Diamond sales dropping, Debeers blames lab-grown

[Rafe GBParticipant 474]

You can get all the diamonds ya want on Saturn, Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune.

MGTOW: The silent heralds of cataclysmic societal change. AGAIN!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

With respect, Mostly right. Carbon won’t reduce SiO2 under normal conditions.

True, but the conditions created for making exotic glasses are not exactly normal. Adding diamonds to glass at best might get you carborundum (SiC), of which the best case optically, moissanite, has even worse optical properties than diamond.

Besides, the point I was trying to make, without making the chemistry too complex, is that when you take the carbon in a diamond and mix it with other stuff, it stops being a diamond.

Diamond is hard but it is brittle. A diamond will scratch anything, mostly, but hit it with a hammer and it shatters nicely.

Which is why it makes good non-conducting micro heat pipes. And other such exotic things. Which is why synthetic diamond production has always been geared towards industrial purposes. We didn’t invent vapor deposition to put rocks on fingers.

If you have a structural use, other forms of carbon are much better. But I have yet to meet any woman who prefers a ring made of, say, nanotubes.

Putting a diamond on a woman’s finger is not only a waste of a diamond, but also a waste of carbon. Then again, most women are themselves a waste of carbon, so it sort of makes sense that way.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I read that Millennials are less attached to diamond jewelry.
They are also marrying later. The median age for millennial women to marry is 27 and for men 29, according to Pew Research.
And when they do marry, some of the millenials are buying sapphires and synthetic diamonds. I’m glad the younger guys are spending less money, although it would be nice if they didn’t spend anything.

This story has another twist. De Beers’ sales of rough diamonds dropped to $418 million from $476 million over the past month, according to data from parent company Anglo American (AAUKF). AAUKF claims the decline is mainly because India decided to ban 500 and 1,000 rupee notes on Nov. 8.

A lot of countries are trying to limit cash transactions. Don’t laugh, but I have started squirreling away junk silver as a contingency.

[SpaceMonkeyParticipant 76]

The very fact that they can produce one in a lab means it’s NOT F~~~ING RARE!!! As if the already bulls~~~ diamond industry needed anything else to prove that they may as well be charging dumbasses 1000’s of dollars for what might as well be marbles.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

A lot of countries are trying to limit cash transactions. Don’t laugh, but I have started squirreling away junk silver as a contingency.

Ammunition might be a better investment.

Just saying.

[FaxmodemParticipant 1415]

Boo hoo. I guess it shows that the marriage rate is dropping, and there just mad no one is buying diamonds. I even seen empty jewellery stores in malls and bored looking staff. I bet they hate MGTOW as well.

Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

sidecar wrote:

Jan.Sobieski wrote:

With respect, Mostly right. Carbon won’t reduce SiO2 under normal conditions.

True, but the conditions created for making exotic glasses are not exactly normal. Adding diamonds to glass at best might get you carborundum (SiC), of which the best case optically, moissanite, has even worse optical properties than diamond.

Besides, the point I was trying to make, without making the chemistry too complex, is that when you take the carbon in a diamond and mix it with other stuff, it stops being a diamond.

Diamond is hard but it is brittle. A diamond will scratch anything, mostly, but hit it with a hammer and it shatters nicely.

Which is why it makes good non-conducting micro heat pipes. And other such exotic things. Which is why synthetic diamond production has always been geared towards industrial purposes. We didn’t invent vapor deposition to put rocks on fingers.

If you have a structural use, other forms of carbon are much better. But I have yet to meet any woman who prefers a ring made of, say, nanotubes.

Putting a diamond on a woman’s finger is not only a waste of a diamond, but also a waste of carbon. Then again, most women are themselves a waste of carbon, so it sort of makes sense that way.

Which makes it nice for watches and maybe some cameras lens, because the surface area is small enough to make it least likely to shatter when faced with blunt trauma. Gorllia glass works just fine with a smart phone, and I could argue that it is very scratch resistant to begin with.

I don’t know for sure on how the chemistry works, but I believe that sapphire glass on a smart phone would be a too big of a cost to implement for one little attribute like scratch resistant since improving toughness on gorilla glass would be a better idea to begin with. This is why apple went back on their deal with sapphire glass and came up with a compromise with their latest phones. Not that it would be in Apple best interest to make a device that lasts.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

I read that Millennials are less attached to diamond jewelry.
They are also marrying later. The median age for millennial women to marry is 27 and for men 29, according to Pew Research.
And when they do marry, some of the millenials are buying sapphires and synthetic diamonds. I’m glad the younger guys are spending less money, although it would be nice if they didn’t spend anything.

This story has another twist. De Beers’ sales of rough diamonds dropped to $418 million from $476 million over the past month, according to data from parent company Anglo American (AAUKF). AAUKF claims the decline is mainly because India decided to ban 500 and 1,000 rupee notes on Nov. 8.

A lot of countries are trying to limit cash transactions. Don’t laugh, but I have started squirreling away junk silver as a contingency.

It’s a good contingency plan in the event should flat currency collapse in the west. Jewellery for traveling and Bullion for storage.

but so is canned food, and ammo. I already have some 22LR stored away as well for hunting with my hunting rifle near by my window. So I get to hunt deer if money is low.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[GrumpyParticipant]

~BS wrote:

the symbolic meaning of a gem

Symbolic of what to whom?
For me using diamonds for jewelry is an idiotic symbol, I dont give a rats ass what is symbolizes for anyone else.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

There’s a documentary about the diamond business produced by Frontline that (I think) can still be found on youtube. It’s a one hour documentary that descries the diamond business (a scam) and how diamonds came to be perceived as rare (a lie), and how their value is maintained at it’s elevated position (an illegal monopoly).

Personally, I suspect that the reason that the demand for jewelry diamonds is dropping is because they really only have one use, which is to help secure a legal attachment to a woman. Now that the demand for a legal attachment to a woman is dropping, so goes the value of the jewelry diamond…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[KeymasterKeymaster]

BrainPilot wrote:

There’s a documentary about the diamond business produced by Frontline that (I think) can still be found on youtube.

From 1994 and s~~~ quality, but superb documentary.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

coolthingy450 wrote:

Which makes it nice for watches and maybe some cameras lens,

Diamond actually makes for some good lenses because it has a refractive index of about 2.4. Most glass in optics is only about 1.6 at best. Diamond has no absorption bands in the near visible wavelengths either. This ability of diamond to bend and transmit light is what makes certain cuts of diamond so sparkly, but also allows for much thinner, lighter weight lenses than glass. Such lenses are insanely expensive to manufacture and grind to shape (diamonds are hard), so most are very very small. Don’t expect to see diamond eyeglasses on the market any time soon. They’d be very clear, very light, very hard to scratch, but very easy to shatter and extremely expensive to replace.

Meanwhile, this high refractive index makes diamond less suitable for the thin plates of glass on a phone display because you want the light from the display to come straight through the glass without getting bent and bounced around first.

coolthingy450 wrote:

Gorllia glass works just fine with a smart phone, and I could argue that it is very scratch resistant to begin with.

I don’t know for sure on how the chemistry works, but I believe that sapphire glass on a smart phone would be a too big of a cost to implement

Gorilla glass already is a “sapphire glass”. Sort of. It’s an aluminosilicate glass containing aluminum oxides (sapphire) as well as silicon oxides (glass), along with other stuff. Now most of the stronger glasses contain a small amount of aluminum oxide in them, not more than a percent or two, but I believe gorilla glass is almost 25% aluminum oxide.

coolthingy450 wrote:

I already have some 22LR stored away as well for hunting with my hunting rifle near by my window. So I get to hunt deer if money is low.

Consider getting a shotgun as well. And a shell reloading press.

That 22LR won’t be much use for deer, but a decent 12 gauge can be used for anything from squirrels to bear depending on what you stuff in the shells. And shells are reloadable, unlike 22LR, and very forgiving of homebrewed powders.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

Thanks for that info, I only suggested diamond screens because they can be clear and are stronger than sapphire.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[Anonymous 11]

I’ll give her exactly one round of 9mm for a blowjob and a sammich when that time arrives.

So you’re supposed to pony up three months salary to this shady cartel to make some brainwashed cupcake content for a week? Yeah right, I’d rather buy something useful.

[RASmanParticipant 1994]

I’d prefer gold over diamonds as an investment. In reality the only things that have real value are food and the weaponry used to protect it.

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

I’ll give her exactly one round of 9mm for a blowjob and a sammich when that time arrives.

Only Blazer though, not Remington or Winchester.

[narwhalParticipant]

I think women are demanding less of diamonds as well. A woman with a large rock no longer gets the praise of other women. She’s thought of a as greedy and conceited. That’s not to say that women aren’t interested in acquiring cash/prizes and the envy of other women, but they just do it through diamonds anymore. They want the big house, luxury car, fancy vacations, etc….and then post it all on facebook.

Ok. Then do it.

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