Conversation With My Grandmother

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

As you all know, I had a short conversation with my mother when she confronted me about why women should have to register for a draft and things of that nature.

Funny enough, more recently she’s agreeing with me and says that there’s nothing wrong with being single and that women today ARE too “iffy.”

Last night, I went to see my grandmother because she made soup and had leftovers. As a kid I was always a fan of her soup. She’s the most critical member of my family. She critiques everyone’s weight, smell, skin condition…you know. That type of woman. I always felt bad when she would make fun of my dad for his weight (and she does the same to me now). I went to see her because I don’t see her often and she lives nearby, and we never know how much longer we’ll have our grandparents for. That kind of thing.

As I was about to leave, we started having a conversation. It started with who we were voting for. She said she has no idea yet, but certainly not Sanders nor Clinton (same views as me).

It then got into minimum wage, where she said it would affect nothing if they upped the minimum wage by …I told her that I personally find it silly to even HAVE a minimum wage, and she told me “well, we have to think about all the single parents trying to raise their kids! They need a better wage so they can actually LIVE.” (She was a “single parent” when she raised my father.)

We then talked about “women’s liberation” and feminism. We both agreed that it was a joke from the get-go (surprisingly), though she said it’s nice to be able to vote. I told her about the draft and how “that’s like a man going into a shop and having to pay for something, then a woman going in and buying the same thing and getting it for free. She made no contribution to the company she just bought the product from but still expects to be served there.”

She mentioned the topic about “NO MEN IN WOMEN’S RESTROOMS” (there’s a “HERO act” that will allow Houston transgenders to use legal protection in any case they FEEL is discrimination, including using the bathroom of their choice). She said how many men could go in there and observe children and molest them and would mentally scar them. I told her about how women would also probably love to scoop up children in a men’s bathroom and kidnap them. She said that’s “not likely, but if they did the child wouldn’t be as negatively affected because a woman is more nurturing. That’s not to say it’s not bad that she kidnapped. Kidnapping is HORRIBLE. But we can’t say it’s the same as being molested.”

She then followed up by telling me that men are more physical in all aspects. I told her women are just as likely to harm a man. She pointed her finger at me as if to silence me and said “here’s the thing, though. Men are more prone to violence than women.” I told her there are statistics to prove otherwise, as well as men NOT reporting violence against them. She looked me straight in the face and said “I don’t believe you. I think you’re lying. I’ll go look this up myself. I worked in HR and had so many women tell me stories about being sexually assaulted by men. My SISTER [my great aunt] was abused and bloodied by a man, and I can get her to talk to you about it! MEN are more violent and dangerous than women, and that’s why we have to be protected!” I told her how I was abused by one of my ex’s physically, and turned the table on her by asking “so is my experience of abuse with women not significant?” She looked at me again and said “you’re ONE case. Name another. Name ANOTHER man that’s been abused.” Basically, she was telling me my experience was not relevant. I told her I know quite a few men from the past (and online through communities like this one) that have been. She said she hears about women getting battered and bruised and killed by men on the news daily. I tell her the same happens to men, it’s just not as reported. She called me a “liar” yet again.

She knows first-hand that my father, HER SON, was abused by my mother when I was younger. That’s also what gets me. She conveniently forgets that her own SON experienced abuse. Then again, my dad used to tell me when he’d punish me that his mom would beat him with his own guitar, with a mirror, etc. In other words, when she punished him physically, she was pretty ruthless and she’s likely completely blind to what ABUSE actually is.

Oh, and the best part of this experience? One of the last things she said was “I don’t know where you got all this hatred for women, but I wish you would just LET GO of it. At this rate you’ll become an abusive man, too! And if I find out that you harmed a woman, I’ll find you and kill you myself.”

My response was “First of all, I’ve never abused another human being, much less intentionally caused HARM to them. Second of all, if I hated them, I’d be calling for their deaths like some women do to men. Thirdly…you’re telling me that if I was seeing a woman and she came running to you and LIED about being beat by me, you’d kill me?” She said “Oh, I’d find out if you were lying or not. Trust me on that. And yes, I would kill you if she came to my door bloodied and bruised.” I told her about how women these days tend to exaggerate the truth and will go out of their way to make it appear that the man did something he didn’t. She said that both men AND women lie, and that women would NOT go out of their way to lie like that, and the number of women that would do that is far fewer.

You know, it’s funny how I made a post about “anti-feminist” women (the women who oppose feminism), and I talk to my grandmother who thinks the same way as them. Yet, notice how feminist my grandmother sounds despite her claiming she opposes it.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

I should also mention she brought up “strong women who raise their children alone and work in the fields and are just as strong, if not stronger than the men.” She said she knew one woman in the oil fields that was likely stronger than me (then again she’s probably just trying to weaken me by emotionally attacking me). I told her about the military women who failed when they were given the same test as the men, and she said she swore they passed as Navy SEALS a few years ago.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

You are a stronger man than I. I would have not put myself in a position where I would debate someone who is so delusional. Delusional people do not believe in things like “facts” and “reason”. I just nod my head these days, encourage the inappropriate behaviour, and watch the people destroy themselves.

For some reason I love watching others fall on their swords from the corner of the bar while drinking hot tea or black coffee.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

All for SOUP!

Nah, but really…I was just getting burned out getting called a “liar” when I’d tell her anything effected men just as much, if not worse.

I wasn’t even intending on debating her. Because she agreed that feminism was a joke, and because her son was abused, I would have thought for SURE she would have agreed that women can be just as aggressive and ruthless as the men they accuse. But…no. Of COURSE not.

[Anonymous 42]

What about amputating a man’s penis, shoving through a garbage disposal, then the girls all laughing it up on national TV? That didn’t happen did it?
Modern women have made themselves shameful and despicable in the heart of a real man!
I’ll do just fine without them, and so will the millions of men now turning away from women, they deserve to be alone, God knows they’ve earned far worse!

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Anonymous wrote:

What about amputating a man’s penis, shoving through a garbage disposal, then the girls all laughing it up on national TV? That didn’t happen did it?

Funny you mention that, I DID bring that up as well as the psychopathic Jodi Arias. She said “you can only name ONE and the other one, while not funny, was an abnormal occurrence. Women RARELY ever do that!”

[UntamedParticipant]

These type of discussions have left my world when I promised myself to never ever again believe a word or take anything a weemin says as relevant to any of my experiences or viewpoints.
The weemins all insist that I don’t understand them, that I am unable to know what is is to be a weemin, that no matter how hard I try I will never understand weemins… so what really is the point in discussing anything with them since their reality is “A woman is always right”?
This morning I walk into an airport café and ask for a coffee. Now, the milk, the sugar, the powdered milk and cream are all self-service.
– “regular”? She asks.
– I don’t know what you mean by that.
– Black? She asks.
– Do you have white coffee!?!
She finally got it when I pointed at the self-serv behind me.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

At this rate you’ll become an abusive man, too! And if I find out that you harmed a woman, I’ll find you and kill you myself.”

And if she actually did this, it would not be significant either because she´s just one old woman, right?

“Oh, I’d find out if you were lying or not. Trust me on that. And yes, I would kill you if she came to my door bloodied and bruised.”

Of course she would find out. All she would have to do is listen the crying girl´s every word. It would instantly match the pattern in her head for abusive relationships that she has seen on TV/heard from her girlfriends. The fem-validity of her claim would resound and echo in her mind, overriding any trust and blood relationship she shares with you.

The girl wouldn´t have to tell her it was you or even use your name – coming directly to your grandmother would speak the kind of silence in volumes that only women can understand.

Echoes!!! echoes.. echhooes…. echhoooes……… hooes……………. hoes………………………

I wish I had a grandmother that made me soup!

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Hard to say I’d want to see her again after threatening me over a potential false abuse claim. She said she wouldn’t kill the woman though if she beat me because I should be able to “man up” and leave. Of course…

[Anonymous 42]

Hey Megachris%, be careful who you feed those red pills to! You’ll have all the grannies aroused and chasing after you to squeeze your nuts! If you start passing out red pills to women (ANY WOMEN) you never know what kind of boomerang will return to hit you in the head! Stealthy was right!!!

[Anonymous 5]

Female nature is a constant. They’ve always been wired that way.
Feminism, and now social media have exposed their nature.
The more power and influence feminism gets, the more it inadvertently exposes female exploitation of males.

Women are far more aware of how Feminism exposes them. They’re probably amazed that men can’t already see their nature.
It’s why an ever growing majority of women are trying to distance themselves from Feminism. They don’t want “Equality” or to be exposed.
Mostly it’s only the unattractive with minimal or no manipulating power who scream Feminism. These women can’t play the NAWALT game to secure a male resource. They think Feminism will legislate the resources for them.
The rest, who can bag a donkey, or think they can, want to keep the status quo.

Any degree of discussion or observation with “anti-feminist” women will reveal their core biased nature.

[Governor Megachris%Participant 3584]

Good mercy, you people on this site are so much better than on Reddit. I posted something similarly on there, and they said things like “F off, I’m not going to validate you for seeing your grandmother, you’re an idiot” and “you shouldn’t have gone over there in the first place, that’s your own fault!” Must have been some guys from the Red Pill Reddit that think they’re “so MGTOW bro.”

I can understand avoiding women due to female nature. Trust me, I’ve been working on that…but I did state clearly WHY I still try to see my grandparents. I lost my awesome grandfather (on my mom’s side) in 2006, and have since then tried to be there when I can (with limits, of course) for my remaining grandparents.

You guys at least give good, sound advice that doesn’t try to attack my character for my choices. I don’t come on the site feeling like I’ll be bombed with attacks. Critique, I can take. Insults are unnecessary. I RARELY see those on here.

[NioZenParticipant 856]

Governor Megachris% wrote:

…but I did state clearly WHY I still try to see my grandparents. I lost my awesome grandfather (on my mom’s side) in 2006, and have since then tried to be there when I can (with limits, of course) for my remaining grandparents.

Dude, you do whatever the f~~~ you think is the right thing to do. Going your own way is exactly that. It’s great to share lessons and experience here, learn for other people’s mistakes and share a joke and a bit of anger, also to arm yourself with uncommon knowledge, but how you apply that is up to you. ‘so MGTOW bro’ is collectivist bulls~~~, some cowards needing validation from the group. Self determination and personal sovereignty are the polar opposite of groupthink and herd behaviour.

It’s like that wonderful joke about herd mentality from Monty Python’s Life of Brian:

We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

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