Common Law question.

[WarriorPoetParticipant 6]

Hello brothers. I was curious to see if anyone had any experience with being duped in to common law against their will. In my situation, I have a room for rent. Hypothetically, if I rent to a female, would she be able to claim common law after a set number of months due to us sharing the same address. Any insight is greatly appreciated.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Common law marriages in most of the united states requires that:

1. You hold yourselves out as married or to say. You introduce yourselves as married. This is something the woman can do without telling the man what she is up to.

2. There is an agreement between the two of you that you are married. – This is a lie she can tell the court. In our gynocentric society, it will be an easy sell to a judge.

3. Cohabitation – Time limit to be determined by the individual state. – Define cohabitation. She signs a rental agreement. What is to keep her from lying about a non-existent relationship that “Blossomed” while the two of you shared rent. The one physical way of ensuring that this won’t happen is that the room for rent has a separate entrance and facilities from the rest of the house.

4. Engage in joint contracts. Joint credit cards. Joint bank accounts. – Forgeries happen every day.

If you are renting a room, there must be a rental agreement that is signed. This is to protect both parties. This also gives you leverage should he/she stop paying their share of rent and you wish to start eviction proceedings.

But just how much protection will it provide from a gargoyle with the moral compass of a concentration camp guard?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 42]

You would need a rental agreement that she signed at a minimum! Personally I wouldn’t risk living with a woman on any level, they bring trouble more times than not. You’re better off with a quiet introverted dude that has his s~~~ together, another MGHOW preferably…

[KeymasterKeymaster]

KeyMaster wrote:

In Canada, I know there is an unspoken law that after 2 years , she’s like you’re wife. Nobody tells you this of course. You let the camel in the tent, it’s a messy and costly extraction to get her out – and not just out of the apartment.

There was some chatter about Canada / Ontario(?) silently changing that to ONE year. and there was some pushback so I don’t know what became of it… but that’s just f~~~ing nuts. It would be a law that would be enforced on you even if it was changed and you were only living with her for 14 months now. POOF!! She’s your “wife”.

NEVER Let the camel in the f~~~ing tent.

If you put her on a lease you’re covered, but just call a lawyer and ask the question to be sure!!

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Don’t forget that when she doesn’t pay the rent and you want to kick her out she can just accuse you of rape or physical violence. Plus men are way less likely to p~~~ their money away on new shoes and not have enough left over to pay their share.

Save the money for the lawyer and find a decent dude with a full time job. And as far as the “under the table” comment goes, NEVER tell that to your tax accountant if you have one!!

Order the good wine

[WarriorPoetParticipant 6]

Thanks KM, and thanks for everything you do. This site literally saved my life after my divorce. I work with alot of younger guys who seem deadset on marriage but I’ve been directing them here in the hopes they will see the light before it’s too late.

[UntamedParticipant]

Renting a room in your living quarters, that’s a big mistake. The judges know what’s going on, they’re not dupes, and even if the situation you describe is legit they would still opt to believe their illusions at your expense.
The there’s the contract you got with the weemin. Do I really have to write everything but the usual conclusion that you ass’ll be a sling before you can even a weekend out.
I wouldn’t rent my dirty basement to a weemin. And no she cannot put a tent up in my backward either.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[GrumpyParticipant]

Gents, let me say this a nicely as possible.
DO NOT ALLOW A WOMAN TO LIVE IN THE SAME DOMICILE WITH YOU.
Regardless of the actual living arrangements provided for in a written contract, all she has to do is state “intent”. The onus is now on you (the man) to provide evidence/proof to disprove her statement of intent.

Just peruse court documents from Canada, U.K, and the U.S.A regarding divorces/common law/breach of promise cases.
All the woman has to do is state/imply that an intimate relationship was, or maybe could have possibly, begun to develop with you, while she “resided” in your home, and you will be f~~~ed over period.
I have a friend who damn near lost his home/autos/pension/investments/freedom over a trial period of living together with a women (and her 2 kids). It lasted 2 weeks before he told her it wasn’t working out, and she had to move out. Guess what happened. When he got home he had a police escort, and a court order for him to vacate his own home. 2 years and several court appearances later he finally got the POS out. she walked away free and clear despite false allegations and nearly destroying this mans life. How the hell did she even have a legal leg to stand on? No Idea, but social services/welfare/women’s groups were all over it supporting her.
Seriously, how the hell can any sane man contemplate a woman living/being in his house longer than overnight? I wont even let her in my home if she has kids under 21, and I definitely wont let any of her under age kids in my home.
Why? you may ask. Due to our f~~~ed up common law marriage laws and a term called “loco parentis”. Her kid in my home signifies a willingness on my behalf to participate in a familial relationship/role. Ergo, an “intent”.
As a man, every and any tactic will be used against you in both a court of law, and the court of public persecution… I mean opinion, to ensure you are treated as guilty.
It would be safer for you to rent a room to Charles Manson, or any other known serial killer. All they will do is kill you.
Having said all that.
Do what you think is best for you. Just don’t mention it when it goes south.

(my CDO kicked in and I had to place a comma)

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

WarriorPoet wrote:

Hypothetically, if I rent to a female, would she be able to claim common law after a set number of months due to us sharing the same address.

If you refuse to rent to any women then you’ll never need to find out.

Problem solved.

It’s like how the best way to avoid harassment claims at work is by never hiring any women. That’s the price women pay for all the false harassment claims, false rape accusations, palimony, paternity fraud, and so on: men stop renting to them, hiring them, buying them free drinks, marrying them, and so on.

But that’s not our problem. And it sure as hell isn’t something we need to “fix” for them.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

It simply is not worth the risk. Keeping alligators in the bathtub will be a good talking point …. but one day it may just bite you.

It’s just not worth the risk.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Even if you don’t get sucked into a common law marriage, your female roommate will immediately start in with irrational demands. Count on the latter; do not count on the former.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[OldBillParticipant]

You’ve gotten well meaning advice so far, Warrior Poet, but no one has given you the advice that actually matters: CONSULT A LAWYER. Even soldier-medic’s seemingly accurate list is frought with misconceptions. Talk to a lawyer.

As I explained in these two threads – /forums/topic/beware-marvin-actions/ and /forums/topic/all-women-are-rapists/, common law marriage statutes differ greatly from jurisdiction to jurisdiction and – very importantly – are in a constant state of flux. I’ll use Oklahoma for an example; certain parts of the state government believe that common law marriage is legal in Oklahoma and act accordingly while different parts of the same state government believe common law marriage is illegal in Oklahoma and act accordingly. Same state, two different opinions, and both backed by the power of the state.

What’s more, certain departments and agencies within the US Federal Government have internal opinions regarding common law marriage. Thank to the many benefits the Feds dole out to the worthless underclass they’ve deliberately created since the 1960s, deciding to “recognize” that a cohabiting couple is “married” under common law allows the Feds to poor more money into the pigs’ trough.

Common law is also stage for a comeback of sorts. Marriage is the primary way the state can force men to remain on the plantation so, with more and more of us escaping, making claims of marriage easier makes enslaving men easier. It’s in the state’s best interest to expand the net to catch more men. (For the autists here, by “state” I’m referring to local, state/provincial, and national governments and not to specific US or Australian state governments.)

Finally, as the others have suggested, draw up a formal rental agreement, have the woman in question sign it, and have her pay rent. You can download possible rental agreements on-line. You can buy cheap rental receipt booklets at office supplies stores too. When she pays rent, make out a receipt, give her it, and keep the copy.

Most importantly – CONSULT A LAWYER.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Robert HallamParticipant 696]

Warrior Poet

I can not stress how important this post is. This kind of posting should be the primary focus of MGTOW.

I’m not criticizing Keymaster here, but the institution of Common-Law-Marriage in Canada is not an unwritten/unspoken law. Common Law Marriage is covered at both the federal and provincial levels. In other words there is a body of law at both the federal and provincial level covering Common Law Marriage. I understand that only certain States in the US covers Common Law Marriage. For Canada there is no end of information on the internet covering the applicable laws both federally and provincially. The laws are very confusing so you had also better see a lawyer, As Grumpy has so eloquently pointed out, there are all kinds of loopholes and pit-falls that only a lawyer would know about.

But bottom line, living with a woman, in any kind of relationship, can be interpreted as a Common Law Marriage and in Canada at least, the rules that apply to Marriage, apply equally to Common Law Marriage. The law in British Columbia also defines Common Law Marriage as any two people having a child together, even if they do not live together. In addition the law states that living together for 2 years is defined as a Common Law Marriage, but there is a move to reduce this to 1 year and in fact the courts are now actively applying the 6-month guidelines.

Yes as Grumpy points out, if you so much as throw a woman out even after as little as 2 weeks together, you are in the wrong, You can not simply put a woman out in the street period. If she has a kid, it’s doubly so. If she calls the cops, you will be out with a restraining order and she will be given the home, even if you are the full owner. Matters not if you have a Cohabitation Agreement or if she is a tenant and signed a lease. Be careful too, if you even so much as show a child any kind of attachment, including being a guardian, provide her a home, provide food and protection, or even being a father figure, be ready to pay child support (never mind the child is not yours).

Grumpy is absolutely spot on. If you want to avoid all this, and all the potential headaches, never let a woman move into your home, or even set up a tent in the back yard, Gold Diggers and the Family Courts are just itching to get their hands on suckers like you. It just p~~~es me off that one of my sons has placed himself in this very possition,

[OldBillParticipant]

Warrior Poet – Read and heed Robert’s post.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

For fifteen years, I had rented to single women and lived in my apartment building in Chicago. As long as I had a signed lease agreement and used a real-estate broker’s office to find the tenant and process the paperwork, there was some measure of safety. The normal fee for this service is the cost of one month’s rent, which is well worth it. It helped that I had minimal contact with the female tenants and did no inspections of their apartment. I had a strict “no pets”/ “no smoking” policy which minimized the potential damage to the apartment. And I asked for one and a half months rent as a security deposit.

For the rare times that repairs had to be made in their apartment, I performed the maintenance while they were out at work and/ or school. And tried to communicate through email. The phone was the second choice. Third choice was outside their apartment door. Worst choice was inside their space.

Through ought my working class careers, especially my HVAC-R business, I always tried to avoid going into women’s spaces alone. It was best to have a female “friend” and/ or employee to accompany me in those situations.

These precautions were learned and found to be well known by me and my friends as we worked as Handymen, Plumbers, Electricians, Carpenters, Painters, General Contractors, and Building Engineers.

Nevertheless, many of us have been victimized by female scam artists who use the laws/ court system to shake us down for cash and/or other malicious pursuits. I heard the stories and have supported guys through their trials, but I did not fully comprehend the dangers until it happened to me. Once a man has been accused of any physical violence towards a woman, his life and savings are destroyed. The man is guilty until proven innocent. It is a version of marriage that may involve real jail time. I will share the details of what happened to me in a thread called The “Domestic Abuse” machine as an apparatus for men’s enslavement.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

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