Crazy lying ho

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

I do not write this lightly, and it has taken me a long time to face what I saw after being in an abusive relationship with this woman. She managed to convince me I was wrong about everything, and only by being away for a long time can I now see what a controlling abusive person this woman is.

I believe a woman called A, is a genuine sociopath.

After meeting and falling for A, when she was a single mother of a little girl at 2yrs old, I helped her move to a different city in in November 2015 to start a new job and be closer to her family for more support for her.

I used to stay there for long periods of time whilst we dated, and I became the defacto parent in the house.

The child like all toddlers, would wake up early. A would refuse to get out of bed for her. If child came in asking for milk and cartoons at 7am, A would not get up until 10:30, no matter how many tears or tantrums. She couldn’t care less.

This used to really upset me, so every day, whether I’d had any sleep or not, the second child came in the room and wanted cartoons and milk, I would get up for her and provide.

A was part time working at this point. There was no work excuse of tiredness etc. She had no empathy.

After dating A for a while, I started to see a sadistic side. She tried to control me badly, using things I’d trusted her with against me, and I was doing all childcare for child, from getting up with her to feeding her to taking her and picking her up from nursery.

A had no interest in her and I could see it. I believe she deliberately got pregnant with her ex, as a trap, as she has ZERO interest in loving and providing for a child and putting them first. Indeed in my experience A has no real emotions. She’s good at faking them, but when you know and get close to her, she’s a skilled chameleon and a compulsive liar.

One day in March 2016, child had been potty trained for a while, but she was accidently late that evening in making it to the toilet and urinated on the bathroom floor. This largely happened because child was trying to get A’s attention, and A kept telling her to wait because she couldn’t be bothered to get off the sofa.

When we heard crying from the bathroom (because child was upset she didn’t make it to the loo), A was angry, her face changed. She went to the bathroom.

A minute or so later I heard child crying again but this time frantic, and saying “no mummy!!!”

I went to see what was going on, and found A flushing childs head down the toilet!!
Shouting at her telling her this is what happens when you p~~~ on the bathroom floor.

I told A “That’s enough! ”

She stopped.

Later that month A flipped again (this time at me), and I saw an evil angry person. This was because I’d been out of the house for an hour without her permission.

A few weeks later I was putting child to bed and A decided to join me for once.

Then after reading child a story, child was being slightly bratty and refusing to go to sleep and wanted more stories. A smothered her with the pillow!

Again I had to tell her “that’s enough!”

But I saw the enjoyment in A’s eyes of the power she had over child.

There are other stories, mostly neglect, but these are the ones that have haunted me for a year.

I didn’t escape her foul tirades, so it has taken me being away from her since November until now, to find the strength to admit to myself what an evil manipulator she was. She had me convinced she was always right and I was wrong, and used all of my own past etc that I’d been honest about to her, mistakes I’d made etc, shared in loving honesty, against me and used every bit against me.

This girl is dangerous. She’s a functional sociopath as far as I’m concerned, perhaps even psychotic.

Her brother has been in endless trouble with the police because he has a lower functioning version of sociopathic behaviour. I believe A’s family have passed the same issues to A, but she is clever enough to use her good body etc to control males to get what she wants, and escape true evaluation.

When she’s been an evil screaming psychotic at me, she has admitted to me that she has a problem and needs counselling, but a week later she denies she even said that!

She has told me her mother used to beat her with a wooden spoon when she was a child. I have a suspicion A and her brother were encouraged towards incest too from snippets of honesty from her.

I say this because I can see A repeating this abusive pattern. Very sad and I really loved them both 🙁

So there you go.

There’s loads more. But that’s the crux.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome to the forums .

Woman abuse kids alot and it is looked at as normal like woman can do what they want . F~~~ woman .Then those same woman will carry on about the smallest s~~~ a does or says like they are some perfect c~~~s .

Woman are evil

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

Her cheating ability with lies was fascinating, and I’d love to hear more from guys who saw similar things.

Basically she seems to have been f~~~ing other guys when out, in the car in her lunch break etc, I even found an accidental audio recording on her phone of her having an orgasm whilst the car was revving in the background (as in she was having sex in driving seat and one.of them had their feet accidently on the throttle pedal). She flat out denied it, despite the recording lol!!

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

Thanks. Totally agree.

[Back in BlackParticipant 1732]

My mother used to beat us with wooden spoons till they broke. Pretty f~~~ed up but we all worked through our s~~~ and came out pretty good. Being raised by a f~~~ed up parent is no excuse for future f~~~ed up behavior.

"Women are directly adapted to act as the nurses and educators of our early childhood, for the simple reason that they themselves are childish, foolish, and short-sighted—in a word, are big children all their lives, something intermediate between the child and the man, who is a man in the strict sense of the word. Consider how a young girl will toy day after day with a child, dance with it and sing to it; and then consider what a man, with the very best intentions in the world, could do in her place.” Quote from Arthur Shopenhauer, 17th century philosopher

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

Yeah I know it’s no excuse. She almost enjoys talking about this weird upbringing like it turns her on.

Indeed you take your lessons and move on, not make excuses for your hideous behaviour

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

are you still with her?????

You should call Child Services on her immediately and report those two things she did. You may save that kids life.

You don’t deserve to be manipulated the way she did. She was using “gaslighting”, a tactic where you convince someone else they’re crazy. For example when she denied saying shed’ go to counseling, etc, its all designed to make you think you’re nuts.

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

Wow you sound like one of the countless men that my mom dated while raising me. Stay strong dude.

I know it hurts inside. A whole damn lot! But it gets better. That hole inside of you will be filled with personal happiness, freedom, and serenity. It will just take time.

Don’t date any more single mothers and you’ll be alright.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

Thanks man, yeah I’ve since figured she was gaslighting me.

Luckily I sort of knew at the time, so kept a bit.of.myself alive. But I was addicted to her filthy bedroom anticts and pussy.

No I left her in November.

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

She is a Demon.

Best to remove yourself from her influence. Too bad for the child, but you wouldn’t get custody anyway.

The more time you spend with her the more power she has over you. Don’t waste your life. She will drain all your energy and leave you an empty husk of a man wondering where your life went.

She will not change. Forget it.

Break free. If you need a woman then look elsewhere. Your time is limited. She doesn’t care.

Stop it.

Get some help?

It's Time to get Wise

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

RichFender wrote:

Later that month A flipped again (this time at me), and I saw an evil angry person. This was because I’d been out of the house for an hour without her permission.

DUDE!!! Read what you wrote. SHe is your CAPTOR.

F~~~ this bitch. Get out now!!!!

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

We all do similar stuff, bro. We all try to HELP people who are BROKEN and can’t be helped. THey have to help themselves.

I do that all the time. I had to ask myself, “Why? Why am I attracted to broken people? Does trying to help people who can’t be helped fill some void within me?” The answer was yes. I had a void within me and was (unsuccessfully) trying to fill that void through helping people who can’t be helped.

I’ve learned through MGTOW that I have to help myself FIRST and then that void will go away and I won’t need to help people who can’t be helped.

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

Yeah I left her in November 😉

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Single mother.
‘nough said.

Monk

[Anonymous 6]

RichFender wrote:

No I left her in November.

Good to hear you have escaped free and clear, the bitch was single for a reason and that poor child must be traumatised.

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

Yeah it was tough. When I saw the sociopath mask slip in March, I would have left her if it was just her.

But I was already bonded with her daughter and was terrified after seeing her behaviour, what she would do to her when I was gone.

So I kept myself in the firing line from March to November until finally realising I was starting to get the symptoms of ptsd living with this c~~~ and there was nothing I could do to protect the child because she wasn’t mine so had no rights. Was tough but hey, I left. Have been zero contact for 6 weeks at this point.

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

RichFender wrote:

Yeah it was tough. When I saw the sociopath mask slip in March, I would have left her if it was just her.

But I was already bonded with her daughter and was terrified after seeing her behaviour, what she would do to her when I.was gone.

So.I kept myself in.the firing line from March to November until finally realising I was starting to get the symptoms of ptsd living with this c~~~ abd there was nothing I could do to protect the child because she wasn’t mine so had no rights. Was tough but hey, I left. Have been zero contact for 6 weeks at this point.

Dude CONGRATS!!!!

You know how many men NEVER make it out of the hell you were in???

Notice how in November something SWTICHED IN YOU – your gut instinct. We all have it here at MGTOW. We know when its time to GET THE F~~~ OUT.

Now its just a matter of STAYING away from these crazy bitches

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, RF
Beer’s in the fridge
Keep reading and posting. You are a good man that got manipulated by a bad woman. Your healing process started last November. Look forward to hearing from you.

[RichFenderParticipant 24]

Thanks surf.

Yeah was hard, and I’m still having epiphanies every day about something or other she lied about. Arguments spin around my mind still.

But I’m in charge now, despite her sending naked photos etc.

Toxic slut. Meh.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Back in Black wrote:

My mother used to beat us with wooden spoons till they broke. Pretty f~~~ed up but we all worked through our s~~~ and came out pretty good. Being raised by a f~~~ed up parent is no excuse for future f~~~ed up behavior.

My (adoptive) mother was pretty f~~~ed-up. I have only ever told a couple of very close and trusted friends about her. I won’t talk details here because TBH, it’s too f~~~ed up to be believed.

She never wanted kids and she made that obvious. It was my dad who wanted children and so she went along so as not to p~~~ off her meal ticket.

I suspect that having a f~~~ed-up mother might be more common than what most people would like to think…

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