Collectivism

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Devide and conquer!

Definition from wikipedia:

Collectivism is a cultural value that is characterized by emphasis on cohesiveness among individuals and prioritization of the group over self. Individuals or groups that ascribe to a collectivistic worldview tend to find common values and goals as particularly salient and demonstrate greater orientation toward in-group than toward out-group. The term “in-group” is thought to be more diffusely defined for collectivistic individuals to include societal units ranging from the nuclear family to a religious or racial/ethnic group. Meta-analytic findings support that collectivism shows a consistent association with discrete values, interpersonal patterns of interaction, cognition, perception and self-construal. Collectivism is often discussed alongside the cultural value of individualism, but these are two distinct concepts and are not considered to be opposites.

full article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collectivism

[GregB0Participant]

Ohno wrote:

collectivism shows a consistent association with discrete values

For the most part you will find this voluntary collectivism with athletic activities and teams, as well as military, paramilitary, or law enforcement communities. Non-voluntary collectivism is frequently demonstrated by government programs and outcomes.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[OhnoParticipant 668]

GregB0 wrote:

For the most part you will find this voluntary collectivism with athletic activities and teams, as well as military, paramilitary, or law enforcement communities. Non-voluntary collectivism is frequently demonstrated by government programs and outcomes.

Not at all what I was going for but thanks anyway 😉

It´s the political forum.

[Anonymous 14]

Ohno wrote:

GregB0 wrote:

For the most part you will find this voluntary collectivism with athletic activities and teams, as well as military, paramilitary, or law enforcement communities. Non-voluntary collectivism is frequently demonstrated by government programs and outcomes.

Not at all what I was going for but thanks anyway

It´s the political forum.

That’s the beauty of free speech, it is not going to be what you were going for, and what Greg just talked about is definitely Political in nature as Military/War is the ugliest side of Collectivism. That and his talking about non voluntary collectivism enforced by Governments…Definitely Political in nature…And definitely something I try to push back against at every turn.

[Anonymous 14]

Ohno wrote:

Collectivism is often discussed alongside the cultural value of individualism, but these are two distinct concepts and are not considered to be opposites.

Don’t know how I missed this the first time as I am tiring of your bulls~~~, barely reading it now, but Individualism is diametrically opposed to Collectivism, regardless of what nut job Leftists say.

Libertarianism is the pushback against Collectivism, whether it be classic “Right” or “Left” Wing Collectivism that the masses of Sheeple are made to believe there is a difference between the two at this point when in fact there is little to no difference as both parties, in the U.S. anyhow, are for BIG Government, big taxes, big wars, all forms of BIG Collectivism which intrude on the individual’s liberty at every turn enslaving him to a system in which he does not consent to, denying him of his individuality/sovereignty.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Anonymous wrote:

“Right” or “Left” Wing Collectivism that the masses of Sheeple are made to believe there is a difference between the two at this point when in fact there is little to no difference as both parties,

I think Left and Right are in the same camp, but getting played from above.

This collectivism strat is so good, that even you fall for it all the time without you noticing it. The words you use, not being precise and s~~~. If you want to call out the Israeli government, fine do it, but dont say Israel, that is a landmass with all kinds of people.
If you talk about “christian countries”, when in fact 95% of the population are atheists, it´s just not right and I have a hard time explaining why, because It is so obvious how it is false.

Memetics are not to be underestimated.

[Anonymous 14]

Ohno wrote:

it´s just not right and I have a hard time explaining why, because It is so obvious how it is false.

Get back to me when you have something figured out.

Look, U.S. foreign policy serves Christian Zionist/Israel Zionist wishes, THAT is where I derive the statement of “Christian Nation”, to be more specific I should say Christian Zionist nation, or even more specific, Judeo-Christian Zionist nation.

You say 95% of the U.S. are Atheists? How come you do not understand my frustration then with my country being in an ETERNAL holy war of sorts???

Oy vey.

[Anonymous 14]

Ohno wrote:

THX 1138 wrote:

“Right” or “Left” Wing Collectivism that the masses of Sheeple are made to believe there is a difference between the two at this point when in fact there is little to no difference as both parties,

I think Left and Right are in the same camp, but getting played from above.

This collectivism strat is so good, that even you fall for it all the time without you noticing it. The words you use, not being precise and s~~~. If you want to call out the Israeli government, fine do it, but dont say Israel, that is a landmass with all kinds of people.
If you talk about “christian countries”, when in fact 95% of the population are atheists, it´s just not right and I have a hard time explaining why, because It is so obvious how it is false.

Memetics are not to be underestimated.

You just don’t quit do you? Nice on your spelling of divide. Ever get your google search done yet?

[HitmanParticipant]

Ohno wrote:

95% of the population are atheists,

ahem…BULLS~~~.
back it up ,
take it back,
or shut the F~~~ up.
you pull those numbers out of you ass…?
give us all a GIANT break.
man please………
stop tripping and posting.

[Anonymous 14]

Hitman wrote:

Ohno wrote:

95% of the population are atheists,

ahem…BULLS~~~.
back it up ,
take it back,
or shut the F~~~ up.
you pull those numbers out of you ass…?
give us all a GIANT break.
man please………
stop tripping and posting.

Ohno, you’ve failed to listen thus far. Read ^ words. Read them many times and let them sink in.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

How are people still pushing this garbage?

Collectivism is when people forfeit their individuality for group benefit and individualism is when people act independently for their own benefit. Polar opposites.

What you call “collectivism” among individuals is actually cooperation. Cooperation is when individuals choose to work together for mutual benefit. Cooperation is not collectivism.

The war between individualists and collectivists is the primary battle of our age and it will decide the course of human history for the next century or more.

How to know if you’re an individualist or a collectivist? The ultimate question is this. Do you believe that you by yourself, with nothing but your wits, skills, intelligence, wisdom and charm, can succeed? If you say yes then you are most likely an individualist.

On the other hand, if you believe that the only way you can succeed is by grouping together with others of similar identities and objectives to apply social, political or economic pressure on powerful individuals who are currently holding you down, you are most likely a collectivist and should kill yourself.

No, wait… mix some ammonia and bleach at your group’s next meeting and kill them all.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Hitman wrote:

Ohno wrote:
95% of the population are atheists,

ahem…BULLS~~~.
back it up ,
take it back,
or shut the F~~~ up.
you pull those numbers out of you ass…?
give us all a GIANT break.
man please………
stop tripping and posting.

The % is of course different depending on which “christian country” you talk about. The vast majority are atheists in all of them is what I meant obviously.
I thought it´s obvious, but not so obvious to some I guess.

Don´t worry I will give you a GIANT break…meaning forever…that it is you asking for it my friend makes me a bit sad. Last time I came back from ghosting it was YOU that said ” Good to see you posting again”.

Alright Good Luck all.

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