Can someone calculate this?

[ProjectParticipant 507]

Hi guys.

I don’t know if any of you have knowledge in investments. I wonder if someone would be able to make a calculation on the percent chance of success in this investment called “marriage”.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Project wrote:

“marriage”.

I will frequently correct and change anyone’s use of that word to “a marriage contract”. No matter what kind of social setting you’re in, talking about “marriage” is designed to sucker you into a silly endless loop. But mention “the CONTRACT”, and everybody shuts the f~~~ up on the spot.

It instantly de-romanticizes it, and is the virtual equivalent of ripping the bouquet out of her hand, stomping on it, and unzipping your fly and p~~~ing on her cake.

“So why are you not married?”

“A marriage contract fails a cost/benefit analysis for men.”

That conversation is now over, and she just f~~~ed herself into a corner.

Project wrote:

Can someone calculate this?

That’s THEIR job. Let them SELL it to you. Its’ fun to watch them try.

In this example, when she realizes she f~~~ed herself into a corner, she turns on the waterworks and starts crying. She should have shut her arrogant cakehole in the first place. This is the kind of silly endless loop you get into when discussing “marriage”…… but in real situations, when you mention “the contract”, she’s done.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Define “success”

[KeymasterKeymaster]

BritGHOW wrote:

Define “success”

They call a “successful” marriage one that doesn’t end in divorce.

But just because something didn’t fail… doesn’t mean it “worked”. Just because you didn’t crash your car on the way to Vegas, doesn’t mean you “had a good time”.

This one is still married after 16 years, and has a really big problem with how her own husband greets her ungrateful aging ass with a SMILE in the morning – just because she’s “not viable before 10AM”.

What a gargantuan failure.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ProjectParticipant 507]

Ok, let’s reformulate it okay? What about a marriage that doesn’t end in divorce?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Project wrote:

Ok, let’s reformulate it okay? What about a marriage that doesn’t end in divorce?

I just answered that above ^^ .

That’s hardly a reliable measure of “success”.

Seriously. Make THEM do the math. Asking men to outline the ROI (return on investment) in a “marriage” is only going to give you a blank page with no responses. This is a question for women when she says she “really wants a wedding”.

I have a friend who isn’t wealthy by any stretch who blew most of his LIFE SAVINGS on the wedding. $75K!!! He doesn’t even earn that in a year before taxes. Nobody on the planet will be able to rationalize that. Least of all his bride. There is no return on that investment because it’s not an “investment”. If he bought 60s Mustang for that money, then he would have a hope in hell that it would be worth more today.

Since SHE benefits from this… I would expect HER to calculate it.
She didn’t even say “let’s have $5K wedding and put the other $70K towards the mortgage”.

Even still, the best ROI a man can hope for is that she wont’ take 1/2 of it when she leaves.

Not being robbed of your assets and life’s work is not “success”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[JVBParticipant]

50%. 90% of the remaining 50 are miserable.

Peace is > piece.

[Anonymous 54]

If you consider alimony a good investment, yes.
Put everything you own in it!

[Anonymous 54]

Project wrote:

Ok, let’s reformulate it okay? What about a marriage that doesn’t end in divorce?

Cost about them same. Only your freedoms involed.
Tax Guy can do the real number crunching on it.

[WallyParticipant]

Hard to calculate, but here’s a small cross section, forgive me as I have mentioned this before but I was in a class about marriage (pre-red pill) with 30 men and I was the only non married man. Looking in their faces and hearing their words, 90-95% were unhappy. Yes they loved their wives and children but would not make the same choices. Even if you succeed and are in the 5-10 % you lose because you more than likely would have been even better off if you went MGTOW.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Look I have a much better investment—I own this bridge in Manhattan and you can own this piece of history for the amazing price of $10—today only so hurry!

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

PistolPete wrote:

Look I have a much better investment—I own this bridge in Manhattan and you can own this piece of history for the amazing price of $10—today only so hurry!

Yes! That still would be a better “investment” than marriage, in that the loss is ONLY a one-time loss of $10 and one still would have their freedom after paying it.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

JVB wrote:

50%. 90% of the remaining 50 are miserable.

90% is probably low balling it. I’m hard pressed to think of many 50+ year old guys who have been married once and once only and would recommend marriage to me as a younger guy when we are just talking man to man.

Most the people I know who think marriage is good are blue pill idiots who already have 1+ divorce under their belt or guys who are recently married and/or recently had a kid with the wife and have no idea they are sitting on the top of the hill right now and the only way to go from here is down. Its almost kind of comical how most 30ish year old guys I know think marriage is good “if you find the right woman” but most 40ish+ year old guys I know that thought they found the right woman don’t think marriage is all that good anymore lol.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

Well first off, a marriage is not an investment. In fact let’s look at what is an investment – it would be identified as any commodity, stock or item whose value can go up or down. That is in the most simple terms what an investment is.

Now let’s look at a marriage, from a man’s perspective. In most marriages you are effectively binding yourself to a single woman i.e. a single vagina. Now, in the past this made sense in terms of being able to be the master of your domain. That all pretty much ended with the no-fault divorce and the current anti-male divorce laws. Your kids, your home and your very dignity can be taken away. Plus, you are saddled with an ever aging woman who every year is losing her looks and all the while you have to perform your duties as a husband and need to provide for her never ending needs and wants.

I’d say this is no investment. Rather, it is akin to purchasing a car, the moment you drive it off the lot it loses about 15% of it’s value. That would mean that purchasing a car, like marriage is a liability.

[TriviumParticipant 1029]

If you want to see your money grow with a woman you better be prepared to tattoo it on your dick. Success in marriage is defined as getting out without having to pay half your s~~~ and still being tied to her financially or otherwise for the rest of your life after.

Marriage is like a new car. It loses value the second you drive it off the lot and soon becomes something expensive to maintain and inherently unreliable. Success is trading it in before it costs you too much. You’re never going to come out ahead.

"Listen to all, Follow none"

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