CHEATING on the SAT test.

[foolsgoldParticipant 5643]

In a recent article a 18 year old black girl has been accused of cheating on the SAT test. Her score went from 900 to 1230 in a matter of months but that wasn’t the only reason she got flagged. Now she’s got an attorney and they’re pulling the race/gender card. Just retake the test and score even higher. If she’s NOT cheating what does she have to worry about? If it was a man he would be FORCED to retake the test. All of us know that.

I was accused of cheating 3 times in my academic life. I was REQUIRED to retake the test all three times. One I scored the same on the other two I scored higher. They were p~~~ed at all three results. You’d think they’d be be happy that it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that I was NOT cheating. NOPE. They were actually mad about it. Unbelievable.

What I’m saying is that this girl should see this as an opportunity to score higher. NOPE. I learned that being accused of cheating on a test has huge advantages when you can easily prove that you’re not. The point is you know damn well all of us on this site would be guilty as charged without a trial.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

This is how I feel about cheating:

People may be able to get away with it in the classroom, but in a real life job situation: you either know what you’re doing or you don’t. And if this girl is a cheater, she may be embarrassed during a job interview or a real life job situation where you’re required to have KNOWLEDGE, and she can’t come up with the right answer or can’t complete a task. The business world doesn’t reward incompetence…unless you make it to the executive level.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22507]

I think that if cheating was suspected, the easy thing to do is have the company give her the test again as opposed to just subjectively declaring she cheated.

If she can get a score close or better than her high score, its clear she didn’t cheat and the test company could turn it into a pr positive by some nice gesture to her and also using her as an example that people can trust their test and trust that with real study and determination, raise their scores significantly.

I mean she could have studied a lot of prep books that help increase your odds of guessing questionsthat you don’t know using multiple strategies. I still have those books from the years I took the tests. Just knowing these strategies would increase the number of right answers she would get on questions she didn’t know.

If she gets a score around her first lower score, well then that’s real suspicious and really calls into question how she got such a high score.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

F~~~ it. CHEAT AT SCHOOL! Most of the time it never gets you anywhere anyways. If it does, Great! You won at life. Congratulations. Your pussy power card just went up a notch! You used your brain to get what you want. Nothing wrong with that.

It just proved that woman is like all the rest and will be like Everyone else.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[dawson1Participant 138]

I saw this article a few days ago. If she didn’t cheat, retake the test. She wants to play this out in public opinion though. Since shes black and most of all.. FEMALE.. she should be given benefit of the doubt in her mind. She hires a civil rights attorney right off the bat? Sounds fishy to me

[JVBParticipant]

foolsgold wrote:

Just retake the test

Sounds simple enough to me. But no, now it’s a racial issue and so come out the cotton mittens.

Peace is > piece.

[Branched offParticipant 10926]

Lets hope that her hiring a lawyer is a clear warning to any potential employer. If she does not get her way she will play the gender and race card, so ignore.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Anonymous 1]

Branched off wrote:

Lets hope that her hiring a lawyer is a clear warning to any potential employer. If she does not get her way she will play the gender and race card, so ignore.

It should be a permissible question on all job applications:
“Have you ever retained a lawyer to bring a legal suit against anyone? (If you answer “YES” please explain below)”

[It should also be permissible to NOT hire someone based on the answer to that question.]

[MonkParticipant 16978]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

I think that if cheating was suspected, the easy thing to do is have the company give her the test again as opposed to just subjectively declaring she cheated.

Appeal to the female ego. Tell her that she’s a genius, and that you just need to confirm the score.

Anonymous wrote:

It should be a permissible question on all job applications: “Have you ever retained a lawyer to bring a legal suit against anyone? (If you answer “YES” please explain below)”

I have actually seen this, and variants of it, on application forms.

[BoarParticipant]

It is not about the score. This about her entitlement to being beyond reproach.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

The thing is cheating on the SAT it will come to light real quick when she can not do the work at the next level. The crime will be in her getting a position that should have gone to someone else, along with the finical help.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

743 roadmaster wrote:

The thing is cheating on the SAT it will come to light real quick when she can not do the work at the next level. The crime will be in her getting a position that should have gone to someone else, along with the finical help.

It will get ignored. Gender and race requirements dictate that if she starts to fail they will try to sweep it under the rug. Essentially she will continue to fail upward.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[narwhalParticipant]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

mean she could have studied a lot of prep books that help increase your odds of guessing questionsthat you don’t know using multiple strategies. I still have those books from the years I took the tests. Just knowing these strategies would increase the number of right answers she would get on questions she didn’t know.

This. It’s been decades since I took the SAT, but it definitely seemed like preparedness was a key factory in your score. 300 points seems like a big jump, but I can believe going in having no idea what to expect, with little sleep, etc, vs being as ready as possible can make a difference.

That said, SAT is pretty stupid for accusing anyone of cheating because of score jump. At least, don’t word it that way. Just right it into your guidelines and such that any score change over 200 (or whatever) will randomly be asked to retake the test in order or make sure the test remains valid.

Also, hasn’t the SAT been accused of being racist in the past? Meaning that the questions are geared towards things Caucasians would understand, because they are in the context of white culture, while blacks and other minorities do not. I would be surprised if this girl isn’t claiming this on some level. And I don’t blame her for not wanting to retake the test. I wouldn’t want to either. It’s like double jeopardy. And this isn’t a minor deal to her. I’m sure school admission and thousands of dollars in scholarship money are on the line. And we all know damn well that her path to success is in playing the race card, not in actual academic achievements.

As for people who accuse you of cheating being upset that they can’t prove you cheated, I can understand that too. It makes you look bad, and you get no vindication. As well, it questions whether you can really tell whether someone was cheating or not. Or if the guy/girl is cheating and you have no idea how, can’t prove it. Accusing someone of cheating and being right about just feels better for you all around.

As far as the morality of cheating, I’m mixed. Yes, you don’t want to be the guy who graduated, but can’t read. Nor is being deceptive about it all. However, real life is about getting s~~~ done without artificial rules. It’s sometimes better to be the guy that can get people to work for him then be the guy that can do all the work himself.

Ok. Then do it.

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