Dating for 7 years, ultimatum was kids and marriage or a break-up.

[BatouttahellParticipant 11]

I dated the same complaining, manipulative, cry-baby, spoiled, delusional girl for the past seven years. She is still hot as f~~~, I’ll give her that.We used to be happy. I am 30, she is 32. After her 30th birthday the topic of marriage and kids started to boil to the surface on a WEEKLY basis. I managed to convince her to lay off the subject for a year. But then came her 31st birthday and all the crazy-talk about having kids came back with a vengeance. I have been living in anxiety because I always thought marriage was bulls~~~ and the thought of kids is meh. I was blue pill up until about 6 months ago.

She just turned 32 and has been pressing the marriage and kids button all the time. I finally found the courage, in a big way thanks to MGTOW, to tell her <b>NO</b>. There will be no marriage and there will be no kids. We are now breaking up. I didn’t want to break up, she could not deal with my decision. I am now free. Thanks guys, I will be single from here on out. I feel emotionally drained but also liberated. Its like the chick is hardwired to get married and have kids and no logical arguement will suffice to show her otherwise. She had it good, I did everything I could to make her happy. I won’t look back. Thanks MGTOW, you saved me from a slow death of sexless agony. I will now be rock climbing way more often and working on my business to take off.

Best wishes.

Batouttahell.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Take some ‘you’ time now brother. Just let everything settle.

Maybe take a vacation.

I know it was hard and you probably feel raw …. but wounds heal and life will now be worth living.

Strength ☺

[RoyDalParticipant]

Congratulations! You have cast off your shackles and chains.

You will discover you have time money to yourself that you never knew was there. Spend them wisely, and on you for a change.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

Good for you Bat. However, be aware she might start using feelers to make you jealous and whatever you do don’t give in to her demands. You’ve been on this site and you know the deal with female nature. She will use her sexuality to other guys to try to make you jealous and trap you. You know the end result giving in to her demands. It’s a life of imprisonment and slavery. Be strong.

[ThomasQuinnParticipant 50]

Their is no logical sense in the current marriage contract other then to please the woman. For whatever reason she needs this contract in order to be “happy” which is sad but typical of woman. You are extremely lucky she didn’t trap you with a kid after 7 years. And congrats on not being trapped into the worst contract known to man.

Imagine if she had set higher goals for herself in life instead of just getting married and having kid(s) which is all supportted by the man .

 

 

[experiencedParticipant]

Only one person in the “marriage xtract” agrees to do anything: the male and the male only. IOW you chose wisely.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

congrat’s bat,

It sounds as if you’ve achieved (at least for a while) a fair and equitable relationship with a woman… where both of you brought something of equal value to the table, and both of you left with with what you brought.  Two equal parties in a relationship of equal mutual benefit of each other’s company where neither had to pay the other for participating.

In retrospect, you broke even.  You were in a relationship with a woman and you neither profited or lost anything from it.  Financially, you are exactly where you would have been had the relationship never occurred.  Yet, we celebrate this as a victory for you, and her and her friends will lament this as a disappointing loss for her.  She ‘only’ broke even.

Think on that for a while…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

A great example for me, If I ever consider dating. Great job man ! Enjoy your life !

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[BatouttahellParticipant 11]

Thanks for all the support guys. I have been checking back here on a regular basis. It really helps to know there is a whole network of MGTOWs that think alike. Thinking back now, I dated for way too long. A lot of it was fun, great sex, traveling to diferent countries. But f~~~, I forgave her for too much s~~~.

For example:

This year in december one of my best friends suddenly passed away from a heart anomaly. I met him only six months prior. Just a fantastic friendship that no woman will ever understand. We just hit it off and always had a great time together talking s~~~ and walking around. After he passed I was in grief for a couple of weeks, her reaction was “you only met him six months ago”. I mean f~~~, f~~~ her, insensitive bitch, f~~~ that s~~~. I always supported her, and when I needed her only onBce, after seven years of being there for her, throughout all her moods, she was a bitch.(runnon sentence)

I thought about dumping her on the spot, but as I was an emotional wreck for those few days, I forgave her. F~~~ that.

Never let a BITCH walk all over your feelings. Be a man. Be MGTOW. I will never let something like that happen again.

God speed

Bat.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Don’t you know, once you get fully seduced, that your friends become disposable?  But her friends are “BFFs for life”!

Sovereignty above all else.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

So, you finally got the expiration date on the relationship made known to you, and it probably was a number of years before, but it was left in the fridge too long.

Now you know it is over, you move on.  Kudos!

The said “Civil” way I would have here is, “Well, I guess we have a disagreement on the way things should be. So, see ya!”

Sooner this expiration date is know, the better everyone is.  But, I guess women have this delusion they can work some sort of alchemy and make it never happen. Women magazines sell women recipes for incantations and they end up getting sold lies of the transmutation of men into their ideal Ken dolls.  The core of the recipe is draining the essence of a man in a pot and mixing in a bunch of other things, and “blammo” the relationship is saved.  These magazines also have a woman do the same to herself, having her bye into the status quo, to try to get the mythical man for herself.

It is all manipulation.  Good you are out, and pardon my rant.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Batouttahell wrote:

Its like the chick is hardwired to get married and have kids and no logical arguement will suffice to show her otherwise.

What do you expect? The wall is coming for her fast and she needs a retirement plan. That retirement plan was supposed to be you. Marriage and kids are her way of locking you into it and the family courts are there to enforce it whatever she (and she alone) decides in the future. And that’s all she ever cared about.

After a seven year relationship, more than one fifth of your entire life so far, look at how quickly she discarded you once it became clear to her that she wasn’t getting her retirement plan. She didn’t care one jot about your relationship, and she sure as f~~~ didn’t care about you. All she ever cared about was herself and her retirement plan.

What a selfish, greedy bitch. Expect her to be married to some poor unwitting schmuck within the year.

ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Batouttahell wrote:

I dated the same complaining, manipulative, cry-baby, spoiled, delusional girl for the past seven years. She is still hot as f~~~, I’ll give her that.We used to be happy. I am 30, she is 32. After her 30th birthday the topic of marriage and kids started to boil to the surface on a WEEKLY basis. I managed to convince her to lay off the subject for a year. But then came her 31st birthday and all the crazy-talk about having kids came back with a vengeance. I have been living in anxiety because I always thought marriage was bulls~~~ and the thought of kids is meh. I was blue pill up until about 6 months ago.

It’s amazing how the vast majority of them are like that. 30 = panic! It’s almost as if they are born with a 30 year fuse that evaporates at the age of 30.

Batouttahell wrote:

She just turned 32 and has been pressing the marriage and kids button all the time. I finally found the courage, in a big way thanks to MGTOW, to tell her <b>NO</b>. There will be no marriage and there will be no kids. We are now breaking up. I didn’t want to break up, she could not deal with my decision. I am now free. Thanks guys, I will be single from here on out. I feel emotionally drained but also liberated. Its like the chick is hardwired to get married and have kids and no logical arguement will suffice to show her otherwise. She had it good, I did everything I could to make her happy. I won’t look back. Thanks MGTOW, you saved me from a slow death of sexless agony. I will now be rock climbing way more often and working on my business to take off.

I’ve been there, and I have no regrets. Emotionally drained but liberated is a good way to describe it. I also felt like the weight of the world was off my shoulders. Give it some time for yourself and you’ll be happier and better than ever.

[HuckFinnParticipant 5]

Strength and honor, brother!

Cheers!

[HuckFinnParticipant 5]

oh! also you should check up on the common law marriage statutes in your state and keep them very much in mind should you find yourself in these waters again.

Cheers!

[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

“Yet, we celebrate this as a victory for you, and her and her friends will lament this as a disappointing loss for her.  She ‘only’ broke even.”

Are you sure? Won’t they tell her she “can do so much better” “I never liked him anyway” “You were too good for him!” and all the other sisters bulls~~~ they tell themselves makes girl/girl friendships better than male friendships.

[Mana KnightParticipant 333]

Also, Bat – congrats.
I was in the same situation, though I only got 9 months before I got the marriage and baby guarantee demands made. I stalled it for a year, but it reared its head a couple of time in that period. It is sad in a way as she was never as into the relationship when she realised there was no guarantee she would get her princess endings.

Like you I treated her so well and we were happy till she brought this up. For me it was probably babies more than marriage to be honest. But she would listen to no logic about finance (she wanted 3 kids), health ( so so so many health problems including terrible back pain, hormonal (only had a period bi-monthly) ) and a bunch of things I could see going so worse for after pregnancy.

Despite acknowledging nobody was nicer, sweeter, more affectionate, had done more, made her laugh more, enjoyed her time more with, felt at one with…..guess what? Without marriage and babies it meant NOTHING to her. She would rather take Mr Dickweed average if he gave her marriage and kids. That is all that mattered, and that is sad.

But I come to this forum and remind myself why it is a good thing. Why i WILL be better in the long-run.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Same thing happened to me but it was closer to 8 years and just the marriage ultimatum. Cant remember exactly how it was worded or exactly how I responded but I said something like “there will never be another Mrs. Hallam” or “I am never going to get married again”. Three months later she told me she wanted to leave. Twenty five years later I’m in a way better place, and she is a single lonely grey-haired cat woman, who claims she’s had a happy life.

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