NO!A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
When will someone will do a study on the physiological effects of social/sexual deprivation on the male population? Who here has honestly not had a hellish time at some point in their lives due to “blue b~~~~” or similar?
I have been saying that if things keep up and feminists keep getting their way men at some point are going to snap. We live in a society now where women are dressing more slutty and men are constantly being shamed by women with such impossible standards. It is probably going to get to the point where women are dressing practically naked and only dating 6 foot tall rich men while porn and male masterbation has been outlaws leaving horny men to look at attractive women while not being allowed to do anything about it. The whole “that is no excuse to rape” mind set I feel starts to loose validity here. It is one thing if men are allowed to express their sexual desire, but it is not biologically normal for men to be constantly aroused, told it is wrong, and not be allowed to do anything about it. If it does ever get to the point and men are starting to force themselves on women I blame them. Women are the ones trying to ban porn and sex dolls.
We have already seen this type of thing happen in Europe with the refuges and women still haven’t gotten anymore wiser it seems. It is not different then if you lock a starving person in a grocery store with no money expecting them not to eat anything because it would be stealing and that is wrong. The person would eat the food regardless because it isn’t human nature to say “well even though I am starving and there is food right in front of me I am not going to eat it and instead die because stealing is wrong”
It is not different then if you lock a starving person in a grocery store with no money expecting them not to eat anything because it would be stealing and that is wrong. The person would eat the food regardless because it isn’t human nature to say “well even though I am starving and there is food right in front of me I am not going to eat it and instead die because stealing is wrong”
This makes a lot of sense actually. Except the fact that food is a necessity, while sex is not.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
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