Divorced men please take my survey

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

If you really don’t give a s~~~, GTFO of my thread.

It wasn’t personal.

Anonymous wrote:

we left.
we don´t give a s~~~ any more.

…. has nothing to do with you™ – or your survey.

He meant — >> “the gender war ends here” and “arguing” about prenups is futile when a simple refusal to sign a marriage contract takes care of the problem entirely.

His indifference was in the aggregate, and nothing personal.

There is never any need to “prove” to women why a marriage contract is a stupid idea for any man. All you need to do is never propose and the problem is solved.

Don’t worry. They get it.

You can tell they get it by replacing the word “marriage” with “marriage CONTRACT” in any conversation with them. When you mention “the contract” they go curiously quiet on the spot. It instantly de-romantices “marriage” and is the metaphorical equivalent of ripping the bouquet out of her hand, stomping on it, lighting her wedding dress on fire, shattering all of her false pretenses and illusions, unzipping your fly and p~~~ing on her cake.

“Marriage” paints the pretty picture they want you to see.
The marriage contract shatters it to bits.

You never need to explain why prenups are toilet paper again.

“So how you feel about marriage?”

“No man should ever sign a life/marriage contract to a woman who hates him enough to actually let him go through with it.”

“BUT YOU CAN GET A PRENUP!!!”

“Is that a proposal? Where’s the ring! Since I don’t even know you, it had better be NICE!! Minimum 5 carats and up. And don’t forget to kneel down when you bring it to me and make a grand theatrical and unforgettable spectacle of it when you ask me nicely for my permission. Now f~~~ off and don’t come back until you bring me that ring.”

Don’t even GET INTO this debate with them.
Marriage is for gays.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Handy RaySpectator 34]

Keymaster wrote:

g-mow wrote:

If you really don’t give a s~~~, GTFO of my thread.

It wasn’t personal.

g-mow wrote:

we left.
we don´t give a s~~~ any more.

…. has nothing to do with you™ – or your survey.

He meant — >> “the gender war ends here” and “arguing” about prenups is futile when a simple refusal to sign a marriage contract takes care of the problem entirely.

His indifference was in the aggregate, and nothing personal.

There is never any need to “prove” to women why a marriage contract is a stupid idea for any man. All you need to do is never propose and the problem is solved.

Don’t worry. They get it.

You can tell they get it by replacing the word “marriage” with “marriage CONTRACT” in any conversation with them. When you mention “the contract” it instantly de-romantices it and is the metaphorical equivalent of ripping the bouquet out of her hand, stomping on it, lighting her wedding dress on fire, shattering all of her false pretenses and illusions, unzipping your fly and p~~~ing on the cake.

You never need to explain why prenups are toilet paper again.

Thank you for the explanation. I’m not arguing my point to women. I’m planning to use the survey as ammunition, if you will, to convince other men that marriage is a bad idea.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Handy Ray wrote:

I’m planning to use the survey as ammunition, if you will, to convince other men that marriage is a bad idea.

Some men deserve it. Like Reggie Yates from the BBC who attempted to shame MGTOW. Like my friend who shamed me for NOT being married. When he announced his engagement, I was THRILLED for him.

You would have more luck telling them what I told him:

“OMG!! YOU’RE SIGNING A MARRIAGE CONTRACT??? THAT’S AWESOME!! YOU’RE PERFECT FOR IT!!! WHO ELSE IS GONNA KEEP THIS RIDICULOUS GONG SHOW GOING?? DEFINITELY NOT ME! I’M SURE YOUR UNICORN IS THAT PERFECT DIAMOND IN A MOUNTAIN OF RUBBLE. Don’t let ANYONE tell you otherwise. They’re just bitter.”

It works.

Trying to convince them it’s a bad idea will not. It just makes you look “negative”, “jaded”, “butthurt” and “bitter” and you’ll be dismissed with those accusations. But if you congratulate them and take your positive reaction WAY over the top, you make your point without making it. Can you imagine saying that ^^ in a group with the bride standing there? The reason they will HATE it – inspite of your over-the-top positivity – is because they already know.

Otherwise, while you may have very positive intentions, you can’t teach a child what “hot” is.

It’s — >> impossible.

Every child needs to burn it’s own finger at least once.

Why do you think they think this kind of wedding photo ( below ) is widely considered to be “hilarious”? You’re gonna try and convince that guy? He already knows his fate and is willingly committing suicide. His self-esteem is so low, he wouldn’t know the difference between “love” and not getting spit on.

CONGRATULATE HIM. AND MAKE IT GOOD.
You can’t help this guy. He’s f~~~ed.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

F~~~ you.

[Anonymous 54]

Handy Ray wrote:

Would you prefer that I post this on C~~~book instead where women can “sway” he numbers the other way?

I would preffer that you not act like an arogant asshole.

[Anonymous 54]

Handy Ray wrote:

I wonder what would happen if I opened the poll up to women too? What do you think?

I think your a woman .

[Anonymous 12]

Invading male spaces and telling males to GTFO.
I rest my case.

actually not.

i recommend this person take a truckload of red pills and listen to terrence popp for a moment.

[Anonymous 0]

The button does not work on my phone, could I propse the motion for a punt?

[Anonymous 54]

Tuna.

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

The button does not work on my phone, could I propse the motion for a punt?

I do this on my phone also.All that stuff doesnt work.
I call tuna and hope someone else agrees and hits the button.

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

Tuna.

Perch…. I mean preach.

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

What is going on here, i lay low a week and all over the place tunas, trolls and IP harvesting.

Do not click on any outside manosphere links, do not feed the trolls.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[Freeman_KParticipant 3524]

Anonymous wrote:

I call tuna and hope someone else agrees and hits the button.

I agree even without this thread, i agree just from the introduction. TUNA PARTY.

The choices we make, not the chances we take, determine our destiny

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

It's Time to get Wise

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

The only thing such a survey would teach you is how many people that read MGTOW had prenups. This will not be a large enough number to say anything about statistically.

However, it is clear you are trying to segment and try to quantify the group of men going their own way that share here.

I object to people peering into the lives of men who have gone their own way.

It’s the governments way in.

I feel strongly about this.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 54]

Look at the title.
Devorced men.

Men in small letters to start with.

Who says Divorced men?

We would usually say Men who have been devorved.

Devorced men….Female.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Not taking part in the rest of this interesting thread, but I just wanted to point out that there are a number of better resources out there to get an accurate idea of prenup statistics. I think a number of colleges have done studies on that very topic. Might be a better place to start. Many MGTOWs here haven’t even been married to begin with, and many more haven’t had prenups, so the sample group here might not large enough to bother with.

2 cents.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[AwakenedParticipant 35203]

Man or Women, it’s behaving like an Arrogant Douche Bag !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

F~~~ surveys. Men being men is all you need to know.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Men understand that trust is earned.

C~~~s and manginas feel they are entitled to trust.

I disagree.

RESPECT is “earned”.

TRUST must be freely given – or not – until it is abused.

We have to “trust” that another car coming in the opposite direction isn’t going to cross this painted yellow lines and kill us – every single day. We need to “trust” that some passerby isn’t going to whip out a knife and stab us on the sidewalk every single day.

And if you decide not to give that trust away, your option is to walk to work, or not leave the house. Those are the options.

But you can’t expect someone else to “earn” trust.
THAT’s what women do.

They hold their hands out for “respect” . . . . while expecting you to jump through hoops to earn her “trust”.

“How do I know I can trust you????”

“YOU DON’T. You will either trust me willingly – or you won’t.”

“You need to learn how to respect women!!!!”

“No. You need to give someone something to respect. And being born with a vagina is not NEARLY enough. So try harder. Respect is up to each individual to earn. Do you eagerly embrace criticism? Because that’s the first way to start earning respect. Only people in the big leagues can handle criticism. Can YOU?”

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We know this , because people are far more likely to trust complete strangers than their own spouse, family, and friends etc. And why? Because they can’t hurt you. Your wife can. Your boss can. Your friends can. But complete strangers don’t usually give a s~~~.

Women will tell a hairdresser , bartender, a stranger online or sitting next to them on an airplane the most intimate details of their personal life . . . before they tell their own husband.

RESPECT is “earned”.
TRUST must be freely given – or not – until it is abused.

You don’t really have any other choice.

The best you can do is make a judgement to trust or not. But it’s not right to expect someone to earn it – because they CAN’T. How do I PROVE you can trust me? I can’t. I know you can freely decide you will or you won’t, and there’s nothing I can do about that.

Women have a completely backwards understanding of trust vs. respect. They demand respect for free without criticism . . . . . while expecting someone to earn their trust, when they ALREADY KNOW it doesn’t work like that.

I disagree right back at you.

I think that is blue pill residue. What our Fathers pushed on us in between telling us about settling down with a good woman etc.
Of course men were to respect all women, They did not have to earn it, but other men had to earn our respect through blue pill ways (how they treat women and provide for them etc. was the criteria usually.)

I treat everyone with basic respect, until they show me they are not worthy of that. I do not trust everyone, and to be frank neither do you.
Do you look at your door lock before you go to bed and think “Nah, its all good. I trust everyone…” Hell no you don’t.
DO you cross in the crosswalk when you have the right of way, without even looking? “I trust the drivers to stop when they are supposed to!” F~~~ no!

But if a stranger says hello to you, will you give them the basic respect of saying hello back? Sure, why wouldn’t you?

As for your examples, I don’t trust other drivers. I assess risks and expect the worst, to be honest. Only an idiot would blindly trust that a driver could not cross the yellow line into their lane, or run a red light while they are crossing the street.
The fact that someone drives does not mean they trust other drivers, it just means that they need to function in this world, and accept the very real risks that they face.

Men earn trust, they don’t demand it to be given.

Most of my biggest regrets in my life involve me giving my trust away.
I have never regretted treating someone with basic respect, though.

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