College GPA

[Anonymous 7]

Does college GPA really matter?

Im going to go into computer science next semester and Ive gotten some C’s.

From the mgtows that went to college did it really affect you much.

My main plain is to be self employed as well but a job would be a safety net.

Ive heard some jobs dont even look at gpa.

General ed bulls~~~ just gets old really quick when Im regurgitating s~~~ Ill never use again.

Thanks for any advice

[BeerParticipant 11832]

The most my GPA ever “mattered” was generic online application forms sometimes ask GPA. Anywhere I’ve ever interviewed never asked about GPA or for transcripts. Most places didn’t even request to see a diploma or anything…of course a lot of them also had pre-employment testing to even get to the interview stage so as long as you know your stuff you’ll be fine. The most I was asked in a job interview about college was what my favorite and least favorite classes were, which obviously you say your favorite is something related to the job you are interviewing for and least favorite was some random gen ed class that has nothing to do with anything lol. I think the thing GPA most matters for in college is if you want to get into a masters program or higher.

I don’t know if your field is any different but in mine it was a bitch to get my first job in the field, but from talking to other coworkers that have moved around a bit from company to company, my degree is now to check the block in the HR screening process and its the fact that I have experience and hopefully some good professional references in the field that are both far more important than my degree.

Obviously you want to do good in college but a few C’s won’t ever have any long term impact on your life.

[bob__Participant 946]

Does college matter? Why do “degrees” matter, why can’t people just get apprenticeships. You want to be a programmer, you become an apprentice for a “master” programmer. Why do you have to waste your time getting a stupid useless piece of paper that shows how much brainwashing you received?

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I’m in STEM and I typically only hire C to B+.

I work in a very blue collar STEM

Anything lower, really? Anything higher you a probably too book smart to be of use to me.

I send applicants to the chalk board. So if you know more than your grades…

Honestly, unless you are going for the top 10%. Probably not.

If you are going for your second job, no.

If you want to go to grad, law, medical school, get A’s.

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[IsolatedMonkParticipant 89]

From my experience, GPA grades don’t matter. Unless you’re in some really technical field, like training to be a doctor, I don’t think you should have a problem.

In every single one of my interviews, I never get asked by employers to see my degree or grades.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Does college GPA really matter?

GPA is one part of a larger equation. While a high GPA won’t make up for substantial deficits in other areas, it can help balance out things.

GPA also acts as a gatekeeper or go/no go metric. If your GPA is low enough, you’re not even going to get the interview just as problems with other factors will prevent you from getting the interview.

In any job, even self employed jobs, you end up doing stuff you don’t like. Being able to grind out a C or, in this age of grade inflation, a B in some “worthless” class completely unrelated to your major yet required by your school shows me you can buckle down and do the stuff you don’t like well enough.

I don’t want anyone who won’t work at something he doesn’t like or someone who chooses to half-ass something he doesn’t think is important enough.

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[BeerParticipant 11832]

bob__ wrote:

Does college matter? Why do “degrees” matter, why can’t people just get apprenticeships. You want to be a programmer, you become an apprentice for a “master” programmer. Why do you have to waste your time getting a stupid useless piece of paper that shows how much brainwashing you received?

The problem is…think of all the people who fail themselves out of college, or who change majors because their original major was too tough. Employers aren’t going to risk wasting time, money, and resources training these people when your average person with a relevant degree has already showed some aptitude at understanding the field and learning. I’m not saying those without degree can’t be trained, or sometimes wouldn’t have made a better employee than someone with a degree, but employers are just going to play the odds here.

The whole apprenticeship thing only really works in fields that have s~~~ grunt work that needs done. You might, for example, find a carpenter willing to take on an apprentice, but your going to be doing a lot of his heavy lifting, crap work, and helping him with s~~~ that isn’t a one man job. Having an unskilled guy around to carry shingles up a ladder or hold up dry wall or something isn’t exactly a liability, you are at least still useful since you are doing something he’d have needed another body for anyhow, and he get to pay you less than he’d have to pay another carpenter. Even if their apprentice doesn’t work out, at least they got some work out of the guy while they were paying him.

What would a completely unskilled coder do as an apprentice…fetch coffee for the master? He’s going to have to stop his work to teach you, plus you’d probably want paid for it as well…its a double loss for him. Its not exactly like he has unskilled work for you to do that is still helping him, or that you can do much to speed his coding up while you learn other than to just stfu and not bug him.

Don’t get me wrong, I think its bulls~~~ how much of a liberal agenda colleges push, and how 2/3 of the courses you take for a bachelors have nothing to do with your field, but at the same time I can’t really blame employers in a lot of fields for expecting some level of education from prospective candidates. Maybe some day after the education bubble bursts, you’ll find a lot more schools offering associates programs that are mostly relevant courses instead of bloated bachelors programs that are mostly irrelevant fluff.

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[bob__Participant 946]

What would a completely unskilled coder do as an apprentice…fetch coffee for the master?

Debug. Ok not actually debug but just find bugs. Then when they’ve seen enough code they can start writing their own code as a journeyman. I don’t know.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Does college GPA really matter?

Speaking as a former hiring manager, I can say GPA does not matter: On the job performance is everything.

I remember a straight-A student who was worse than useless in the lab. He actually worked against us. No kidding.

A GPA sprinkled with Bs & Cs means you have a life.

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[Anonymous 11]

Get a C, Get a degree. The only time it really matters is when you are trying to get into a highly competitive program like med or pharmacy school.

As stated before, a lot of managers prefer the middle of the pack. I graduated 3.7 in a Chem degree with a minor in Mathematics which is not exactly a cakewalk. The thing that college does not prepare you for is just how little you really know when you get out in a real world job. My advice to people who graduate with high GPAs is to always stay humble.

From there you build your reputation which is all that really matters.

OldBill wrote:

In any job, even self employed jobs, you end up doing stuff you don’t like.

Exactly, like accounting and cash flow management in my case.

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