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  • #312813
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    Joetech
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    Listen to what he says about jobs and the economy and NAFTA. She has to lie to get out of those because they’re true, and most Americans accept that, now that we’ve seen the results of those policies. I don’t think Trump lost the debate at all, but this does kinda look like the early rounds of a boxing match. My money’s on Trump. Yeah, two more debates to go.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #312817
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    Faust For Science
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    Listen to what he says about jobs and the economy and NAFTA. She has to lie to get out of those because they’re true, and most Americans accept that, now that we’ve seen the results of those policies. I don’t think Trump lost the debate at all, but this does kinda look like the early rounds of a boxing match. My money’s on Trump. Yeah, two more debates to go.

    My thoughts exactly. This is a long boxing match. Trump was politically feeling her out without him losing ground.

    Effectively, Face the Nation is calling this a draw. Trump lost no votes, but Hillary gained no votes. That is a draw: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/26/trumpclintondebate/

    If Face the Nation is calling this a draw, then this is a victory for Trump.

    People are complaining that Trump did not drop the hammer. You do not drop the hammer on the first act. The media was expecting him to drop the hammer. She and the moderator was expecting him to drop the hammer. He did not. That messes with their heads. Instead, he went point for point and got her to lie and lie and lie. While she had no defense to counter with.

    She cannot stand being questioned. So, Trump is wearing her down.

    #312841
    Governor Megachris%
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    Good lordy. One of the late night comedy shows is interviewing people on the streets and one Hispanic girl was asked “what did you think of Trump challenging Hillary by telling her to do pull-ups?”

    The girl said she was SHOCKED (as if this really happened). They followed up by asking “how impressed were you that she actually DID the pull-ups?”

    The girl said she was IMPRESSED and called Trump ignorant for questioning Hillary!

    THESE are our average female voters!!!

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    Anonymous
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    Sorry i’m late to the party guys, I didn’t know that we were gonna do a live stream post of the debates. I think Trump won the first 30 minutes and kinda lost the rest. But i do understand that this is a war. She won the battle but he can still win the war.

    He missed ALOT of points to hit her on. Like school choice, her emails, the 1994 Crime bill, and her treatment of women, AND how Democrats destroyed Detroit, Ferguson, Chicago, Birmingham. The list goes on, online polling shows him winning, but i wanna see the polls in couple of days. Lets see where people went. Remember, in the primaries people said his numbers would go down whenever he said something crazy, that theory may still ring true in the general election

    #312845
    Beer
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    Trump’s weakness in my opinion was he rambled too much. Hillary seemed to present her points better. Although I simply don’t agree with most of her platform or what she wants to do, she at least sounded more prepared and focused.

    However with that being said…it seemed like her entire mission was just to play it safe and not actually engage in debate. She just used her propaganda website as an excuse not to have to defend herself on anything Trump said. She kinda reminded me of the Joe Biden debate where he just laughed like a moron a lot rather than actually debate…just instead of laughing like a moron she kept saying to check her website.

    I don’t think either really won. Hillary deflected a lot, the moderator was biased to the extent I felt like every time Hillary referred to the fact checkers/her website that was code word for change the subject, and Trump just failed to land any power punches.

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    Trump’s weakness in my opinion was he rambled too much. Hillary seemed to present her points better. Although I simply don’t agree with most of her platform or what she wants to do, she at least sounded more prepared and focused.

    However with that being said…it seemed like her entire mission was just to play it safe and not actually engage in debate. She just used her propaganda website as an excuse not to have to defend herself on anything Trump said. She kinda reminded me of the Joe Biden debate where he just laughed like a moron a lot rather than actually debate…just instead of laughing like a moron she kept saying to check her website.

    I don’t think either really won. Hillary deflected a lot, the moderator was biased to the extent I felt like every time Hillary referred to the fact checkers/her website that was code word for change the subject, and Trump just failed to land any power punches.

    Hopefully whoever is preparing him, gets him to stay focused and stay on message. There was so much ammo for him to hit her with, he could have went the entire 90 minutes and not even taken a breath. He should have had notes prepared, he knows exactly what points she is going to raise. I would have had everything down to a science and i would have backed it up with more facts. He was simply unprepared

    #312857
    Joetech
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    When she said that she’d been fighting Isis for years, I thought, “Yeah, and look at the progress we’ve made.” And that sour taste in my mouth appeared.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #312859
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    Rumpole
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    I would give Trump a slight victory on points. On the question about cyber security, he should have seized on Hillary’s private e-mail server and the probable hacking of her files. On foreign policy, he should have pounded her on Benghazi. She and Obama got the “3 AM phone call,” and both fumbled the ball.

    #312864
    Joetech
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    So many people remember that, too. When Hillary played the woman card, he should have invited Roseanne Barr to sing the National Anthem at her next rally.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #312865
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    Joetech
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    On foreign policy, he should have pounded her on Benghazi. She and Obama got the “3 AM phone call,” and both fumbled the ball.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #312938
    Nathan R. Jessep
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    Since this forum is filled with intelligent men, all of which I respect in the highest degree, I am glad to have shared the debate with you.

    I’m afraid trump lost, however. I can handle the truth, and that is what it is.

    On moments he could’ve DECIMATED her, he just rambled on to oblivion. Not good. Not good at all.

    Glad to see someone can.

    Republicans made the wrong choice. So did Democrats, but Republicans really made the wrong choice.

    #312940
    Nathan R. Jessep
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    I see Trump as the opposite of Obama.

    Obama was a great communicator of the people with horrid policies.

    Trump has great policies, but his communication isn’t as concise as Clinton’s (albeit shrill voice) communication.

    As it has been stated, if he comes off too strong, he’ll be seen as a sexist and bully. If he’s too soft, she’ll walk all over him.

    I’m watching this at my family’s house, and my own mother (a conservative Republican her entire life) is telling Trump to shut up because he’s trying to dominate her too much.

    I personally don’t think so…but hearing others’ perspectives (or a gynocentrist’s perspective) tells you who “won” the debate…even if Clinton didn’t win, logically speaking.

    I didn’t see the ‘sexist, bully’ aspect of his behavior but he did act like a petulant child and that would have gone over poorly in any debate.

    #312943
    Nathan R. Jessep
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    “Taking their oil” is a stupid thing to suggest. This is imperialism and s~~~ for an excuse
    It is true though, but I completely oppose imperialism and interventionalism

    Trump is advocating a war crime under the Geneva Convention.

    #314563
    Russky
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    Turns out: not only Hillary had an advanced knowledge of questions and was reading the answers from her notes; not only she had been wired with a wireless earpiece, turns out that she’s been using secret signals to Lester Holt to control the narrative. Watch this video – the s~~~ is incredible

    POKER PRO: Video PROVES Hillary Signals Lester Holt

    talk about rigged debates – the s~~~ is sickening

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

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