Please clarify my understanding of the differences.  MRA look to advocate to try to change social values and get laws changed to be more favorable.  They are trying to work to have society be more accepting of men.  MGTOWs, on the other hand, have decided they would rather just go off and do their own thing, and forget about what society things, just become self-reliant, and do what is needed, no matter what.  Pretty much, call the bluff of the social scare tactics, and just do what one wants, rather than try to get approval.  The approach for a MGTOW is different, and far more of get my own stuff together than try to work together with a crowd to change things.  In short, MRAs can fight feminists, MGTOWs decide it isn’t even really worth it at all, but look after oneself first, and others who may need help, so that they are strengthened individually.  MGTOWs refuse to play the game the feminist/SJW side wants to play, which likely annoys them.

Please feel free to clarify for me the difference. I am hoping I am on target.

Most MGHOWs are okay with not passing on their genes. Some love women (as in love them for giving a place to deposit cum). Some MGHOWs have been so burned that women repel them and they won’t even sit near a woman.
We all are apathetic towards women as well as blue pillers.

The MRA thinks that by ‘talking’ about it to the feminists and their mangina/white knight stilleto lickers (who have shown time and again they don’t believe in rational debate or logic),  that somehow this will change the situation. They are deluded and have shown their inability to handle the situation as shown in that feminist incident in Canada involving the false fire alarm and in doing so have shown that having a rational debate does not work with these people.

MGTOW realizes the entire society is fundamentally made of cancer and Fail. The entire society has over the last few thousand years, allowed the religion of money and materialism to become the measure of value of a person, in this case a man. It has metastasized into something so toxic its considered standard for a woman to marry, have kids and then divorce a man and drain him of all his hard earned money without a single thought to what the man is going through, considering the male human does the riskier jobs and suffers more death and injury and generally suffers more stress and therefore has a shorter life. Then again who wants to live another extra day on this f~~~ed up world?

Good luck telling the above to any westernized woman when women in general do not use logic. Hence MGTOW says, I am done, and I want out like Barbarossa says.

MGTOW doesn’t give a f~~~ about society’s problems, because society doesn’t give a f~~~ about men. Fair deal.

In regards to the state of things, We Didn’t Start the Fire comes to mind now:

It has metastasized into something so toxic its considered standard for a woman to marry, have kids and then divorce a man and drain him of all his hard earned money without a single thought to what the man is going through

This is pretty much what turned me off the whole marriage idea.  I was raised thinking the working father, stay at home mother family situation was the ideal.  The more men I meet who are going through, or have recently gone through a divorce in their 40’s or 50’s and get financially destroyed…the less I want to get married.  I couldn’t even imagine spending the next 10-20 years earning a 6 figure salary and at the whim of a woman end up being 50 and broke.  Even if I have kids but do so unwed, I know I’m only on the hook for at most 18 years of child support…its a heck of a lot cheaper than having to split previously earned assets plus the same child support like what happens in divorce.  The only thing that might be worse than that is meeting an older gentlemen stuck in a miserable cheaper to keep her type marriage.

Its not even that I hate women, or don’t ever want to get involved with any of them…its just that modern society has handed them so much power over men, most of them have been corrupted by it.  I don’t write the rules, and if MRA’s have any success I’ll be either too old to care or dead, so I really don’t care enough to bother wasting my time trying to change the rules.  Its just simply in my best interest to realize many rules are written against men and the best way I can go through life is to make it so as few of these rules as possible apply to me…basically never get married.

Worn Out MRA == MGTOW

Worn Out MRA == MGTOW

Hey HR PuffnStuff, I think you’re not giving much credit to MGTOW, some of us actually had the sense to join right away.
That one article here just resonated so much with me that I joined right away, because I was familiar with the misandry from a very early age. Best decision I made in a very long time.

Both are well-meaning MRA is socialistic approach to the problem (top down) MGTOW is individualistic approach to the problem I lived under socialism long enough to understand that top down approach is a losing strategy in the long run. I can’t say it’s completely worthless, there has to be a mix of two, with emphasis on individualism. MRA is useful because it’s like using hive’s own weapons against it. The weapons are out there and being used against us, so it would be a waste to completely ignore them.

What is the problem?  As I am seeing it, a MGTOW has “the problem” as them being tired of getting the short end of the stick, and they realize that there isn’t going to be some sort of white knight, or calvary, that is going to come rescue them, so they need to work with what is, gain whatever advantage they can, and look after themselves.  They don’t care about what is seen as “the problem” that a group of people think, because they have enough of their own problems.  The solution for each MGTOW is found in whatever their own way is.  This way can be isolation, or connecting with others, but it isn’t destruction of their way for some mythical social norms that people fear will be broken.

Well, that is my take.  Am I off?  I do want to know what this problem is.  To quote a line for the song, I have 99 of them, and I don’t have another.  Being MGTOW means you don’t have that other problem.