Deadnaming

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Here’s a story in the San Francisco Gate about the local authorities being taken to task for not doing enough to respect the identities of trans people who died in a fire. The comments are f~~~ing GOLD. Go read them before the Gate erases them all and closes the thread.

[Identifying a trans individual by their legal name and gender] is a practice called deadnaming in trans communities — and while it’s sometimes done accidentally, it’s also sometimes done intentionally to deny and oppress trans people.

Uh, if it’s that f~~~ing important to you, have it legally changed. I had my name legally changed. It was easy.

She was a person of multiplicities, and she didn’t always have one name,” Wicks-Frank said. “It depended who you asked and how you related to each other. Her life was complex.

In other words, “she” was crazy.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/For-transgender-victims-respect-starts-with-10778941.php

[MagnusParticipant 30]

Utterly insane.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Jesus f~~~ing Christ…

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[High RollerParticipant 157]

They’re complaining about something that they themselves could have prevented from happening very easily. If transgenders care that much about being called by their trans name, they should’ve had it changed and not stayed with a birth name they no longer identified with.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I posted a comment making the point that calling someone by their chosen name and gender identity could be outing them if their families were unaware of it before.

How would you feel if the cops went to your house and told them that their daughter “Twinklestar Ramsbottom” died in a fire and handed them a box with your wallet, a dog collar and a half-charred buttplug in it. Your poor grandmother would die of the shock.

And one of the now-melted snowflakes was apparently so whacked out of her moony brain that she had different names and identities for everyone she interacted with. Try being a blue collar detective type tasked with unraveling that ball of yarn!

The problem with these kids is that they’ve never experienced any ACTUAL pain/trauma/difficulty in their lives so they’re having to concoct these imaginary tribulations to feel like they’re accomplishing something.

Send ’em off to war, I say!

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

*shrug* Out of curiosity, are you aware if you know any trans persons? I’ve known a few. Their lives usually aren’t fun during transition. That said, all the ones I’ve known (and it’s not many) who started transition at a young age (teens-twenties) passed completely and totally in society after they were through with transition.

Many states don’t allow people to legally change their names easily; many states don’t allow people to change the gender markers on their identification at all, even after sexual reassignment surgery. This can present a danger for those transgender persons faced with, say, violent and insane hatred or physical attack.

The rural areas I’m connected to do jack all to preserve the legal rights of black people, who are often abused at every step of the way by the system. My limited understanding of this is that transgender persons face higher risks legally and physically.

I’m also curious why anyone really cares that much. Transgender advocates themselves generally claim to be such a small percentage of the population as to be statistically irrelevant. . . in this genetic milieu. In Thailand, Vietnam, India, and other societies, transgender folk – again, to my very limited understanding – make up a solid 1-2% of the population.

My own faith has very little to say on the matter, which is what largely guides me nowadays. There have been some knee jerk reactions, but not a lot actually guided by our religious works. I know that Shia Islam (Iran, amongst others) do accept trans persons although homosexuality is forbidden.

I want the least government possible, that best protects the rights of individuals. Formal PAPERS PLEASE are a fairly recent development in the world, and I’m not convinced a good one.

I also have various names, as do many cultures, such as, say, Native Americans. I don’t see this as especially prohibitive.

Why do you care?

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