chances mgtow blows into something huge?

[singledad984Participant 201]

Do u think mgtow will ever blow up into something that the majority of men claim to be? Seems like everyday more and more men are tired of females s~~~! And if it does go mainstream how long do u think it will take?

[Anonymous 1]

I hope it become mainstream and be a big thing, but sadly I don’t see it happening anytime soon.  I don’t even know any MGTOW in my personal life.  I talked about MGTOW with co-workers and they always tell me that I am going to change my mind.  I can’t seem to get anything across to them. They always tell me to wait for the “right girl and you will change your mind”. This is a never ending talk for me at work.  I should keep MGTOW to myself at work but can’t help it sometime.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I want you to do the following

1.  Listen to this youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySMVtRmQl1Y&feature=youtu.be

2.  Ask yourself how relevant and accurate you believe the video to be.

3.  Look at the count of the number of views of the video.

4. Look at the date of upload of the video.

5.  Answer your own question.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

chances of MGTOW blowing into something huge are about the same as chances of real 911 perpetrators ever going to prison.

MGTOW is as fringe and as frowned upon, as 911 truther movement. Everyone hates us because we are speaking the inconvenient truth

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 5]

It’s true. In a traditional society men have always been a resource to supply protein, build and protect.
Our value has always been our output.
There was always some sort of balance but with technological advances our output (money) is still just as valued but a female’s input (apart from sex) has diminished.
All the traditional monogamous relationship offers a guy now, is sex, which could lead to pregnancy which legally results in deeper financial ownership of the male’s resource.
He doesn’t mention it in the video but females will now skip the “togetherness” part by just getting pregnant to secure a male’s output.

Modern women at every political level have been indoctrinated to think all domestic work for a man is demeaning.
Any guy who lives as a bachelor knows that cooking, shopping, cleaning etc for yourself is surprisingly easy, virtually enjoyable. Or you can get a maid in a couple of hours per week to do 90% of it.

The remnant psychological desire for love is still there but when you look back at your own relationships and those still around you, you’ll realise the lure of love is just an illusion that females use to secure you. (an illusion they believe is true when they’re securing you)

However, will this obvious reality become transparent to the masses? I hope not!
The reality is, the bigger MGTOW gets, the more it will be penalized.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

MGTOW in name? Probably never.

MGTOW in action? It’s already happened.

Something like three out of four under 30 men have never been married and are extremely unlikely to ever marry. So while they may not talk the talk, they are definitely walking the walk, and walking where it counts: away. And that number is growing. Unconcerned bachelors are becoming an economic force to be reckoned with, and we are already seeing the effects in marketing and panicked legislation.

Call it MGTOW, or the Sexodus, or Grass Eating Men, or Marriage Strike, or the Man Drought, or whatever, it’s huge, it’s here, it’s the majority, and it has economists s~~~ting their pants and buying farms in the woods and stocking them with canned beans and guns.

[Executor MaxwellParticipant 591]

MGTOW is a phenomenon in a phenomenon.

I will refer top the outer phenomenon as Opt-out culture.

MGTOW involves a certain direct acknowledgment/awareness of the conditions we are in, a sort of looking straight in to the gynocentric abyss an acknowledging it for what it is. While MGTOW is becoming a rapidly growing <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>phenomenon  their is a bit of constraint that most people don’t like looking at things this hard or </span>changing<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> there world view. I </span>expect<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> every effort will be made to keep </span>knowledge<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> of MGTOW </span>suppressed from being heard of<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> in younger </span>academia. k-12 as it would rapidly become uncontainable if it started to spread in that environment. <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>MGTOW is a </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>self-aware and self named </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>phenomenon.</span>

<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>Opt-out culture while certainly not the majority yet here </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>(by here I’m </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>loosely</span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> grouping </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>Canada, Australia, USA and England</span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>) it</span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> is already </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>expanding</span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> at a down right explosive rate. I would liken are (MGTOW’s) closest brethren the Grass Eating/Herbivore Men to being more like Opt-out culture in origin. There phenomena was growing rapidly but their detonation of really explosive growth was being labeled by the Japaneses government. It was intended to shame them back in to line but instead they just accepted the label and public awareness made it a know idea to more younger men. They are already facing catastrophic proportions of their young men going </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>Grass Eating/Herbivore.</span>

<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>Here</span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> the governments have avoided a more direct response thus far and have just bitten around the edges of whats going on. Opt-out culture has been expanding rapidly on the backs of articles like The Sexodus, Where have All The Good Men Gone, The Marriage Strike, Child adult or what ever else they call it. But much in the same way we as MGTOW generally have the sense of “oh good it’s not just me” when finding MGTOW these </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>articles, even the ones intended to shame men back in line are </span>actually<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> providing the same </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>”oh good it’s not just me” </span>reinforcement<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> to the men engaging in Opt-out culture. In fact it’s the </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>reinforcement</span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”> is </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>probably even more significant for them because it’s something they can just passively go along with and feel a sense of they’re doing just as well as anyone else so it’s ok. With that the lack of direct government codification is only slowing the expansion of </span><span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>Opt-out culture.</span>

[chirParticipant]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

I want you to do the following 1. Listen to this youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySMVtRmQl1Y&feature=youtu.be 2. Ask yourself how relevant and accurate you believe the video to be. 3. Look at the count of the number of views of the video. 4. Look at the date of upload of the video. 5. Answer your own question.

Good video, but its not just sex.  Its children, men want to be fathers.   Yes it is genetic.  If I had not realized through personal experience and observation that women use children as weapons to extract money from men and then deny men the right to care for their children, I would have wanted children.   However I had to make a hard choice and until the justice system give men back their rights to raise their children, I couldn’t bear to have a child only to have them taken away from me if the woman decides to.

So is MGTOW going to blow into something huge.  Already is.  Many men are already MGTOW, they just don’t realize it yet, but more and more men are searching the internet.  Eventually they will wind up here.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[EekParticipant 1162]

One analogy I recently thought up was society is like a litter you would see in some historical movie. Up on top of the litter is some entitled princess riding around through the streets with a group of guys carrying her.

In this analogy the people going along for the ride are the non-producers in society. Government, retirees on Social Security, welfare recipients, etc. Add to that, more people now just want to go along for the ride instead of everyone sharing the load. Feminism has successfully sold single mothers the idea that they just need to get knocked up and on child support and they can get a free ride as well. Government supports this because they don’t want to get down and help carry the load too.

It doesn’t take too many guys asking the question “Why am I carrying these lazy f~~~s around? Im outta here” and walking off before the entitled princess is taking a dive into the dirt.

MGTOW doesn’t need to be even a significant minority before either people will see the problems coming, and help carry the load of society. Or people going for a ride take a spill into the dirt. By that time we won’t care, because we will have gone our own way.

[singledad984Participant 201]

Thanks for the video! One thing I’d like to point out in the video that I believe is very spot on! Is the comment about pretty much women only want a man who can offer them something! When I was married I had a great job and made great money just like I do now! I even provided for 2 kids who weren’t even mine! My wife had twin boys from a previous relationship! My marriage ended bc my wife started partying everynight trying to make up for the “college life” she missed out on since she got pregnant with the twins during high school. And when I found out she was cheating on me I filed for divorce. Not sure I’d call it cheating as much as I’d call it good ol’ fashion sleeping around! I desperately tried to work our marriage out bc i did love her! Every time id try to talk to her about it she just say “their is nothi g wrong with what im doing and im doing it whether u like it or not”! My wife didnt fight for our marriage bc she wanted me to divorce her so she could be free to party and sleep with whomever she wanted without having anyone to answer to. Her idea was like well either he will stay with me and take care of me or he will divorce me and have to pay me $1200 a month in child support so either way he will be taking care of me! Well i live in a small town in texas population 2000. The judge in our town is an older man whom is VERY conservative and VERY traditional! So when we went to get our temporary orders from the judge and he seen her lifestyle he ordered that I would be primary and she would pay me child support! That night she calls me crying saying she feels so bad for everything she has done and has decided she now wants to work it out! And that’s when I realized she doesn’t love me! She loves what I can PROVIDE  for her! Which was a life of me working 84 hours a week while she sat on her ass watching the cooking channel all day! So I said no I’m not taking care of ur ass anymore! The final orders in the divorce ended the same as the temporary orders! I got the house that’s completely paid off and everything that was in it! And most importantly I got a beautiful little girl! But my point is I wanted to work out our marriage even after finding out she was cheating on me! She didn’t want to work it out until the judge took her cash cow away!!

[Big Viking Chef BVCParticipant 1286]

Great story and a good lesson, Singledad.  Lucky to get a sympathetic judge too.  Good lesson about women and love.

Many women are the same:  Men fall in love with women, and women fall in love with shoes.

BVC

 

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.

[ByronParticipant 465]

singledad984 – hey mate! I can’t believe how cold hearted and calculating that bitch (no offence) was! This story is really riling me up. I’m really glad it had a happy ending, though!

Actually I’d recommend reading this book – THE MANIPULATED MAN (https://www.scribd.com/read/246124532/The-Manipulated-Man). It’s written 1971 but is still very, very relevant and revealing in regards to the true women’s character (and is written by a woman!). There are incredible revelations inside that will open your eyes even further.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

I believe that MGTOW right now is on the cusp of larger public recognition. I went from never hearing about MGTOW five months ago to now seeing it being talked about all over. Everyday we get another man in his late 30’s or early 40’s on here after his divorce. We are also getting plenty of men ages 20-25 that are taking the red pill. Interestingly I pointed out that these are the most proliferate ages of women on dating sites (specifically Plenty of Fish), so from this observation MGTOW is starting to have impact.

I’ve been MGTOW for 15 years but only four months ago did I label myself as such. There are plenty of men out there that either are MGTOW and don’t realize it yet.

[experiencedParticipant]

NAJALT not all judges are like that.

Jump into a shredder, one gives a great massage.

Nice post, I mean that sincerely. Sorry you went through hell due to not having been MGTOW.

 

 

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Anonymous 11]

MGTOW is the best thing that ever happened to all of us. We have freed ourselves from a horrible bondage. Mgtow.com has let us know we’re not alone which has done so much good for us.

I’m a skeptic by nature. I would simply love to see 90% of all men go MGTOW. Now, for the bad news. MGTOW is a serious threat to the present gynocentric order. It will be attacked from every angle possible. Once MGTOW breaks big, we can expect legal, cultural and media attacks on MGTOW on all fronts. I can see the next Bond movie villain being cast as an evil MGTOW Fort Knox robbing terrorist. MGTOW extends to all aspects in my life. I know we focus on women primarily, but MGTOW is my entire way of life now.

I am a highly extroverted man who knows a lot of people. I mainly see White Knights, SIMPS, manginas and pussy beggars out there. The attraction to pussy and White Knighting is so highly embedded in our culture and evolutionary heritage that it is impossible for many men to overcome it. I know 2 true red pillers outside of myself in real meat space.

In my opinion, it will continue to grow with little attention until the gynocracy determines that it becomes a real threat then it will be savagely attacked on all fronts but will continue to grow. We’re in a struggle against the establishment’s calculated abuse of men. We are simply not welcome at the table.

However, I don’t care how the gynocracy responds as caring about what others thought about me is what eventually turned me into a MGHOW.

[Not a MG╠OWParticipant 17]

iirc 70% if young men in Japan are already MGTOWs. The movement is slowly growing in the west and 10 years from now it will be HUGE. Women didn’t want marriage anyway, they prefer serial monogamy. As women take over, man’s civilization will be brought down significantly. Eventually this whole gender equality and women’s rights thing will go.

 

We will realize once again that women have been given great power in the form of falseity by nature and they need to be oppressed because they are destructive and chaotic. Do you really think a European and American collapse isn’t coming? Will they really be able to rise out of this ever-worsening crisis? Women should never have been allowed to work.

[Anonymous 42]

Russky wrote:

Everyone hates us because we are speaking the inconvenient truth

We’re speaking the hostile truth! We’re only messengers, we ran from deep in the forest of feminism yelling forest fire as we seek shelter in the open field, hence our attitudes of let it burn is only natural in the face of ignorant opposition. Perhaps when they actually feel the heat, smell the smoke, and see the flames, will they turn from us and start extinguishing the flames of feminism. But till then, I’m relaxed in my lounge chair, with ice tea in one hand, and a sandwich in the other, saying; LTMFB!

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

It may not become massive under the MGTOW banner, but I believe it is inevitable that more and more men will opt out of the current system either by necessity or because they are just sick of it. We have no reason to support a society that marginalizes us at every turn.

Men create and sustain civilizations. When men no longer desire to sustain a civilization the downfall will come eventually.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

It may not become massive under the MGTOW banner, but I believe it is inevitable that more and more men will opt out of the current system either by necessity or because they are just sick of it.

Quite right there ChaosOverAll, and as far as I’m concerned that is the very foundation for MGTOW awareness itself, partly because it already is more widespread than MGTOW itself. I mean by now, just who in their right mind would still believe that this current system as it is right now is going to improve for anybody below the richest 5% of the world’s population anytime soon, come on…? And because of this, some years even before MGTOW became a bit better known as of late (remember the levels: level 4 to 5 meaning yet furthermore opting out of society as a whole…) and therefore being the sort of “hard core foundation” of the MGTOW philosophy, opting out of the system and go like “F~~~ you, smug big companies with your selfish perpetual sick economic growth interests, I’m doing my own thing…” has already kicked in a few years back. There simply won’t be any other way for humanity to evolve or for any significant change but through economic collapse first, let’s face it and let’s not fool ourselves there, gentlemen, no matter how hard politicians are trying their best to convince us or make us believe otherwise…

In recent years I’ve done a lot and quite enough of research on the net about organized crime, world wide connected mafia structures within the “good” globalized economy in conjunction with drug and human slave traffics and or money laundry on such a scale, that it could soon enough easily outweigh the power of all conventional world government powers, undermine big companies and thus gain an overall global power that could make any secret societies mentioned by countless believers in conspiracy theories look like a petty bunch of “church choir boys”…  Until about two years ago I was still politically active to try hard to counteract this, but lately ever since I am here, now just like most of us (ie.: Tower, hello pal…!) meanwhile I am rather sick and tired of taking any responsibility myself with regards to preventing something of such an overwhelming inevitablity to happen and rather sit back and watch the whole s~~~ crumble to dust from afar (if possible) whilst trying to make it or bear it financially for long as possible and maybe also support our awareness phenomenon quite a bit or as best as I can to grip hold further along the way…

That’s it, I’m done.

 

Ned T.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Eek wrote:

It doesn’t take too many guys asking the question “Why am I carrying these lazy f~~~s around? Im outta here” and walking off before the entitled princess is taking a dive into the dirt.

And of course for every guy that leaves, the load is all that much heavier on the remaining schmucks, encouraging more of them to leave as well.  It’s a cascading failure, and it’s already happening.

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