Chameleon at Work

[SMADParticipant 651]

Greetings All,

So I recently started a new role in a major company (few months in) and it seems that my engineering team is actually 3 women.

Now, bizarre as it sounds but they actually all seem to be sound as f~~~. It’s interesting because although they are “feminists” they don’t seem to be the radical types you see screeching on YouTube.

However, I have adopted a some what “chameleon” approach to my situation. I have been quite open about not having relationships with women, but without being nasty about it. I just make a big deal about my nerdy hobbies and how I prefer doing them. When asked about my weekend, I don’t tell them about any “adventures” I may have, I just tell them how excited I am about writing my journal article, or how one of my research ideas are coming along.

I also said to them that because I enjoy my own company, I do have some personal boundary issues and would appreciate if the don’t “loom” over me or get too close. I make it fun and light-hearted of course and they respect it.

So on one hand, I do feel I am “selling out” a little bit by “befriending” the womenfolk, but on the other, this seems to be a worthy “workplace” survival approach, hence why I am writing this for any other MGTOW here that may end up in a similar situation. I think if I started spouting how s~~~ women are, etc, I would be in a world of trouble, but when they say things like “oh, you will meet the right girl one day” I just respond with things like “yeah, one day it will happen but I am happy to wait for the right one…”

Seems to appease them.

Is anyone else a “work place chameleon?” , particularly in a STEM environment?

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[AwakenedParticipant 35214]

You are NOT a Chameleon.

Women are Chameleons, and THEY ARE DAMN Good at it !!

You are merely GHOSTING, and that is the ONLY way to “survive” at Work within the confines of the hostile matrix !!

NEVER Attempt to tell them ANYTHING ABOUT YOU OR BEING MGTOW ETC.

THEY will NEVER Understand, and will go out of THEIR WAY TO DESTROY YOU !!

KEEP GHOSTING, You have NOTHING to GAIN by Confiding Anything in ANY of THEM !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

: “How was your weekend??”

: “It’s unprofessional to discuss anything, other than work, in the workplace.”

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

SMAD wrote:

I just make a big deal about my nerdy hobbies and how I prefer doing them.

That seems like your best approach if you have to converse with them about non work stuff. It’s a good repellent and will become your reputation.. Like me.. I’m the drone guy.. cause I always talk about flying drones..

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[xanthineParticipant 4903]

I work mostly with women, and most of my customers are women.

For the most part, i never discuss my personal life or opinions and do not engage them about theirs. This is probably the best policy if you want to keep your job.

IF YOU are backed into a corner, all you have to say is “i haven’t met the right woman” and leave it at that. Vague, terse statements like that can save your ass, make sure you practice them so they roll right off the tongue. You don’t have to go into detail about your desire to avoid women, and doing so in a workplace environment consisting of three feminist women WILL cause problems at some point, no matter how sound they seem. There is nothing to gain from it either, so it is a very big risk and no reward if you do choose to engage. Remember, AWALT.

The best policy when dealing with women is to avoid them as much as possible. Keep discussions strictly related to work. It does not take much to trigger feminists or women in general. Consider them a giant, emotional, ticking time bomb. All it takes is one of them having a bad day and one off hand comment from you to lose your job or worse.

My friend, you are playing with fire…and eventually, you WILL get burned if you do not heed our warnings.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22559]

Mgtow doesnt mean being an asshole to people,,or not getting along with others. I dont see why you should feel like you are selling out. Further,it is work, you have zippo control over workmates, and there is no need to intentionally cause problems between workmates.

Mgtow are goo guys and we are not feminists angry at the world, hating all men, and always looking for some way to be offended. We dont act poorly towards anyone. If anything we at least treat people as they seem to deserve.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Smart guy. That’s the way to handle it.

[JVBParticipant]

Nope. I think you’re playing the game well. Carry on bro

Peace is > piece.

[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

You’re doing a fine job at being stealth, blending in. It’s a great way to survive in the workplace. Maybe the only way to survive it.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Yes, I also work in the prairie dog farm doing engineering stuff. Been doing it since 1985.

Been to HR about 5 times in just over my 30 year career. Every single time because of a women alleging some type of butt hurt.

The big thing I’ve learned is, do not bite when they are complaining about how UNFAIR xyz is.

If they say it isn’t fair that they aren’t being paid enough or getting a raise or whatever, turn and walk away. Or, get out of your seat and walk away. Go directly to the men’s room so you have plausible deniability.

Trust me. In over thirty years of working around women one fact will always remain. Sooner or later they will bitch about how UNFAIR xyz is. Wait, wait, wait for it….

It will come. Trust me. Don’t let your guard down.

They are watching and comparing. If you get one thing more or someone else gets one thing more, as sure as the sun will set tomorrow, the hate will begin. The resentment will surface. Wait for it.

AWALT

My advice is simple. You should treat/approach/react to each woman at work as if she was the devil. How would you be around a devil? Act as if you are, because you are.

Peace brothers

[PhilandryParticipant 538]

You seem to have a handle on the situation, well done.

My only advice is to never let your guard down.

Be aware of their individual ambitions.

Stay icy, stay in control.

Being a man is incredible good luck. Do not waste it on the unlucky.

[BoarParticipant]

Boundaries man, boundaries. At work, I do not give any details about my personal life or interests. None. Zip. They share with me all the time, but I do not reciprocate. Every piece of information you give them is just oxygen for the inferno. Don’t give them a chance to breathe.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Another thing.

If you get called into your bosses office and your boss starts to discuss how important xyz women is. Or, how much she does, or, anything relating to anything regarding any women in your group.

BEWARE, danger Will Robinson, danger, danger.

This is a sure sign that YOU sitting there is NO accident!

WOMEN never confront directly. They go to the authority to complain on you!

One instance was when I expected the woman in our group to refill the printer when it ran out of paper. She had the KEY to the locked cabinet and was what was once called the office secretary.

You guessed it. She went to the boss. I was listening to the boss tell me how valuable she was, etc.

Everything is personal to a c~~~. Everything. They are down trodden.

The key is to understand their passive aggressive manipulative behavior. The sooner you know that you p~~~ed one off, the better.

Just because you FEEL like everything is fine, it doesn’t mean that one is not fuming about what a miserable piece of s~~~ you are. You will never know until the knife is in. Just because she smiles at you it doesn’t mean you and her are fine. I can’t emphasise this enough. You have to experience it.

If you get called into THE office of any authority figure always assume that a c~~~ is upset. Listen. Soon enough you will hear how so and so is very important. Ding, ding, dong

Peace brothers

[GregB0Participant]

Great post and thanks for sharing this situation and your resolution.

Many members are either in your position or will be soon. Having this example is timely and will probably save them so time with HR.

Fantastic example of real life experience directly applicable to men today and the future.

Hopefully more posts like this are forthcoming from other members.

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[SMADParticipant 651]

Morning everyone,

Thanks for your thoughts and input here. Definitely passed the “red pill rage” sometime ago and have gone beyond disliking women. Let’s face it, women are everywhere and complete avoidance is difficult, nigh on impossible. In my work cell there are the three women, but to be fair, the rest of the department office is 80+ men and most are ex military like myself, so can be quite the bantering arena anyway.

In terms of hierarchy, I am quite fortunate. Whilst my immediate boss is female (and a few years younger, but that’s OK as she has been with company 10 years and is actually very good at her job tbh), the boss above her (and therefore next tier up in my line management, which is quite high up anyway) is a fellow member of a Fraternity so there is that defence line too.

An additional thought occurred to me as well about working with women: it’s a very useful inside info on the workings of the hive mind and as work companions they are OK. The very small amount of social interaction that I “require” is actually satisfied by simply going to work and I don’t have to “date” them or any of that s~~~. Maybe I have just got really lucky?

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

I am in this exact situation right now! I mean the EXACT same.

I am playing it the same way. Be cool, but not personal. I feel like a Blue Pill mangina at work, but it is survival. The hive is alive and I just lay low. Keeping my mouth shut and collecting that paycheck.

Good job and good topic brother.

[SMADParticipant 651]

MarketWatcher wrote:

I feel like a Blue Pill mangina at work, but it is survival

Oh yes, this resonates with me too. At work, I play along as the really “nice but nerdy” guy who has zero threat level to anyone. I deliberately make it a point to sometimes by shy to email / get in touch with another engineer to try and “push” them to get something done and add it to my “objectives of development” to try and be a bit more assertive…

Little do they know that underneath that mildly awkward “nice guy persona” is a stone cold, ruthless, calculating machine that knows exactly what he is doing. I am not interested in going up any higher in the “management” level of things as they all do crazy overtime and huge extra levels of responsibility that I am simply not interested in. I am at a nice level of fantastic salary, but don’t manage anyone, but have enough work that is challenging enough to keep my engineering mindset ticking over.

Because I have no interest in climbing the corporate ladder, I am no threat to the others who are burning themselves out trying to get promoted. They are playing the corporate game with me, trying to look awesome and highly skilled and stressing out, except I am not returning any moves. It’s like they are playing Chess with themselves and balancing marriages and kids with their work life.

Me? I put 80% of my monthly salary into savings, building up that deposit and eventual cash pot to buy a house outright with no mortgage. At this rate, I can achieve that in 4 years time.

Smug Level 1000. ENGAGE!

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

OP – I work in a very technical environment as well. Statistically most of the women there do a poorer job than the men in the same positions. I just keep my distance. Women get curious and are always looking for someone who has more money than they do, and they frequently are all too willing to sleep their way into a promotion. (They pimp themselves out).

Usually when a woman is being friendly: she wants something in return, like help with her work, or fixing a leaking faucet at home, or something. If they are excessively friendly it means they are gunning to entrap a guy with the end goal of marriage and then divorce. (ie. they are gunning for his money, house, pension, etc).

It’s far easier to for a woman to spread her legs and make money than to study for an STEM degree and work her ass off, and spend years of saving and investing, and women know it.

Women want to take the easy way to financial success.

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