CBS News tries to explain Mgtow "problem" but ends up explaining hypergamy

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Stargazer wrote:

I was asked recently by a 28 year old overweight Trump hating single mother how it is that I got to be in my late 40s without ever getting married.

“A couple of good decisions and a lot of dodged bullets.”

“Seriously, nobody wanted you? It’s weird that you’re that old and have never been in a serious relationship.”

“Okay, the flip answer here is ‘I prefer fun relationships over serious ones.’ but if you want the honest answer, here it is.

When I was young I wanted a relationship. I wanted one desperately. I believed in love and I wanted to experience it. I wanted to find a beautiful young woman who I could protect and provide for who would love and appreciate me in return. I imagined we’d spend a few years getting to really know each other, travel the world together, have wonderful experiences, start a business, buy a home, settle down, start a family and grow old together. I wanted this more than anything in the world.

The problem was none of the girls I ever met wanted that. Oh, they all wanted me to promise I wouldn’t look at other girls, but half of them really just wanted to pin me down so that they could wear sweat pants and sit on the couch and get fat while the other half wanted me to commit to them so they could have my stuff while they f~~~ed other guys behind my back.

Nobody wanted what I wanted… to be an equal partner in a powerful, dynamic and meaning-filled relationship.”

“Uh…”

“So I went and did all those things on my own. I brought a girl along for this part or that for a few months or even a year or two along the way, but none of them could keep up so I had to let them go.

And now that I’ve achieved all those things, oh yes I have women wanting to settle down with me. But I don’t want that any more… and I certainly don’t want them. Now that I’ve put in all the effort, there’s nothing left for them to do but enjoy the benefits. Now if I want to take a two week trip overseas, I’ll just meet a girl when I get to Iceland or Tokyo or wherever and spend as much or as little time and energy with her as feel like. And I don’t have to pay her airfare, drag her around the countryside, buy her meals, listen to her complain or put up with her treating me like she’s doing ME a favor by just being there.”

“I see.”

“Bottom line: When I didn’t have anything to offer to attractive young women like you used to be, none of you wanted me. Now that I’ve spent my life achieving what we were supposed to build together while you f~~~ed around and had fun, suddenly you’re interested in what I’ve got. But instead of humbly asking if you can have some of what I’ve built… being appreciative that I’m even willing to talk to you… you’re going to shame ME for being single?

Believe me, I’d rather spend the rest of my life alone then pile up everything I own and burn it to ash than let someone like you ever get a hand on it.”

Why men aren’t getting married indeed. Maybe they should do a special on the question “Why WOULD any man EVER get married?”

Doccccccc!!!!!!!!

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25019]

I was raised in a different generation. I am now 56 and so was born in 1960. By 1980 the policy’s of the 60’s were just being put in place.

I was raised with the old notions and the world around me changed radically. In my own mind I think that my childhood life and dreams were the real ones.

I was raised to think of marriage as a partnership of equals. In my first marriage I negotiated for a fair living arrangement. She never agreed with anything and liked to make our lives hell. She had chronic depression and liked to spread it around.

She spent money, that was her part of the partnership. She had a college degree and worked for 2 years before we got married.

The minute we were married she never worked again and spent all of her time laying on the couch, groaning.

I would have never left that relationship if she didn’t kick me out. In the generation I was raised in a man married and his commitment was very real.

In my second marriage I had learned stuff. I thought, she will win so…happy wife happy life but always, always keep your eye on her for signs she’s unhappy because when she leaves there will be no warning. It was 1994 and marriage was blood thirsty.

It’s even worse today.

Men are 20 years behind women. That’s nothing on the scale of history.

Thanks feminism, thanks for the keys to the plantation gates.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[bladeParticipant]

Jobs lol . No woman are f~~~ing c~~~s

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

Thanks feminism, thanks for the keys to the plantation gates.

this^

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Doc-

Bravo. Well said.
Women see MGTOW as a problem.
Men see MGTOW as the best damn decision they ever made.

Marriage is a contract, tilted heavily to favor women.

I already lost a good deal of money in one such contract. Yeah, I can’t afford “love” anymore.

And see how long “love” lasts if you lose your job. See how long “love” lasts if your loving spouse meets a Chad.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Yeah, I can’t afford “love” anymore.

And see how long “love” lasts if you lose your job. See how long “love” lasts if your loving spouse meets a Chad.

love is superficial

love is like santa clause. As you get older, you realize its fake. When you’re young, you want to believe that it is real.
This explains what i mean:

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MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Duke TogoParticipant 2664]

Mr. Spock wrote:

They definitely put the “BS” in CBS.

CBS… Clearly Bulls~~~.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Quell wrote:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-men-are-having-problems-getting-married/

As if.

Marriage itself is the problem.

Blue Skies wrote:

she calls men “commitment phobes”

And women are commitment incapable.

Four out of five divorces are initiated by women. The most common reason they give is “general dissatisfaction”, which isn’t even a real justification. Women are far more likely to cheat on their partners. And so on.

Why would any sane man make a commitment to a woman when women are incapable of keeping their commitments?

Tuneout wrote:

I think the media are trained to be that f~~~ing stupid,

They’re not being stupid. They are lying.

They are pushing a false narrative to promote a political and social agenda. They will NEVER admit that marriage itself is the problem.

[xenonParticipant 2007]

A man is smart indeed to be commitment phobic when the truth of womens collective inability to stay away from chads c~~~ is on public display everywhere you look.

CBS: Caught Bull S~~~ting. Again. Never expect the truth about important societal issues from these clowns. Stop paying for network TV and they just might go away or change their tune. Probably not, I am sure they are paid to say just what they do and to speak truth would be a career ending move.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12053]

Blue Skies wrote:

she calls men “commitment phobes”

my response:

why man up when women out?

Clearly the problem is that there are a lot of jerks who have a low income: women earning more than them invite them out for a dinner, and those jerks reject the women! 😀
They should teach men to accept invitations from women earning more than them! 😀

That’s irony…

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

Of the three variables at play where relationships are concerned (that being biology, culture, government), only two are dynamic (culture and government). Biology is the static variable, unless we progress in an evolutionary manner to create some kind of biological shift.

Cultural degradation and decadence, coupled with the abuse of government authority, is responsible for a lot of what we see as far as the breakdown of male/female relationships.

This is what I try to explain to the outsider, but most are still completely stuck on the notion that feminism is the only thing that needs to be solved.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Anonymous 1]

Doc for president.
I bet that skank hated your guts, women always hate the truth.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

that relationship if she didn’t kick me out. In the generation I was raised in a man married and his commitment was very real.

In my second marriage I had learned stuff. I thought, she will win so…happy wife happy life but always, always keep your eye on her for signs she’s unhappy because when she leaves there will be no warning. It was 1994 and marriage was blood thirsty.

It’s even worse today.

Men are 20 years behind women. That’s nothing on the scale of history.

Thanks feminism, thanks for the keys to the plantation gates.

That’s a f~~~ed story. Thank you for sharing. And you’re right, if that’s what you experience “back then”, now is much worse. Men are finally waking up and saying enough is enough.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

Of the three variables at play where relationships are concerned (that being biology, culture, government), only two are dynamic (culture and government). Biology is the static variable, unless we progress in an evolutionary manner to create some kind of biological shift.

Cultural degradation and decadence, coupled with the abuse of government authority, is responsible for a lot of what we see as far as the breakdown of male/female relationships.

This is what I try to explain to the outsider, but most are still completely stuck on the notion that feminism is the only thing that needs to be solved.

Yup, and that’s a hard pill to swallow. It’s how I found MGTOW. I saw more and more people being irrational. I was constantly looking for answers, and solutions I could enact to protect myself.

Gov/Media pushing a bizzaro world image. People just going a long with the crazy. The Gov/Media telling you when to get mad. What the most pressing concerns should be. Most of those things petty and unlikely to metastasize into chaos.

If had zero accountability, I could see us being just as blind and arrogant as the modern woman. We have a more developed sense of cause and effect.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Epic thread, gents. Big applause to DocF for that – and @Spock for pointing out the “BS” in CBS.

CBS (and all these media idiots on the topic) talk about “marriage” and “why men aren’t getting married”….. but they continually leave out the word “CONTRACT”.

The MARRIAGE CONTRACT.

You will never see them ask the REAL question “why aren’t men signing marriage contracts?”, because they already know the answer.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 5]

Marriage is a contract between you, the woman, and the state. After signing that contract, the state and the bitch merge, and form a single entity.

And that entity will be the death of you.

[narwhalParticipant]

Duke Togo wrote:

They’re not being stupid. They are lying.
They are pushing a false narrative to promote a political and social agenda. They will NEVER admit that marriage itself is the problem.

I can’t call it lying as in most cases, they believed their own lies. They don’t believe that women or the institution of marriage is the problem, so they just look for evidence that points to men, or the economy, or whatever is the problem and call it a day. They don’t want to consider the truth because of the tremendous negative consequences of doing so.

I’m not justifying their false statements, just that I don’t see it as simple as truth and lies.

Ok. Then do it.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

narwhal wrote:

I can’t call it lying as in most cases, they believed their own lies.

In the face of overwhelming objective evidence to the contrary?

They don’t believe that women or the institution of marriage is the problem

Only because they benefit from marriage.

so they just look for evidence that points to men, or the economy, or whatever is the problem and call it a day.

Which is them lying to themselves. That doesn’t make it not a lie.

There’s a huge difference between some cave man saying the world is flat from his limited perspective it looks flat and a “news” reporter saying “marriage is good for men” when he can see the men destroyed by marriage all around him.

It’s possible for someone to tell a lie so often that they, themselves start to believe it. They rationalize the inconsistencies with reality away with more and more lies.

But that cannot make it the truth.

It’s still lying. In fact it’s lying even more.

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

I turned it off after 36 seconds because she explained the exact reason why men aren’t marrying

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