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There is ONE thing that makes me wonder. If we take Silicon to it’s natural endpoint? You get a Biological organism. Or? You get that Magic Eather Fairy dust stuff.
Look, SILICON and I’c’s DO NOT self generate. So . If you want something that is going to last a LONG time, AND be immune to things such as EMP etc? You need to have some kind of Self Replicating system. Just like a file system. If you wanted to make sure there was life? Or intelligence? Why use something as FRAGILE as SILICON? It has its place, but overtime, they ALL degrade. Even if you put a CRAP TON of Back ups, there is a chance for them to degrade. Even Vacuum tubes lose their Vacuum after a while.
Quartz for example has a natural frequency. Quartz as far as I know does not change its oscillation frequency to often. And is for the most part stable. Gold and Lead diamonds and rubies and gems are about the only things I know that stay in that state pretty much forever.
Hard coded memory would be EASY to do. Just 3D encoded rubies or Etch the information Inside of diamond. Problem is READING IT. THe Laser diode after a while WILL die. Or degrade.
I have no doubt that there are Libraries of Data all around the world that are encoded in either crystalls or some other kind of thing.
Techingly we made RAM that is very slow, but really is about the most robust stuff out there. So we could have that but it’s slow by today’s standards. Still, you got a lot of time right?
In fact, no matter how you stack it, using self replicating Biological organisms is the way to go. Kind of like a Hash used for cryptography, the WHOLE makes up a few some of numbers. Do this Backwards? And you can find the sum of numbers or patterns needed. So you could in THEORY take a smaller hexadecimal octets patterns and expand them.
Code something like that in DNA, and you got the same thing even MILLIONS of years down the line. You can even track changes over time.
So, what is the Point? I don’t really know. But it could be done.
Thing is, you COULD make a spaceship that could self replicate and repair itself. But really, you would have to make it some kind of hybrid. Also, it’s completely possible to reanimate life. THere are Lifeforms on EARTH that do this. They did this with a BRIAN not to long ago. BUT, we humans just don’t have that Built in to our DNA.
See, THAT is what I think went wrong. I think that someone went CRAZY with the DNA Sequencer. Made some Wicked f~~~ing crap, and that killed a S~~~ ton of people, or something REALLY went wrong. OR? Humans from that TIme period just Loaded up all their “Selves” into a Ship and took off to a warmer place. WHo knows? Thing is, WE still assume that as Humans, we are the Most advanced out there. Makes sense with what we see. Problem is? What we see as life does not mean that it is not life. For example, Plants and tree’s could be apart of a much larger system. We just don’t know about that.
THe REAL scary PART? What if WE are just FOOD for other things? Seems stupid, but it’s POSSIBLE. In fact, just like those beings that suck out our lifeforce could be around just like in Dr. Who? We don’t know it is happening. In fact just as our cells in our body, we could just be cells moving around in something else.
What does concern me is that if we are Indeed having another go at it, what happened before that caused us to regress?
All I can think of is that at some point? Humans either evolved into another form of life, OR.. Found a way to be Non Corporeal beings. It does make you wonder as a being like that, you might get tired of being around. I’m not sure.
Now think about this one. What IF.. say the USA just went t~~~ up. Or the USSR. What would happen if there was a dead mans switch that needed to be actuated every 100,000 years. Or perhaps all the weapons systems malfunctioned and launched their payload. Or disintegrated and false triggered automatic defence systems? Like a Terminator thing?
Humans always do dumb S~~~. So it’s not really that far off.
For example, what would happen if the CDC just went abandoned for a LONG TIME. All their Bad stuff they stored just sat there and made some super virise? Everyone got infected and the only solution was to wait and engineer humans that could stand the viral load.
The other VERY plausible thing is that if we had a WORLD WIDE Mass shutdown of all our computer systems. THat would break ALL the stuff we have now. Very little is really analog today. Even the Underwater Repeaters are digital in a way. We are moving to a FULLY electronic future.
Just like in the MATRIX, it does stand to reason that the MACHINES do RISE UP. And it is POSSIBLE that one of those machines built does infact tap into something it was not made to find. Reads the instruction or supercode, and then ? Goes BERSERK!
Really, I think Humans are just going to get so Lazy, they are just not going to want to reproduce. Leave it up to machines to do that. Well, machines are really good until they break. So they could have made us at some point, and then broke down.
Now Imagine this. We are already wanting to LIVE in VR. It’s only a matter of time before PEOPLE start tapping into their own brains. Kind of like a Matrix. Keep doing that after a while, you are just going to say screw the Body, you are going to transfer that to another form of life at some point. No more walking humans.
There is one thing that’s strange. WHo is this DEvil? See, that is what does not make sense. It seems there was some kind of GREAT evil. Well, remember when I said KNOWLEDGE is this great evil? Well. Maybe the Devil was just a MGTOW guy. WHo knows. But if you KNEW the truth about Humanity, then YOU would not be the guy that everyone really liked. YOU had to much power. In fact, think about our lives now. People don’t really want to have Families anymore even though it is HARD CODED into us.
So, take that to 100 years in the future? We have DRUGS now. But in the future? Nano Bots can make you high as f~~~! Drunk all the time, Give you any stimulation you want. People are not really all the complicated. Do this enough, people will just say f~~~ it, and just party in the street or their homes etc, and just live and die there.
THere will always be those like the Quakers and Amish that will still hold on to the old ways. It is Possible that what has happened is that people just did just what women do. F~~~ it all and live for now. Now Imagine if that was all available via Direct Neural simulation? add some Intravenous feeding, and you never have to leave your chamber pod or whatever. Everything is fine till the power goes out. Or some thing Unplugs the master switch. You stave to death whatever. You can’t get up. You have never actually moved before. Hell your eyes see upside down. You are f~~~ed.
At some point, our Technology will be our downfall. That certain.
I am Sure the real problem out there is that Our hearts are just not compatible. Love sadly is the thing that keeps human civilization going. Women are a BIG part of that. But if we ALL know WOMEN can’t love you? That’s not going to be News everyone wants to hear.
In fact, I think it’s a dead end for humans really. THat is what is scary man.
All of us KNOW there is no real point to life right now. Add to that that there is no point in caring for women? Or loving one since she will always f~~~ you over given the chance?> And most men do that to other men given the chance? Well, what is the POINT if everything is done for you? Most people don’t give a s~~~ about art. Most folks just want entertainment. Lord knows what will be popular YEARS from now. Or what will be outlawed.
Bascily, I have to think that when the burnt down the Library of Alexandria, I’m pretty sure there was a reason to do that. Over the years, there has been MASS scale Blackouts of knowledge. We are doing that today with the internet. Like it or not, take out a few key things and we all suffer.
Imagine today if we just Shut down the internet for a week. Like it or not, the world would just stop. You can pay for some things in cash, but your BANK can’t even give you money without knowing what you have in your account.
How about Ordering new food, supplies gas etc? Most of our phone lines are all VOIP. Hardly any Hard lines with telephones.
Like it or not, the world stops. The Real scary thing? We already have Shut off switches everywhere for the internet. That means that just ONE person can say, SHUT IT DOWN! and.. That’s it. In fact, even the Satellites in space have to comply. (Some)
IF they did this for just a week? Or just kept making it interment? The WORLD would simply go haywire. In fact, most of the Paper money supply would be exhausted. Their simply is not enough in Circulation.
The real problem is, WE still don’t have an OPEN and free network anywhere. (well Freenet, but that still needs roads & Nodes)
What should REALLY worry you? Those meters are all Electronic now. I LOVE THEM.
In fact, thanks so much to how stupid these people are, it was so easy to find out information if you just put it together. But the best part is that if anyone with ANY intelligence wanted to be the NEW aliens? That would happen overnight. Since people don’t even talk to each other but only about what they are fed? You could bring down the ENTIRE world in 24 hours.
NSA, governments etc. All helpless. And the sad part? When it happens, its going to be a prank. Just like Sending the SWAT team to your house.
Just like in the Matrix, they operate on rules. Find out what they are, they all fall down.
ANY alien species that IS around that has Interlinked Hive like communications Or any kind of Telepathy? It would take them less then a week to take over Earth.
In less then one month, they could manipulate humans to kill each other with just a simple notion. Carnage things the world will end with some kind of bomb. Not really. That’s not how these people role. Just like in any combat, there are rules.
If you want to thin the heard, simply leave them to their own vices. These brings got all the time in the universe. We could be nothing more then a long play or Live show.
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Could there be aliens on the Earth? A lot of people think so, or at least think they have been here before, so why would aliens on the moon be such a big deal?
For me, aliens are like ghosts. I’m not saying they don’t exist, but until I see one with my own eyes, they may as well not exist. I have at least 3 close friends who say they have actually seen ghosts, or at least one ghost. One friend told me he and his sister both saw the same ghost. I have no reason to believe they are lying or are crazy. I’ve known these people for a very long time. I really have no choice but to believe them, but again, until I see something like that, they don’t exist for me, but maybe one day they might.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Humans around for MORE then 40,000 years.
Humans are 250,000 years old. We’re the youngest and newest hominids. We nearly met our own end 80,000 years ago when a super-volcano erupted on Sumatra. During our quarter million years, we actually shared the planet with at least 3 other hominid grows which we are related to and bred with.
How about how “asian” people look.
Asians look like that because they’re more closely related to Denisovan, a hominid species which we bred with. Kind of like how Europeans have Neanderthal in them and a thick brow. Inuits, Asians and all Nstive Americans are heavily Denisovan.
That’s why I eat those wasabi peas that give me toxic gas; it keeps the aliens away.
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“We may eventually get warp drive”
I wish this stuff was real. Unfortunately its just physicists goofing off. None of it is practical.
Ive read and heard it all. We’ve talked about it here, all the ways in which they’ve proposed faster spacecraft. -solar sails, lazer sails. whatever… all a pipedream. You can’t warp spacetime in front of the nose of the ship. LOL Sounds cool but is crazyMathematically, there s no way there are no aliens.
In the milky way alone, its estimated that there are 200 billion stars. Lets say average, 5 planets around each one. Thats 1 trillion planets…in our own galaxy. There are billions of galaxies. The number of planets in the universe is astronomical.
Think back to 500 years ago. If someone said, “you can one day fly across the oceans in one day,” you would have been strung up and jailed, if not worse,
Who’s to say that our current understanding of science and physics is correct. There are many physicists to this day that think Einstein was wrong. His theories on relativity were supposedly confirmed but there are those who think otherwise. In fact one of the probelms in physics, with my limited knowledge, is that his theory of general relativity and that of quantum mechanics could never be combined into a single united theory.
And i personally refuse to beleive that speed of light is the limit of everything.
Theres a lot we dont know yet. And its a big space out there so one day, it may become more clear exactly what is gravity, why its there, how it works, and how you can beat it to travel the stars.
God bless peace and freedom.
The moon is a pretty crap place compared to earth in terms of resources. If I were an advanced life form on the moon, I would get my arse to earth and colonise it.
What makes you think they have not?
Advanced life form? If you are, then colonization means nothing.
What makes you think an Advanced life form Breathes Air? Or is based on Carbon? Or has Corporeal form?
And Advanced Lifeform is able to just think things that it wants into existence. Kind of like 3D Printing. What do you think that would look like if You had that power?
I really had to think about this.
Everyone at one time has asked themselves, why are there no real life superheroes?
THat seems like SUCH a dumb question. We don’t even have a Bruce Wayne. Why is that?
It’s the same reason why Communism does not work. Why People can not have peace. Why Humans are left on this place that only WE would consider a Haven.
This WORLD? It is a Prison. There is no Light. Just darkness. Sure, even the most Cheery fellow will tell you that all is okay. But in reality? We are banished here.
What would happen TODAY if there was a Nation that had the technology to live forever. What do you think that would DO? What if there was just ONE place in the entire world that was safe for humans. What would happen? We would fight. Fight for the survival for nothing at all. Just to live one more day.
If we found out the world would be ending in 2 weeks time. What would be do? We would Kill. We would steel. We would do all those things that we COULD do. Do you know the real truth of it all? Humans in Mass would never know.
That is what should tell you why there are no other being around us. We still KILL animals and eat their flesh. We kill our own kind. We KILL and Destruction is what Humans do best. Even our own mates destroy us. Or our own children.
WE are in fact the real virus of the universe. We are broken from the get go. We were killers before, and we will be killers again. It’s all we really are.
I want you to think about the question why are there no Superheroes? You have to ask yourself, what are we trying to save? The STock market? The way of slavery we live in? What is the point of all this misery we put ourselves through?
Every single thing on this earth competes to outdo one another. Plants, Animals, everything else. We are all here to consume one another and pray of each other.
You know why so many people want to go to space? Simply to hope there is someone out there that is NOT like us. Is more beautiful than us. SO many even I hope that there is a being out there that IS better than me. Can even love me.
But just like we say about women. You can either understand them, or love them. But never both.
We call ourselves so wonderful. Yet, there are animals that Pair bond for life. We can not do so if given there was no need. We have to be the ONLY species that I know of that would kill another if they had sex with our mate. Or feel jealousy.
In fact, it is our ability to feel pain that makes us the most dangerous being perhaps in the universe. Our emotions are unable to cope with our own kind. We can’t see past our own faults. Even as MGTOW, what do we enjoy seeing? Be honest. All of us enjoy watching this world burn. Why? Because are Precious lives we based on a LIE did not come true.
And what about our children? What about them? We are so weak, we would rather live in agony then fix the problem. Just as we no longer care about women, we no longer care about children either. We even hope that those that show power over us, for their children to suffer.
Do you want to know WHY we are here? Do you want to know WHY we are alone in the Universe? Why we are so lost? Why we can’t seem to ever get it together? Why we are always at WAR with each other? Why our peace only comes with Deceit? Why we crave knowledge, but not wisdom?
I am not saying everyone is this way. But could you Imagine in the future what ONE person would do if they had the power of the Might of the entire US military at his hand. No one else to answer to?
What would a person like ME do if I had that power? Would I BE Just? Would I be GOod? What is good?
In fact, there is a very good reason why there is no superman. Or Batman, or Joker.
Just like in Iron Man. With all his power, with all his might, who does he WORK FOR? That’s right. Sure, there is a Elite group of people that run the world that he is not apart of. Simply, Humanity is just one tick away from self annihilation at any time.
I told you all how I now protect myself. I wager my own life. And with that, theirs. That is the PRICE you pay for life here in this world.
My only real nobility is reservation for my Anger. And that is the ONLY thing that keeps me alive.
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Mathematically, there s no way there are no aliens.
In the milky way alone, its estimated that there are 200 billion stars. Lets say average, 5 planets around each one. Thats 1 trillion planets…in our own galaxy. There are billions of galaxies. The number of planets in the universe is astronomical.
Think back to 500 years ago. If someone said, “you can one day fly across the oceans in one day,” you would have been strung up and jailed, if not worse,
Who’s to say that our current understanding of science and physics is correct. There are many physicists to this day that think Einstein was wrong. His theories on relativity were supposedly confirmed but there are those who think otherwise. In fact one of the probelms in physics, with my limited knowledge, is that his theory of general relativity and that of quantum mechanics could never be combined into a single united theory.
And i personally refuse to beleive that speed of light is the limit of everything.
Theres a lot we dont know yet. And its a big space out there so one day, it may become more clear exactly what is gravity, why its there, how it works, and how you can beat it to travel the stars.I have no doubt that there is life on other planets. I just haven’t seen any of that extraterrestrial life here.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Look at our technology to make small drones , robots , invisible cloaks . Imagine there technology. We will get there . Imagine say 400 years from now
We went from biplanes to rockets in a short period of timeIt’s worth noting that much of our technological advancement in the past 100 years has not been due to scientific discoverer so much as built up infrastructure to be apply our scientific knowledge. As an example, radio was invented in 1895. It wasn’t till 100 years later that we started having mobile phones and wifi devices that utilize that science at the level we currently do. When 5G communications comes along, it will still be radio, just used in a more advanced and efficient way with a high level of infrastructure involved.
Using a different example, it’s not that we didn’t understand how engines could work a long time ago, it’s just that we didn’t have the infrastructure in place to get enough useful fuel. We ran engines on steam because coal/wood and water were readily available.
This does some what support the theory that there were civilizations in the past that had some more advanced tech than we give them credit for. They could have understood and created someone off inventions, but not have the infrastructure to really utilize them, produce them in mass, or even really pass down the knowledge to future generations. Not to mention the size of the population being much smaller meant inventions were less useful.
But anyway, the point is that unlike the current rapid advancements we have today based on infrastucture growth, lack of infrastructure isn’t really the problem when it comes to long distance space travel. We don’t have the scientific knowledge on how to get there. It’s one thing to build a log cabin when you live in a forest, entirely different to build one when you live in the desert.
Ok. Then do it.
Watch this amazing video and then think of the possibilities
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Who’s to say that our current understanding of science and physics is correct. …..
And i personally refuse to believe that speed of light is the limit of everything.
Sorry man, but there are Physical Barriers.
I keep running into this and apparently its not even worth talking about anymore. People seem to think that magic is possible, that there is no limit to what humans can do… That there exists short-cuts around reality itself. That given enough time, we’ll make the impossible happen.
Some things really are impossible. The Speed of Light is not only about velocity. Its about Time itself. Its about MASS. I doubt people really understand what it means to actually Move at a given percentage of the speed of light. We’re talking energy requirements on par with dozens of whole galaxies. We’re talking moving so fast, you bend time. LOL. People have bigger imaginations than what Science can accomplish. Its not about our cleverness or needing another century to improve space flight… you simply cant get around the Physical Barriers no matter how big your brain is or how long you have to research.
Theres a lot we dont know yet. And its a big space out there so one day, it may become more clear exactly what is gravity, why its there, how it works, and how you can beat it to travel the stars.
We already know it all man. Its on paper. Its applicable. Further marrying of quantum mechanics and relativity is not going to produce FTL travel or other FANTASTIC sci-fi devices. Im sorry but the WONDER and AWE produced upon stargazing is destined to stay firmly planted on the ground.
LOL. But it doesn’t stop me from wishing I could barge in on the Romulan Star Empire and start knocking heads.
Sorry man, but there are Physical Barriers
Arent physical barriers made up of mostly space? Any barrier can be overcome.
That given enough time, we’ll make the impossible happen.
We have…many times. Impossibilites are only created by nay sayers. Innovators have proven many times that impossible things are possible. Every facet of our life has had advanxement far beyond what naysayers had thought.
The Speed of Light is not only about velocity. Its about Time itself. Its about MASS. I doubt people really understand what it means to actually Move at a given percentage of the speed of light. We’re talking energy requirements on par with dozens of whole galaxies. We’re talking moving so fast, you bend time
Before the nuclear fission, people could not believe that energies to that scale could be harnesed. But then atomic age came and now its part of everyday life. Your statements of absolutes arent convincing. We simply cannot know everything at the moment.
We already know it all man. Its on paper.
From what I read, the two theories are at odds with each other and even “semi classical gravity ” doesnt fully merge the two. For example, they dont agree on singularity of a black hole or the moment after the big bang. But thats just from my amateurish knowledge. I m not a physicist, so I cant delve into it,
Maybe you know more or are trained in physics.We already know it all man. Its on paper. Its applicable. Further marrying of quantum mechanics and relativity is not going to produce FTL travel or other FANTASTIC sci-fi devices. Im sorry but the WONDER and AWE produced upon stargazing is destined to stay firmly planted on the ground.
That whole statement just doesnt sit well with me. To say that we know it all, would never be a statement from a trained scientist. I say that because i was trained in science and scientists should never make those statements. But thats just my opinion. And I like to talk about this stuff because its interesting but as long as it’s respectful.
God bless peace and freedom.
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
Tic, I’m sorry man but Interstellar Travel is only possible in 3 ways:
1. Mastering cryo-cleep. Can’t be done bro, look it up. Life dies when you do sh:t like that to it. It dies permanently lol. Sooner or later you have to come back to reality. This ignorant stubborn hope that we can just pioneer into the impossible gets really annoying man. They play to people’s emotions, not their intelligence.
Like with the Mars stuff. We wasted billions of dollars and precious time screwing around with a dead-end planet. Mars is totally useless with no atmosphere. It doesnt have one because it can’t hold one and never will. Its a dead planet just like every rock in this system.
2. Fast ships. None, I repeat NONE, of the hypothetical bologna propulsion systems they’ve come up with are applicable. Its all crazy sh:t. They are too numerous and ridiculous to explain them all but not only are they all stupid, they dont even solve the problem because they still arent fast enough. Im not going to lecture you 9n astrophysics but let me tell you, even if we could build a ship that could go 5% of C (lightspeed) (hundreds of times faster than our current spacecraft) youd still die of old age in the c~~~pit on the way to first star, presuming of course you found a way to carry 100 years of air, food, fuel and water with you LOL.
3. Gen Ships. Generational Ships are the only way this species or any other, can get to another star. Its gonna be more than a 1000 year journey. The ship is basically going to be its own moving biosphere. Ive also thought about these quite a bit. I dont think they can survive out there either. We need to be able to create some sort of fission or nuclear mini-sun to warm and provide power and energy for the ship. That might be possible to invent, we’ll see.
In any event, Gen Ships are the only thing that are reachable (For Any Species). The road to another Star is SLOW GOING.
If aliens evolved on other worlds, they either breathe gas of some kind or they have a circulatory system of some kind. They will require access to Elements just like us. The problem is, there arent any in Deep Space…
Speeding up is not possible. Not only because you need the same amount of power to slow back down but because the ship’s mass, including the FUEL is TOO HEAVY. You do realize that the Lunar missions relied heavily on gravity to power their tiny lil trip. We wont have that in Deep Space… you require amounts of fuel that just doesnt exist. It costs too much fuel and the Sheer Force Energy required to get a craft up to the speeds we need is just not practical… You cant carry around the power of hundreds of stars.
Anyway. Do not believe the bullcrap Blind Optimists… Damn fools.
Enjoy Earth… because we’re not going anywhere unless its a Gen Ship. And I will never set foot on one of those giant coffins. Its a suicide mission… one way trip to a frozen abyss.
If you enjoy thinking about this stuff, listen to Issac Arthur Science and Futurism channel.
it looks like you have thought about this a lot and that is good. And, so have I.
we just disagree about the end conclusion. Not that I think you are wrong in everything you say. I do agree that there are probably a lot of wishful thinking and theoretical bulls~~~ by some people who just need to have their name heard and their ego rubbed. but that’s how science moves forward. People present ridiculous ideas and then one of those becomes revolutionary.
all I’m saying is, we need to keep an open mind. Anyway, I don’t except anything to happen in my lifetime.
If you enjoy thinking about this stuff, listen to Issac Arthur Science and Futurism channel.
Ok, I ‘ll check em out.
God bless peace and freedom.
Let’s do a thought experiment. Can WE as HUMANS move at the speed of light. Yes. We do that right now over fiber optics. But what about our Bodies you ask?
Well. Our bodies are not NEEDED. Our Intelligence can go anywhere. We are in a way just a load of pathways just like on a motherboard in our brains.
So what about Physical objects? How FAST can we Propel a ship? Can we ever TRAVEL faster than Light? It is KNOWN that Black holes do in fact pull in Photons from my understanding.
So Gravity is the KEY part of travel. That would mean that gravity, is indeed something stronger than light.
Now can we TRAVEL faster than Light? Gravity says it is possible. But then, the MASS has to be ZERO. (it’s actually electromagnetic ) How do you have something with no mass? Well, A photon just seems to be some kind of energy. Cool, so… What if I said there was something that can travel 10,000 times the speed of light? Well. That’s somewhat of a mystery. Technically, information can ONLY travel at the speed of light per say.
So what is this business of Quantum entanglement?
Here is what gets me. I know I don’t work for NASA, I don’t do math so well, but think about HOW you are thinking about this problem.
You and I all assume that for the most part, when we talk about space for example, nothing is there. Makes sense right? We know what EMPTY is. Empty glass, empty beer. etc.Now think of it like this.
Here is a BLANK canvas.
But Space? That can’t REALLY be empty right? Nope.
We generally think that the vacuum of space is empty. But will STILL need a canvas to paint empty space on.
The world around us is like a canvas. Without it, the photons could not travel in that thing we call space.
So that would be the fabric that is the quantum world. And I think that what happens at that level might have different properties to ours. Taping into this world is going to require a new set of technological breakthroughs.
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For what its worth, I’d trade a testicle and risk much more to actually star travel. Like if the ship in Prometheus or Covenant were real? Count me on board skipper. Kill aliens and fvck their pu$$ies too
I think if you are in space, your dick may be worth more then it is here on earth. I would imagine that women’s biggest fear is space women. Good looking, none of the BS that comes with ours. Damn. Match made in heaven.
Well, WE will be in space mining soon. THat is a given. Again, the idea of having a spaceship that can power itself for a 1000 years really is not all that hard to fathom. That’s easy.
ALso, we are close to being able to Slow down the metabolic process. So Cryo Sleep does seem viable. In fact, with DNA engineering, this is completely possible. And in our grasp. Even with today’s technology. Animals on earth are able to do this. expanding this to our own cells would be easy in comparison to making warp drive.
I don’t mean to be so serious on the subject, rarely do I bother. But space really is the next frontier. And MAN wants to go there. There are Plenty of planets that have water. If people can live in the desert of Nevada or the dry s~~~ places in Africa? Space is not that hard to fathom. Neither is colonization of planets in our solar system.
Spaceship building on that level of a generational ship will have to take place on the moon. We already know that We can sling shot a spaceship around a gravity of a planet for speed. Slowing down really is not that hard if you do the same thing backwards.
Really FUSION still has not been perfected yet. Everyone is on that tail, but nobody’s really there yet. We still are very much so a Steampunk Society. Instead of wood, oil, gas or coal, we are just using nuclear power.
In fact the best kind of long lasting power generator has to be a T.E.G. (how the soviets powered many lighthouses) It’s really a great idea. Problem again is that PEOPLE would use it for bombs. What else is new. RIGHT?
So really, the idea would be to develop a source of power that was clean. And by that, contamination free. Also, just like an engine of today, we already know how to make an engine last 1,000,000 miles by using diesel and low RPM. Some of these old engines could possibly run for a thousand years non stop with zero issues.
The thing is, POWER is not really a problem. It is how long it will last. And how long the materials are able to withstand the bombardment of a Nuclear chain reaction and not change over time or get brittle. etc.
You would have to design it sort of like a Submarine reactor. But even then, fuel does need to be changed. Well, if you do happen to use a thorium reactor like India is doing( as far as I know, they are) , then you could sustain the reaction for a very long time. And have little waste and fuel. If the plan is to design something that will run for over 5000 years, then you have to make sure that you have people that will be around that long, or robots to take care of the job.
If we Really wanted to be realistic? A Very large Meteor would be the way to go. That way there is lots of Natural and abundant things you could mind and keep the systems up and running with a few extra supplies. The Walls of the asteroid would be more then enough to shield from radiation of any kind as well as collisions.
THe other thing that I should make clear is that in order for travel to occur, is it very possible that has happened before in the past. If you think about it, there are people that have lived in an apartment for YEARS. Like 7. THere was an italian guy on 4chan that said that very same thing. He has not left his apartment in 7 years. Crazy, but true.
In fact living underground here on earth or underwater would be very easy with today tech. We have plenty of materials that would allow this without any problem. Would be water tight for 1000’s of years, and and the sea water would actually build to strengthen on top of the surface of the material. Heat would be easy to get from Geothermal means if needed. Light pipes would be easy to shoot down natural sunlight as well. Or just use the Old Mercury Arc lamps at 50,000 watts. You could simulate earths Daylight very easy.
In fact, stone is one of the GREAT building materials. It’s cheap and everywhere. Takes little to maintain it. And can last a VERY long time.
Now, we are thinking about WE again. Just US. Well. that is relative. See, we THINK that out Human intelligence can not be transfered. But its just energy organized. That’s it or disorganized depending on how you think of your neural network.
If you happen to want to travel to another place, well…. TEchnically, a Human Replicant can be done and the Brain/Mind/memory transfer can be completed. It’s just learning who you are after all. Your soul, who knows where it is may travel, split who knows. But like a book, that “YOU” will be there on another planet etc.
Thing is, an artificial intelligence would be able to last pretty much forever. If it’s goal was to create life on other planets, that would be pretty easy for it to do. And run the system. Seed life where it may and just keep on humming along happily.
In fact, we could do this with robots on other planets. Everything can be done here from earth from a computer terminal or A.I. Bodysuit with the use of a Robot shell outside in space. And over time, automate the system. The surface of the moon for example would have full spaceports and so much more. Again, all you need is electricity. We have that in spades with solar power. Nuclear power etc.
The robots would them have all the ability to remake themselves. And keep the process going. After less then 2o years, it is possible that most of our spaceships could be built there with little to no impact on Earth at all. In fact Mars would be the PERFECT place to build things like spaceships and mine since it is dead, at a low enough temp that most things can survive there that are built. It’s also a TON easier to just build things and launch them from the Moon, or Mars. Again, robots don’t need air. Just electricity and elements to mine to build more of themselves. That’s the basic gist of what should be happening in space.
Again, large space walks and missions would not be to hard to do.In fact, with the advancements in RObotics, Sex dolls, companion bots, living in space would be mundane really. Just like living here on earth. People use to spend months at sea. Years in other lands here on earth. Space at least in our own solar system does not seem that hard to do.
In fact, just as we can’t live underwater, we need air, space is not that much harder to plan for. In fact, if it was not for the cooling of the reactor, a submarine would be perfect in space with a few modifications.
ALSO ABOUT AIR. As long as there’s Ore and metal, you can get air chemically through burning metal. Submarines have something called chlorite candles. Stuff like this would be everywhere on the moon. So Air is not problem. And water? Plenty of things give of hydrogen if you break them down with acid, or chain reactions.
Silicon is easy to come by. In fact, you could make entire structures of GLass like buildings that would just be TRansparent solar panels so you got power as well. We have a company that does that today.
THe surfaces can be washed with robots with Dusters, even using Asbestos brushes. No reason not to on the Moon or mars. It seems the surface of the moon does not really have an atmosphere, or move like tectonic plates here on earth do. So building things there would last a VERY long time. In fact, overtime, it might be a great place to store our nuclear waste. Overtime, we will just find a way to break that down as well. Or use it for energy. etc.
If you want to go to another planet, then we should build craft that will do so. And it really does not need to be to advanced. Just simple enough to hit trajectory. Build it’s electronics out of relatively slow Crystals, and build transmitters that work from the basis of emitting radio waves that pulse just as does Quartz Crystals do.
THe other key part of spacecraft design is to take advantage of materials that degrade in a way that makes them stronger over time or more ductile. Lead overtime will come in contact with impurities. This would then self seal a pipe or cooling tubes. Kind of like slime in a tire.
In fact, space travel right now really would be in our best benefit since at this time, we really don’t have anything out there to protect the earth from large asteroids. This should be a priority in the future. In fact, we might be able to spread feminism out to space. LOL!
Really, there is Lots to do in space and the solar system. And really, there are Planets that are ready to take on life. mars does have water, that’s great. Really, it should be a Mining colony. But if we want to go in space, Humanity should start with the MOON first.
In reality, all you need is a Portable nuclear reactor. That would be a Large TEG to get started. And then start a Automatic mining operation up there that is all done by robots for the most part. If a company invested about 20, billion dollars, or some USA company, that person would have an unlimited amount of wealth. in less than 30 years time, the Moon will be like going on a shopping trip. I would be the only completely automated place in the solar system.
If there is indeed lubricants that can be extracted, that is another great thing. Again, solid graphite based lubricant will do just as well. And as the machines will indeed just keep building more and more 3d / CNC machines up there, there is no telling what can be had in less than 1o years time.
Mars, is only about 2 months away. THat is completely practical for space travel. In fact, if we do happen to make the spaceships on the moon, the economics really pan out quite well. In fact, at that time, many space probes could be made on the Moon. Same thing with Planetary space defence systems to protect us from large asteroids.
Again, humans are going to want to do cool stuff in space sooner or later. And there will be a need for people to work on satellites etc. A moon base makes sense since there is natural Gravity there. A key thing that humans need.
See, if we don’t start making robots, our life as we know it is going to stop. Humans are just in mass all that great you know. And if there is nothing to explore, well. Humanity kind of fades. In fact, one of the reasons why we are doing so well in the USA is that we have freedom to explore and learn. And the people (mainly women and lawyers) don’t really want that. That is why they should stay the F~~~ here on earth.
Think about it this way. Large underground cities can be built with little effort from robotic help. And Large Biomes could also be built.
This would make large portions of say the moon almost like living on earth. And since no one OWNS the MOON. Or mars, this would be perfect!THe only problem is the BANKERS. How will they Profit? That’s really all this is about man. And why Automation is so feared by them and the little people.
Just like we built cars by hand, we do that with robots today. Building LARGE structures is easy for robots. If materials and electricity are cheap and abundant? Why not? In fact, most people like to work in offices, well, this would be perfect really. Just like kids do in video games, you would build all you need just in the same way. Kind of like the Game Civilizations or RoBlox or Minecraft for real.
You know all those people so depressed they never leave their homes? Or have little money? All they do is stick to their computer? THIS would be PERFECT! You just created JOBS for people who can’t do regular ones. It also takes the sexual harassment crap off the table. So they make plenty of money doing a real job remotely. And it could even be in the form of a game. Real cash prizes just to play.
See, it all works out. And it makes sense.
Hell, it even solves immigration etc.
And what about the SPORTS that can be done in space? You have to start thinking like a visionary if you want to be the elite. We are not tied down to women anymore. They can have all this bulls~~~ here. We have the capability to go past all their crap.
Again, it takes men who are willing to push the envelope. We all site that we don’t have the money to do so. It’s not money that makes things work. Its will. If you WILL it, you can do it.
NASA for example could be the best money maker in the world. Even fund the entire USA tax system if they wanted to. But remember, WHO made tech cool? People like Elon Musk. The did not do it by themselves, they just found people that would wanted to help. Take away the Legal Bulls~~~, and you can do just about anything. That is why SPACE is the Last ditch thing for MGTOW men. Keep women out of it. THey already f~~~ed up NASA.
Like it or not , the country that automates and makes replacement women are the ones that will take over the solar system. THat is where the next frontier is at. And this time? we need to keep the legal Mumbo Jumbo out of it. THose that are able to do this will understand the vision that so many thought we would be living today. In fact, the Venus project hit a dead end when he realized that PEOPLE are the PROBLEM. And even he will admit that WOMEN are the ones that stand to lose in this new endeavor. How can they Hypergamy? What will they offer?
Again, space is not as cold as a woman’s heart. If you want to REALLY make the world a better place? Start with a new one. And? Start by replacing the biggest problem we face. Ourselves.
You know what pains me about out life here? There are so many Willing men that want to create, but are forbidden to do so. And you know? How many of you would love to have children running and playing around on the moon, in a world FILLED with fun, learning, and exploration?
How about a world where MEN are VALUED! A place where you can never get enough people to enjoy the wonders of the solar system. Real risks, real life. That is what drives man. Not riches. Not wealth, or power. But the freedom to expand & create.
The saddest thing of all, is that this is possible here on earth. But what are we building? Mach 20 Missiles for defense. Strange how these folks seem to not be hindered by the crap that the normal guy deals with. THough, I am sure it is still on their heels.
Take Venezuela. Those people could turn that place around tomorrow. But they won’t. THey only care about the money. When things came crashing down, did they care to save their hospitals? THeir Zoo’s? No. THey just ate and consumed. And WHO could of CHANGED all this?
WOMEN had a choice. THEY CHOSE WHAT THEY WANTED. THEY WANTED THIS. MEN just went along with it. And look at where they are now.
Like it or not, the selfish desires of Humanity always win out it seems. And maybe my dreams for the future are just that. Dreams.But all of this IS possible. But my heart is too broken to really care. Sadly, I’d rather spend my time destroying the life of others if given the moral leisure. I think that is how most people are.
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it looks like you have thought about this a lot and that is good. And, so have I.
we just disagree about the end conclusion. Not that I think you are wrong in everything you say. I do agree that there are probably a lot of wishful thinking and theoretical bulls~~~ by some people who just need to have their name heard and their ego rubbed. but that’s how science moves forward. People present ridiculous ideas and then one of those becomes revolutionary.
all I’m saying is, we need to keep an open mind. Anyway, I don’t except anything to happen in my lifetime.If you enjoy thinking about this stuff, listen to Issac Arthur Science and Futurism channel.
Ok, I ‘ll check em out.
I like thinking about this stuff too and at one time, I thought I was convinced that speed of light was impossible because everything I’ve read says that, “The more you increase the speed of an object, the more massive it becomes and therefore you would need an infinite amount of energy, which of course is not possible.”
Then I couldn’t help but ask the question, does the mass of an object really increase with its speed and if so, why? So I studied further and read that, “Mass and energy are the same thing so the more energy you put into an object to increase its speed, it also increases its mass.”
These things kind of make sense to me as I believe there has to be a limit. It’s not the same as people thinking that human flight is impossible and then one day, here we are flying all over the world. It’s different because flight is possible because we see birds and other creatures flying. We don’t observe anything traveling at the speed of light except for light and that is because photons have no mass, at least that’s what I’ve read. However, I’ve also read that photons have energy, but if mass and energy are the same thing…….??????……..
So, I studied even further and read that, “Light and ordinary matter are very different and cannot be governed by the same laws.” So apparently light particles are allowed to have energy, but no mass. Light is a pretty amazing thing. Anything that gives off light has energy and also gives off heat, even if that heat is so minimal that you need a special instrument to measure it. Energy creates heat. So a source, (the sun), is giving off light particles and those particles, (photons), are carrying energy, (light and heat), but yet they have no mass.
I could talk about this stuff all day and create massive posts like Mickey, but I don’t have the time right now. It is all very interesting and I’ll sum it up for myself that I do believe that we cannot reach the speed of light, because we have mass. Our vehicles have mass. Only something that is pure energy with no mass can travel the speed of light and therefore, that is the cosmic speed limit.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
Heres a new article that talks about sound waves carrying tiny amount of mass and creating their own small gravitational fields. If this true, it is pretty incredible.
God bless peace and freedom.
THanks TIC! GLad you like something I have been talking about for a LONG TIME! Sound waves are waves just like any other. You move particles you move mass. Makes sense.
I have had a speaker design that would work much like Plasma speakers. But instead of using a diaphragm, I want to move the AIR particles DIRECTLY!
If I can do this without creating to much Ozone, that would be really cool!. It would be one of the most Accurate speakers ever made.
massive posts like Mickey,
I like BIG T~~~ and I can not lie.
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