Death of a Feminist

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

From Death of a Revolutionary – Firestone about

I think this has been posted about, but I found an interesting quote I thought worth mentioning.

Having been raised through much of my childhood by a conservative, equity (not gender hating) feminist mom, I was always inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt. Here’s proof positive about how wrong I was and how warped the leadership of the feminist movement is. I’m not particularly religious, but the phrase “ye shall know them by their fruits” comes to mind when you realize this “pioneering” feminist died alone, hungry, and apparently insane in welfare housing,

Ok so that part’s been posted already I think. What may not have been is the fact that at her funeral she was applauded as a groundbreaking firebrand, revolutionary, blah blah blah — basically a hero.

The freaky part is this quote from her book “The Dialectic of Sex: The case for feminist revolution” where she makes here intentions very clear:

Unless revolution uproots the basic social organization, the biological family—the vinculum through which the psychology of power can always be smuggled—the tapeworm of exploitation will never be annihilated,” Firestone wrote. She elaborated, with characteristic bluntness: “Pregnancy is barbaric”; childbirth is “like s~~~ting a pumpkin”; and childhood is “a supervised nightmare.”

If you asked the vast majority of women who consider themselves feminists if they think feminism’s primary mission is or should be to destroy the biological family, I really believe your average office feminist hipster would say no.

This could potentially be their Achilles’ heel – if we can point to Shulamith Firestone and not that she necessarily speaks for all women or feminists, but that the leadership of the movement clearly applaud her viewpoints, it might open a few eyes, and that’s the beginning of change.

Disclaimer: I don’t necessarily think it’s our responsibility to foment change, but I wouldn’t mind seeing it happen in my lifetime.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

As long as she stays dead …. I’m ok with her babble & rantings.

With a bit of luck they’ll all end up that way. Alone, mad and dead.

[Anonymous 1]

It was hard to say which moment the mourners were there to mark: the passing of Firestone or that of a whole generation of feminists who had been unable to thrive in the world they had done so much to create.

You made your bed ladies, time to lie in it.

[Anonymous 42]

“Death of a feminist” sounds derogatory, their already dead, just the body caught up,

[OldBillParticipant]

If you want a quick primer on just how f~~~ing delusional these elderly feminists are, read the last few paragraphs of the linked New Yorker piece.

Karma caught up with that evil c~~~ Firestone in a big way. She’d slipped into recurring mental illnesses by the 80s and for a few years was haphazardly helped by members of the feminist movement she’d help found. They’d appear at random intervals, pat her hand, publish a few of her increasingly insane essays, and help her with living arrangements, meds, and money before flitting off again.

None of them stuck around long enough to truly help Firestone because women know no loyalty even to their own.

When something new and shiny attracted their attention, off they’d go to leave their vulnerable, mentally ill, “sister” increasingly alone, increasingly helpless, and increasingly damaged. By the late 90s, Firestone was a permanent recluse whose fellow feminists would “visit” and “check on” by walking by her empty windows and waving. Finally, in 2012 when her rent had been unpaid for months, the police broke into her apartment to find her withered husk on the floor. Firestone had starved to death.

Her remaining family, which she’d driven away decades before, are Orthodox Jews and observed the rituals of their faith. One of them spoke at the eulogy bemoaning the fact that Firestone had failed to make a lasting relationship, let alone a marriage, and failed have children who could have looked after her. The self absorbed feminist c~~~s who claimed to be Firestone’s “friends” took umbrage. One deluded harridan had the temerity to claim that Firestone was a model for women and that she had children because she had influenced thousands of women.

Role models don’t starve to death in the grips of a treatable mental illness and none of those thousands of women Firestone influenced gave enough of a f~~~ to check up on her. Firestone wanted to destroy the biological family and it was the lack of a family, either biological or ideological, which doomed her. She got what she wanted good and hard.

Karma’s a bitch and it carried another bitch off to hell.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 5]

Not only does the “The Dialectic of Sex” by Firestone blame the traditional family for all the evils and oppression of MANkind but so does “The Female Eunuch” by Germaine Greer in the same year. Even Wikipeadia states Greer’s premise of TFE in the first paragraph;
“traditional” suburban, consumerist, nuclear family represses women sexually, and that this devitalises them, rendering them eunuchs”
If ever there was a nasty piece of attention seeking hatred, it’s Germaine Greer. She’s adored by countless millions of feminists.

All women want from marriage is a resource to facilitate their social aspirations. Once they get that legal power over men, then the men themselves become redundant.

P.S. It’s a shame Firestone didn’t have a few cats, it would have been the perfect ending.

[Anonymous 29]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Unless revolution uproots the basic social organization, the biological family—the vinculum through which the psychology of power can always be smuggled—the tapeworm of exploitation will never be annihilated,” Firestone wrote. She elaborated, with characteristic bluntness: “Pregnancy is barbaric”; childbirth is “like s~~~ting a pumpkin”; and childhood is “a supervised nightmare.”

This reminds me of how the good book of christendom was written. Written by dozens if not hundreds of men, of which majority were so absorbed in a world of ignorance and fear that they could not see reason but relied on their illogical imagination of how things were done and how they would be. So is it any wonder, that such twisted ideas permeated the society in the form of the holy bible. So, is it any wonder why she wrote what she did ? A sick minds writing, soon to be viewed as gospel in feminist religion.

btw: are you “Life Of Brian ” fan ?

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

OldBill wrote:

If you want a quick primer on just how f~~~ing delusional these elderly feminists are, read the last few paragraphs of the linked New Yorker piece.
Karma caught up with that evil c~~~ Firestone in a big way. She’d slipped into recurring mental illnesses by the 80s and for a few years was haphazardly helped by members of the feminist movement she’d help found. They’d appear at random intervals, pat her hand, publish a few of her increasingly insane essays, and help her with living arrangements, meds, and money before flitting off again.
None of them stuck around long enough to truly help Firestone because women know no loyalty even to their own.
When something new and shiny attracted their attention, off they’d go to leave their vulnerable, mentally ill, “sister” increasingly alone, increasingly helpless, and increasingly damaged. By the late 90s, Firestone was a permanent recluse whose fellow feminists would “visit” and “check on” by walking by her empty windows and waving. Finally, in 2012 when her rent had been unpaid for months, the police broke into her apartment to find her withered husk on the floor. Firestone had starved to death.
Her remaining family, which she’d driven away decades before, are Orthodox Jews and observed the rituals of their faith. One of them spoke at the eulogy bemoaning the fact that Firestone had failed to make a lasting relationship, let alone a marriage, and failed have children who could have looked after her. The self absorbed feminist c~~~s who claimed to be Firestone’s “friends” took umbrage. One deluded harridan had the temerity to claim that Firestone was a model for women and that she had children because she had influenced thousands of women.
Role models don’t starve to death in the grips of a treatable mental illness and none of those thousands of women Firestone influenced gave enough of a f~~~ to check up on her. Firestone wanted to destroy the biological family and it was the lack of a family, either biological or ideological, which doomed her. She got what she wanted good and hard.
Karma’s a bitch and it carried another bitch off to hell.

Holy crap dude – from your keyboard to God’s monitor! You recall our brother who left a heartfelt “goodbye” because he needed to devote all his energy to fighting cancer? What do you want to bet that if someone like him from our movement was as big of a founding figure as she was for feminism, award winning author etc, that at least one brother if not multiple would be stopping by to make sure he had everything he needed. Every. F~~~ing. Day.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Why yes I am a Life of Brian Fan.

“He has a wife you know. Her name is Incontinentia. Incontinentia Buttocks”

“Centiuwion strike him! And thwow him to the gwound!”

–Cheers!

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

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