Cargo van jobs

[Russky2Participant 3086]

Hey fellas,

I’ve been all over the place trying to figure out my job situation, and need some advice asap. Now I’m looking to start truck driving school as soon as in a week or so. But I saw two job ads. One offers up to 2k a week, but requires to have own van and is full time. The other one is contract job paying up to 15K a month, but also requires a van. Now this later one said they may qualify you for a lease program.

What should I do? Go for the school thing or take up either one of these jobs but invest in cargo van? These vans are pretty damn expensive. Anywhere between 10-27K

MGTOW AKBAR

[Crane CommanderParticipant 207]

I’d do the truck driving school. I did. Then I went to mobile crane outfits starting as a truck driver and worked my way up to a Crane Operator.

[HitmanParticipant]

i recommend school.
get the commercial licence ,
and you can go places with it !!!

[Anonymous 7]

I know it sux but the cargo van thing is the easy way.

Here is the thing, it is a really, really good idea to have employable skills that not every one has.

Any half-wit with a valid license and a clean record can buy a used van, not every one can drive a big rig.

If you have a special skill set, after you pay your dues and if you are good at it, people will PAY for that s~~~.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

Whatever you do, don’t ever get a DUI. That will kill a drivig career anywhere. I am pretty sure you knew that but it doesn’t hurt repeating, others considering that may not have fully realized how devastating just one would be. No second chances on that one.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

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Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Whatever you do, don’t ever get a DUI. That will kill a drivig career anywhere. I am pretty sure you knew that but it doesn’t hurt repeating, others considering that may not have fully realized how devastating just one would be. No second chances on that one.

I don’t drink at all. Quit pot after losing that s~~~ f~~~ing pot job. F~~~ all drugs and alcohol.

MGTOW AKBAR

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22503]

Russky2 wrote:

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Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Whatever you do, don’t ever get a DUI. That will kill a drivig career anywhere. I am pretty sure you knew that but it doesn’t hurt repeating, others considering that may not have fully realized how devastating just one would be. No second chances on that one.

I don’t drink at all. Quit pot after losing that s~~~ f~~~ing pot job. F~~~ all drugs and alcohol.

All that stuff also can get expensive too. On top of the other negatives.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[MusicianMGTOWParticipant 9]

Sounds like you may be looking at Dodge Sprinters – they’re still pricey. If its ok for the jobs, check out a Ford E-250; 2014 or before. They are WAY cheaper, cheap parts are available in junkyards, and lots of mechanics are familiar with them. You can get extended length and a high top if you look around online – I love mine. Its set up for touring w/ a bed, ceiling fan, shelves. Even a generator + removeable window AC setup.

That license sounds like a great short to medium term plan. You can do audiobooks while you drive and learn your next career. That job will eventually be replaced by AI/Robots, but there’s probably a strong need now.

Good Luck!

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I think most of those cargo van jobs is false advertising – they don’t pay that well. Not sure why would you need a commercial driver’s license to drive them, but I’m not in Canada.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

F~~~ I just want to get back to what I was doing. Meantime, looks like I will do some s~~~ jobs to get my self back on track. And Hopefully, back in school in California.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[GrumpyParticipant]

If you want to be a “professional” driver in Canada, be a “company driver”, then its their vehicles, their insurance, and their free advertising on their vehicles. You dont cover the depreciation of the vehicle nor the commercial carrier insurance costs which can magically affect your private auto insurance.
Also being a subcontracted owner operator leaves you liable when a delivery goes bad, and you have nothing to fall back on when they fire you because you are actually self employed.
Your nation wide drivers abstract has to be spotless AND you must be bondable.
These a few of the reasons I stopped driving class 1 (tractor trailer), and “lighter” delivery vehicles.
-edit-
For small delivery/panel vans (2.5 ton or less IIRC) you only need a non GDL Class 5 drivers permit, however you need commercial (aka business) insurance for the vehicle.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

Get the training and start working for a fleet company that assumes all of the expenses and the risk.
If you like what you’re doing, then you can decide if you want to take all of the knowledge you gained and invest in your own business, with all of it’s risks.

[Russky2Participant 3086]

MusicianMGTOW wrote:

Sounds like you may be looking at Dodge Sprinters – they’re still pricey. If its ok for the jobs, check out a Ford E-250; 2014 or before. They are WAY cheaper, cheap parts are available in junkyards, and lots of mechanics are familiar with them. You can get extended length and a high top if you look around online – I love mine. Its set up for touring w/ a bed, ceiling fan, shelves. Even a generator + removeable window AC setup.

That license sounds like a great short to medium term plan. You can do audiobooks while you drive and learn your next career. That job will eventually be replaced by AI/Robots, but there’s probably a strong need now.

Good Luck!

I wonder how long till that happens? Now some time ago I read a bunch of companies are trying to push self driving trucks in Canada by the end of 2018. Let’s assume that happens, then what will happen with drivers? All of these jobs will dissapear? Then school thing would have been a waste of time?

Grumpy wrote:

If you want to be a “professional” driver in Canada, be a “company driver”, then its their vehicles, their insurance, and their free advertising on their vehicles. You dont cover the depreciation of the vehicle nor the commercial carrier insurance costs which can magically affect your private auto insurance.
Also being a subcontracted owner operator leaves you liable when a delivery goes bad, and you have nothing to fall back on when they fire you because you are actually self employed.
Your nation wide drivers abstract has to be spotless AND you must be bondable.
These a few of the reasons I stopped driving class 1 (tractor trailer), and “lighter” delivery vehicles.
-edit-
For small delivery/panel vans (2.5 ton or less IIRC) you only need a non GDL Class 5 drivers permit, however you need commercial (aka business) insurance for the vehicle.

So it’s best to get some kind of commercial driver’s license to driver more than just cargo van? And not a great idea to buy your own rig to drive for someone else?

MGTOW AKBAR

[GrumpyParticipant]

@russky2
The following link is just for an introduction to each drivers permit, generally correct however it is not exhaustive nor should it be interpreted as “gospel” as each Province also has different statutes, interpretations, and insurance requirements.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driver%27s_licence_in_Canada
1. Class 1 – 4 are generally considered “commercial” or “professional” drivers licenses depending on type of and use of the vehicle driven.
2. A proper accredited/recognized and long established driving school is rarely a bad investment as they do both theory and practical instruction.
You must successfully pass they “yard work” before you can drive out of the yard.
3. Things required but not mentioned are DDC, SBC, Ramp Safety course, PDIC, Load safety and management, B.C Airbrake course (best one) due to mountain driving, and several other “minor” driver safety courses. Most if not all are usually part of a class 1 course or offered individually.

As for the automated self driving vehicles, unless BILLIONS upon BILLIONS more dollars are “invested” in updating the transportation infrastructure, adding roadway sensors, new satellites, updating GPS software, designated “automated” roadways, and a metric f~~~ton of other stuff to ensure public and environmental safety. Self driving vehicles should be contained to highly “controlled” areas only. So far most self driving automobile tests are not doing too well, even with a “live” driver present behind the wheel.
People, wildlife, and the environment are way to unpredictable to allow an “autonomous” machine with limited programming into the “wild”.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[GrumpyParticipant]

Russky2 wrote:

So it’s best to get some kind of commercial driver’s license to driver more than just cargo van? And not a great idea to buy your own rig to drive for someone else?

The short answer is yes.
Long gone are the days of buying/leasing a rig and hitting the road to earn.
Unless you can afford it financially, and have a long term back up plan.
For a better understanding of the current situation with the “transportation industry” for drivers just pop out to a Husky or some other truck stop, and talk to a variety of drivers

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

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