Could the psychological abuse of men lead to women's extinction in the long run?

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  • #907646
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    Eric Lauder
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    The article is in Italian, but the quoted sources are in English and worth reading: this is a good proof that CRIME DOES NOT PAY and therefore BEING A FEMINIST MALE IS DEEPLY HURTING.

    L’abuso psicologico femminista degli uomini potrebbe provocare l’estinzione delle donne nel lungo periodo?

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #907663
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    What does bother me is that the very people that seem to be on your side that see this? They are the first ones to double down for the other side as soon as a PROFIT motive develops.

    I don’t think there is much to worry about. Just like life always finds a way, same thing with women. It’s just simply the state is willing to pick up the check.

    I have to question the motives of some people who say or do something at first to gain attention, then when ONE thing does not go their way, the explode. If its MEN that support the system, and women who give them pats on the back to do so, then this is just what they are going to do.

    It’s like a business. They go where the reward is. Short term gains for short term profit seems to be the lure of the day. There is not much profit in taking any stance that is open to logic these days. Sure it makes sense on the short bus of thought, but in the long term? How long is that going to be? And what reward do you get for openly taking any stance on the subject at hand? Not much.

    In fact, I have to say that the very people that go to criticize or shed light on what is going on is the prime targets for MANY people. The TRUTH is so Damaging, they go to any lengths to silence it.

    In fact, one of the worst things you can do is seek any justice for men or boys or women for that matter. I thought it was a big joke till I was on the receiving end of that. So have many others. It’s strange, but Conservative thoughts and then walking away from the one fits all of Gyno-centrism is working leaps and bounds in the war of minds.

    Like it or not, are WOMEN going to go extinct? Not in the short term. They will simply do what they did in Sweden where women have simply said that we need to regroup while the men fix everything again so we can do it all over again. 🙂

    PEOPLE are SIMPLY BORED. As soon as s~~~ hits the fan, people will shut up accordingly. Till then? Expect more bulls~~~. Nothing else.

    The play by Red Pilled minds is simply to stay out of their mess as their is little reward for doing so. Why bother with a failing system when there is a system that works, has data and evidence that it works. Why Bother with a loosing pony if there are no long term rewards?

    These men that do get involved in it simply see it as the best way to cope in a system that is already ruled by an outside player. They have all the chips. Do you want to borrow any of them? Or Make your own. THAT is the reason why so many on the other side go to great lengths to silence you.

    You would no be surprised if many of the same players that go after others for sport do it for that one reason alone. To keep themselves relevant in a conversation that has ended years ago. Who wants to be put out to pasture? Not anyone. So this sudo wad will keep going on for quite some time.

    The Important thing is to stop caring and protect your own ass, and not bother with their world view.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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    Eric Lauder
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    They will simply do what they did in Sweden where women have simply said that we need to regroup while the men fix everything again so we can do it all over again.

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    Sweden is crumbling, not doing the above but the opposite.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #907675
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    The Important thing is to stop caring and protect your own ass, and not bother with their world view.

    They’re easy enough to ignore, but what about when they start pursuing YOU and hounding you with questions? This is where I get tripped up in the real world. I let them interrogate me in spite of myself because I’m inclined to help people figure things out by my nature, so it never occurred to me that I need to develop the skill of shutting people down when their questions are really digs.

    Extinct? Or irrelevant?

    #907687
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    Extinction is rather overstating it. Women and men have mutually assured extinction anyway. The human race is headed to a genetic bottleneck, not extinction.

    Easy food and a safe environment for even the most inept has allowed a huge amount of bad breeding to go on. This and men simply taking their eye off the ball for several generations has led to a lot of deviant behaviour by both men and women flourishing. Feminism is a deviant behaviour. It lowers a woman’s reproductive capability and so lessens the impact her genes can have on future generations. The individuals who exhibit less deviant behaviours will inherit the genetic future as they successfully out compete the deviant ones. Meantime keep your heads down.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #907689
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    IMickey503
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    They’re easy enough to ignore, but what about when they start pursuing YOU and hounding you with questions?

    Can’t you just be GAY and dress up like a Fairy like all the other nice kids? Brother, You have seen Harvey Milk have you not? That dude got shot. And what did the Police officer get? He USED A FAST FOOD DEFENSE!

    This entire system is made to f~~~ over men regardless! I saw this first hand after my DV court case last Monday and it was CLEAR AS DAY TO ME.

    I don’t care who it is E.G., TREAT THEM LIKE CATTLE AND MAKE THEM MOOOOOVVE ON. You think others here don’t ghost like their LIFE depends on it? Man, you can not believe the HATE of WOMEN and how they will use OTHER MEN TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE.

    E.G., like it or not, you are a rare bird around here. People know you. And as you know the Squad comes here DAILY to check out what we are up to. Lets begin with the very fact you look … OMG WHITE! Dude, can you imagine the f~~~ing HATE I GET from PEOPLE WHEN I say PROUDLY that I love WHITE PEOPLE? Or stand up to the BULLS~~~? S~~~, WHITE PEOPLE get angry at me! Why? They don’t want to cope with reality. Being GAY is no longer a free pass anymore. You either follow their script out in the open, or learn to lie like so closets in the past.

    I had a very good gay black male friend that is no longer here anymore. All cuz some C~~~ could not handle being turned down by some Black dude. Some other “HOMMIES” f~~~ing beat his ass and left him to suffer the last months of his life. He later died of “Complications”. DO YOU WANT THAT MAN? You are in danger brother, Make no mistake. You are 5 times more likely to be targeted for an actual hate crime. And unlike Jessie Smollett, no one is going to give a s~~~. That Queen ruined it for all.

    You know damn well what happens to people like the king of queens. Don’t think you have people in your community that care. THEY DON’T! I know NEW YORK. I know how much they see each other as simple objects. You don’t have a chance anymore if they get wind you are one of the conservative types. Hell, they even went after one of the nicest gay guys ever. And all he did was have a show that interviewed people.

    Look, we had people in this very community turn on each other. And when this place folded, they went to the other sites to do the same thing. They are simply using the others to gain in depth data in order to use against them when time happens. In fact the amount of people that were doing this was as little as 10 people. But those ten people did MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DAMAGE. I got in the cross hairs when I kept telling men NOT to go to meet up together. AND FOR GOOD REASON!

    When I am in trouble, I don’t ask for help from anyone. And these people expected me to reach out here to use as bait. NOPE. Been there seen that, and I know what happens to men to gather. THEY TARGET. They destroy whatever you have or value. Its their game.

    Like I said, I spelled all this out a while ago in many threads. WE ARE TARGETS. And we are TARGET NUMBER ONE. We are going to be the men people will be looking for when s~~~ hits the fan. And you? E.G., I don’t want to lose another man to this bulls~~~. If I was you, don’t put yourself in the cross hair’s.

    These people want blood. And you are the ULTIMATE TARGET. Why? You don’t have that issue where the rest of us still have a genetic trigger that still beckons are loins. We are forever not immune to their influence. The idea to take Red Pills daily is not some stupid moniker , it’s true as the day is long.

    Like it or not, E.G. , complacency is the devils currency. Don’t be caught of guard.

    Sweden is crumbling, not doing the above but the opposite.

    I simply was quoting a woman who was bitching about it on a news article written about her plea to the hive to put the brakes on Feminism, so they can fix s~~~. But is it working? Hell no… 🙂 But just like all women, as long as there is a profit motive and a so called leader being told what to do, she is going to be able to tell the hive to do it this way just out of sheer spite to be the prom queen. Every woman wants to be the PROM QUEEN. Even if others are getting raped, beaten in the streets, she does not care. Why? Its not happening to her. A Narcissist to the very end. And what does she care, she can change her mind like she changes tampons and no one is going to hold that woman accountable.

    The human race is headed to a genetic bottleneck, not extinction.

    That I can’t agree with. The sole reason being that humans adapt to the changes they see around them. Is the genetics really the issue here? I don’t think so. In fact, we are getting just what the government needs. MORE BODIES. The only thing that looks like it’s changing is the people on top. But they have always been the small minority.

    Humans have not changed much over the last 100 years. Like it or not, there has always been the few that Pushed to build the future, and those that saw to simply be apart of it.

    Even if we account for the massive amount of information that is at your fingertips, there is not that much innovation going on from the masses.

    Take Frank Loyd Wright. His family just took on what he built. Not innovation, but simply a progression of the gene pool being a route that was already familiar.

    There are other examples of athletes having kids that can’t even play sports. Or academics that have children that just simply have other goals in mind.

    Like it or not, MOTHERS were GOD DAMN IMPORTANT to a kid success. And where are they now? Working for some other company. Dads can only do so much. In fact, most of the time, it’s not genetic gifts, (though they do play a BIG PART) it’s the work you put in, in this case LOVE OF YOUR CHILDREN AND BEING A PART OF THEIR LIVES…being the BIG factor of how our genetic futures play out.

    Take Janis Joplin. She was a woman. The kind you KNOW just sticks out from the crowd. Like it or not, she was one of a kind. Did her family make anymore of her? Nope. She was a TRUE BLUE O.G. Girl. It’s just how it goes.

    Will the genetic stock go bad? Hell no. Like they say, Nature has a way.

    It’s like how we think that Black people and their lower I.Q’s are some kind of problem. I ask you, if you were in Africa, do you think you High I.Q. is going to save you from the s~~~ they have to deal with? Hell no! It’s not going to give you s~~~ but a TIre FIre, and Murder plot. Like it or not, mother nature knows what the f~~~ it’s doing. And we are in no way in any kind of population crisis. We are simply getting to the point that Humans are Boutique items and not mass produced cattle. I ask you, if you had an advantage, and you know the rest of the people around you were Cattle, then that would put you in a very good position to take advantage of the others. As well they should! HUMANS like it or not need LEADERSHIP. If they choose not to lead themselves, then so be it.

    Personally, do you think I hate that I am not on top? No. Cuz the top is some mythical bulls~~~ position that is simply white man’s burden. Why be the sucker anymore? That’s what I am saying! You and I both know that the person on the top is not given ANY FAVORS. It sure seems like it. Sure money is easy to come by. But the costs of being there sucks. Those that have had these positions of power thanks to their inherited genetic gifts learned all to well how limiting it really is.

    Any man here regardless of what he looks like on the outside, and you will see that MANY understand that the burden is not your color, genes, but your INTELLECT WORKING AGAINST YOU! Sadly, intellect also comes with the price of having a higher moral stake and accountability to these around you. Imagine if TESLA Protected all his A/C patents? Or simply thought to be more like Edison. HE would be the RICHEST MAN in the USA. But alas, he gave to humanity. And he was almost forgotten by history. By the WORLD in fact.

    Genes and the stock you come from are simply just a good starting point. They do not determine success, viability, nor overall outcome. In fact, those genes come with a price. How many great people simply got hooked on the bottle or turned to drugs? I will tell ya man. Some people who I was in jail with who were pro Drug dealers were some of the smartest people. Who would have thought that Nietzsche would be explained to me from a person who walks like a duck due having so much drugs up his ass.

    Hell, TFM who arguably is a smart man, should have been a casualty in all this. But lest behold, he and many others have simply climbed where they are.

    In fact, I am arguably just a library of data that has no real prowess to reach the top of the I.Q. Scale. In fact, it’s my apathy that is my downfall. Sure it’s nice. It has it’s small rewards. But simply, I am a servant to others. I have to accept that. And work around it as it is. I will never be the man running a cut throat business. Or be able to hold my own in situation that I am the target of. However, I can defend others like there is no tomorrow. And not feel an once of Anxiety or reserve.

    My genetic stock and my background says that I should be some kind of Math wiz. But just until 2 weeks ago, i did not know how to count time or do time sheets. (i did not know how to add or subtract hours even on a calculator) Once I was told how to do it, I learned. But it still comes hard for me. Why is this? Is this a gene that is passed down? I don’t know. But as far as women are concerned, DAMN. I am a genetic dead end. My own preference in women is simply disgusting on a genetic standpoint. And I don’t know why, but that’s just how it is. But they do look good! 🙂

    Point is, I don’t put much stock in the IDEA of Genetics being that big of a factor to success or even continuation of the species. In fact, I see it more as a pipe dream of those that thought they new how genetics work when they simply don’t have all the data to really why people are the way they are.

    THE JUST ARE. And just like women being what they are? We have a good guide, but nothing more. It’s Our existence is simply just as TFM said in his new book. No real point. (Paraphrasing) Just human stupidly being the only constant I can think off. I am sure on this since I am Test subject ZERO 🙂

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

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    Sure mickey there is more to it than genetics. We are also in a cultural meltdown brought on by liberalism and self hatred of traits that make us successful. Culture has a huge influence.

    My point is just that we are not going extinct but that population numbers are going to fall, thanks to failure to breed by many men and women, some of whom are not good stock that is all.

    Genetic success is a lot wider than the few traits people look on as desirable. IQ is higher in Asians and whites come a close second, blacks are a fair way behind on average. However Africans have quite a lot of traits that fit them better for overall success than our ethnic groups.

    In the end, however, people only succeed in the long term if they decide they want to play to win. Our culture is not playing to win and not playing even to the strengths of the more capable half of its population. Liberalism and its children such as feminism are throwing away our success.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #907710
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    Can’t you just be GAY and dress up like a Fairy like all the other nice kids?

    Only on Halloween which is when I magically transform into The Illustrious Nefertiti Alfredo. Otherwise I’m just a dude.

    This entire system is made to f~~~ over men regardless! I saw this first hand after my DV court case last Monday and it was CLEAR AS DAY TO ME.

    Believe it or not I’ve been riveted on your posts for the past several days since you posted the long screed about living in lockup. I’m not lying when I say that your experience has been hanging over my head ever since I read it. I can’t quite tell you why besides the simple fact that it bothers me so much. Perhaps you read in a previous post about how my sister waved DV law in front of my face like a big joke this past spring, right here in my apartment. She started an argument with me about Facebook of all things and she saw that I wasn’t going to budge, so she performed an outburst with the intention of getting my neighbors to call the cops, laughing in my face the whole time like a cnut. I chose the word “perform” on purpose because that’s what the whole thing was, a big performance intended to get me in trouble. I haven’t spoken to her since. I’m proud of how I de-escalated that situation but I must tell you this: I saw jail flash before my eyes until I got control of the situation. Could you imagine getting a DV arrest in your own home because of your sister playing games?? So yeah, I take everything I read here seriously because these days no man is immune.

    You think others here don’t ghost like their LIFE depends on it? Man, you can not believe the HATE of WOMEN and how they will use OTHER MEN TO MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE.

    I don’t go out to the clubs anymore but that’s as close to ghosting as I can get. I do community outreach for a living so ghosting isn’t at all practical. It certainly works to my benefit that I’m a big hairy scary guy – a “bear” – and I’m not exactly known around here as a weakling. I also keep my street-smarts about me. But truth be told, I’ve been on the receiving end of more violence from women around here than from men. Or I should say, I’ve only received violence from women around here, never men.

    E.G., like it or not, you are a rare bird around here.

    This I know.

    People know you. And as you know the Squad comes here DAILY to check out what we are up to.

    Good. So let me take this opportunity to address them directly: HEY SQUAD! I know your support for my rights is fake, and that’s why you’re finding me here talking to these men instead of you.

    Lets begin with the very fact you look … OMG WHITE! Dude, can you imagine the f~~~ing HATE I GET from PEOPLE WHEN I say PROUDLY that I love WHITE PEOPLE? Or stand up to the BULLS~~~? S~~~, WHITE PEOPLE get angry at me! Why? They don’t want to cope with reality. Being GAY is no longer a free pass anymore. You either follow their script out in the open, or learn to lie like so closets in the past.

    I’ve lost all of my gay friends over the past ten years because I’m not in lockstep. Prior to the 2008 election I was blue-pilled as fnck. People like to point to the 2016 election and how much it messed up discourse in this country. For me this change happened almost a decade sooner.

    I had a very good gay black male friend that is no longer here anymore. All cuz some C~~~ could not handle being turned down by some Black dude. Some other “HOMMIES” f~~~ing beat his ass and left him to suffer the last months of his life. He later died of “Complications”. DO YOU WANT THAT MAN? You are in danger brother, Make no mistake. You are 5 times more likely to be targeted for an actual hate crime. And unlike Jessie Smollett, no one is going to give a s~~~. That Queen ruined it for all.

    I appreciate your concern and I never take anything for granted. I’ve been part of my city’s so-called gayborhood for over two decades, either living or DJing here, or both. It never creeped me out like it does now, and I’m considering this feeling heavily as I formulate my five-year plan. Jessie Smollett is a cnut. I despise him.

    You know damn well what happens to people like the king of queens. Don’t think you have people in your community that care. THEY DON’T! I know NEW YORK. I know how much they see each other as simple objects. You don’t have a chance anymore if they get wind you are one of the conservative types. Hell, they even went after one of the nicest gay guys ever. And all he did was have a show that interviewed people.

    Not every place in New York is like NYC, but you’re not off-base. I’m aware.

    Look, we had people in this very community turn on each other. And when this place folded, they went to the other sites to do the same thing. They are simply using the others to gain in depth data in order to use against them when time happens. In fact the amount of people that were doing this was as little as 10 people. But those ten people did MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF DAMAGE. I got in the cross hairs when I kept telling men NOT to go to meet up together. AND FOR GOOD REASON!

    I understand the camaraderie aspect of it but I think that’s best kept online. I don’t want to meet any of you mofo’s IRL hahaha

    When I am in trouble, I don’t ask for help from anyone. And these people expected me to reach out here to use as bait. NOPE. Been there seen that, and I know what happens to men to gather. THEY TARGET. They destroy whatever you have or value. Its their game.

    I don’t see any big MGTOW Jamboree’s happening anytime soon. Probably for the best. Going one’s own way and congregating for a big bro-fest seem like two opposing ambitions at face value.

    Like I said, I spelled all this out a while ago in many threads. WE ARE TARGETS. And we are TARGET NUMBER ONE. We are going to be the men people will be looking for when s~~~ hits the fan. And you? E.G., I don’t want to lose another man to this bulls~~~. If I was you, don’t put yourself in the cross hair’s.

    I’ve been a target of something or another ever since I came out of the closet in ’93. Fast-forward to 2019 and look at the growing war on all men, and this is where I see alignment with MGTOW. But I know that MGTOW is a straight men’s phenomenon and I respect it as such. I come here because I don’t think we should each keep the important things we know to ourselves.

    These people want blood. And you are the ULTIMATE TARGET. Why? You don’t have that issue where the rest of us still have a genetic trigger that still beckons are loins. We are forever not immune to their influence.

    I know. Bless your heart.

    The idea to take Red Pills daily is not some stupid moniker , it’s true as the day is long.
    Like it or not, E.G. , complacency is the devils currency. Don’t be caught of guard.

    I know this too.

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    Extinction is rather overstating it. Women and men have mutually assured extinction anyway. The human race is headed to a genetic bottleneck, not extinction.
    Easy food and a safe environment for even the most inept has allowed a huge amount of bad breeding to go on. This and men simply taking their eye off the ball for several generations has led to a lot of deviant behaviour by both men and women flourishing. Feminism is a deviant behaviour. It lowers a woman’s reproductive capability and so lessens the impact her genes can have on future generations. The individuals who exhibit less deviant behaviours will inherit the genetic future as they successfully out compete the deviant ones. Meantime keep your heads down.

    I will find the collapse, SHTF, WROL, and mass die off / hockey-stick population chart to be amusing when it happens.

    Its going to be fun watching genetically defective degenerates die. I will literally watch starving people killing each other and eat their flesh and laugh at them.

    The future is NOT Star Trek. The closest thing I’ve seen the a future is “Mad Max” or “The Road”.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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    I’ve been a target of something or another ever since I came out of the closet in ’93. Fast-forward to 2019 and look at the growing war on all men, and this is where I see alignment with MGTOW. But I know that MGTOW is a straight men’s phenomenon and I respect it as such. I come here because I don’t think we should each keep the important things we know to ourselves.

    I see gay rights as men’s rights.

    Or to quote “Colonel Stars and Stripes” (Jim Carrey) from “Kick Ass 2”, “I don’t care what you put in your mouth, as long as your hearts in the right place.”

    There is one thing you can enlighten me on (possibly). I have a theory based on my understanding of women, that lesbian women (despite the whole LGBTQ thing) don’t on average really like gay men all that much.

    What is your experience?

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

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    I have a theory based on my understanding of women, that lesbian women (despite the whole LGBTQ thing) don’t on average really like gay men all that much.

    What is your experience?

    Love/hate.

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