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  • #215303
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    Okami
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    Here’s me, age 23. Forced studied culinary & working in it. I thought I can nurture a passion for it but nay, now I grew to resent it instead. After a few more months, my lease on rent will end & I can opt out of this job. Still, I came across the split road once again.

    First, I have a thing for mechs. But the problem is I don’t know where to start anything. College or any higher form of ed in my country is basically screaming “GIVE US YOUR MONEY”. The only way I can see ( or somewhat cheaper alternative that won’t bankrupt me ) is internship, apprentice or some program to get me on track. Moreover, some of these programs really wants people for their attitude & not their grades ( I didn’t do well in school, I really hate their quota but somehow I can self learned abit of Music theory, programming and few foreign languages when I feel interested ).
    My country is still a developing one, had potential & in need of engineers ( but nowhere near US or Europe ) That’s why they need people because many great ones imported themselves outward hence brain drain.

    Second, I can really self learn alot of s~~~ since there’s the internet and now that I’ve just recently come to terms of my existential crisis, there’s no border for me to stop myself to improve oneself anymore. Atlas, this route followed the rules of random & chaos. Oppurtunity & cost. But still, as my understanding of life digs deeper ( not genius, however, I can relate to any matter of teachings & discipline ) I really wanted to settle for a quiet life, plant some stuff, tea & scenery. Of course I know about the lesson of no work, no food!

    Now looking at it, should I pursue blindly for my “maybe” passion that I know nothing about it’s field or going for my quiet life I’ve dreamt of & slowly improve myself overall?

    Any question or advice is appreciated.

    Meh..

    #215382
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    Enjoy The Decline
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    You better learn a lot of sh*t when you are young and have the drive, because when you become older, it will only get harder. You just need to focus on something that can make you grow as a person and can also help you develop skills that can actually make you more money per hour than the minimum wage at least. And one more thing, culinary school is a scam. You are better off gaining experience and go up the chef ladder if you do wish to become an awesome chef one day. Paying so much money to go to culinary school is not worth it, because you would most probably not make that much more money per hour in the beginning, which would not make up for the culinary school tuition very well. If you are going to culinary school anyways, make sure that you can get certified by a nationally recognized chef/cooking organization. I would also recommend going into an apprenticeship where they pay you and make you learn on the job at the same time. Doesn’t hurt to try since even if you fail, you would not lose a lot of money out of it at all. It is sometimes the mistakes in life that make you grow as a person because then you would learn more about yourself from them.

    "Question everything" - Albert Einstein

    #215395
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    Blue Skies
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    some ppl say: follow your dreams, follow your passions.

    i think better advice would be:
    develop skills that have VALUE….if your dreams are to be a painter, that has little value…don’t follow your dreams.

    ideally, you enjoy doing the things that have value…however, this is not always the case.

    MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

    #215396
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    Blue Skies
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    for what its worth…..thats my two cents ^^^

    MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

    #215445
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    Crazy Canuck
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    Talk to someone in the field, that’s the only way you’ll know.

    "If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

    #215494
    Okami
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    @Enjoy The Decline

    Eh, I already did the field & after the first month of actual work employment, I’m already in position of line cook. Don’t worry about the money though, I was forced into it so it wasn’t mine. I have no debt & had abit of savings by now. Still, looking at my situation now.. The work is REALLY repetitive & the long hours meant you got no time for any personal skills development. That’s what really kills me off. Promotion? I heard from almost everyone that they worked for more than 20years, nothing happened. Corporation profit reaks everywhere.

    Anyway, you’re right. Current path already taught me many & changed my perspective. I’m also humbly grateful for the one that gave me this oppurtunity because now I have a skillset ( Cook ) that won’t make me go hungry. However, I’m already starting to clean my slate now, 0 , ready to start something new again because this thing is in ” Done this, been there ” like other retired crew.

    From my perspective, like you ( The decline, I’m a fanatic to historic events, Rome & Babylonians & stuff ) I predict that something gonna echo slowly worldwide since mgtow & marriage decline is a world phenomenon. Culinary delights? HA! The mass gonna be poor by then. Everyone’s already frantically saving for everything. That’s why now I’m looking towards something else since I already know one mastery to chain another. Maybe carpentry or something that can help me build stuff.

    That’s it.. Something to help me build stuff.

    @Saver

    That’s what I’ve been trying to do. I already saw this current thing isn’t worth much to me anymore because of it’s cons weight more than pros. Ideally, now I WANT skillsets that have value to reality since I’m already woken up to it – the decline. So my question would be, should I go for it academically or just charge in hands on. Charging in sounds alot better to me. By the way, I’m always looking at things that people don’t do, call me outcast but I saw oppurtunity there, things like manual building stuff & work. Current younglings that don’t do.

    @CrazyCanuck

    No thanks, small talks with them already reveal that somehow I’m more matured to their thoughts. They’re over 30 or 40 and yet it’s like talking to childrens. Moreover, they are blue pill drugged & most of them are half insane driven by the industry. Backstab & bulls~~~ is a common face around here, that’s why I wanted O.U.T.

    Meh..

    #215499
    Blue Skies
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    Charging in sounds alot better to me.

    charge right in pal!
    tuition is so overpriced.

    MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

    #215736
    Okami
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    Thanks for the pitch.

    Saver really helps me confirmed many of my statements. It’s glad to hear it from someone other than those drugged-society-face-dependent-zombies. Gave me abit of confidence & assurance back too.

    @code Bunker

    Yea, man. I heard ya about programming. From what we’ve seen, our timeline will surely interwine with a future somewhat like the animation ” Ghost In The Shell “. Programming, Mech & Engineering will be major players on top of all this. Either that or World War 3.

    Conclusion, since I’m already somewhat living as a loner, what @code Bunker lay appeals the second path more.. Improve my s~~~ to a point I can start to CREATE stuff.
    Or.. going for the road more travelled, take intern job under engineering ( All expense fully covered ).

    I hoped I’m able to poke abit more around. It’s not really about what I do, I’m happy as long I’m learning.. but it’s more about the time that will spent on the stuff, that intern gonna cost me atleast 2 years & I already wasted front bullets on overcoming early life crisis & gained experience.

    Meh..

    #215738
    Enjoy The Decline
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    Anyway, you’re right. Current path already taught me many & changed my perspective. I’m also humbly grateful for the one that gave me this oppurtunity because now I have a skillset ( Cook ) that won’t make me go hungry. However, I’m already starting to clean my slate now, 0 , ready to start something new again because this thing is in ” Done this, been there ” like other retired crew.

    Thanks for the warning. I just completed my food handler certificate myself(did not take much to get it and it is recognized by the government) and I wish to become a cook’s helper or prep cook very soon. It is going to suck that the job is going to get old once I do master everything and there is nothing left to grow as a person in. But luckily, while I do that job, it is going to buy me some time while I am gonna do research of some sort of how I am going to make it big in terms of making a lot of money. Maybe I will become an entrepreneur, who knows. You need money to make money, that is the truth. Also, I agree with Code Bunker, Saver$ gave some good advice. There are jobs that no one wants to do because it is too hard or mind numbing, but usually these jobs are in high demand I believe. Over where I live for instance, anyone with any education can become a building cleaner, but not many people wish to do it which is why they can make a half decent income just to get people to do the job that is needed in society.

    "Question everything" - Albert Einstein

    #215751
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    Okami
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    @Enjoy The Decline

    Well don’t take my words for it, just put it aside for later. My part IS from ASIA, that means hard work is a norm. Imagine this, 1 month, less than 3days off with more than 12 hours in atleast. Slave or zombie? Not to mean to scare you off, there are still humane kitchen conditions for cook out there.
    Your part should have more space, plus you people are really more open minded than ours, A HELL LOT.
    In my experience, if you’re going for this route, advice from a friend to another.

    -First thing I’ve learnt. Don’t hope for oppurtunity to find you. Sure, get lucky under someone’s eye, but the only way you’re gonna get somewhere is ” Complete and understand your job, show them then DEMAND them that you’re ready for something new ” If they don’t even give you a shot on the front, polish, wait & cycle to another kitchen.

    Anyway, if you need more, you can ask, thats what brothers do. Like you, I’m buying time too, to really hit something. Supply & demand or in Service or Product. Well since I’m from face culture & cheap labor, Service is always low paid unless you have the skills. One of the reason I’m sorting out between learning to provide or to create.
    On the plus side, robots are pretty cool.

    Meh..

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